Society/Culture Bourke st incident ( again )

[Bradesmaen]

Its pretty hard to piss high when you do it sitting down.

Now we have a Sudanese man sexual assaulting a woman on a trainin Melbourne, do you support the policy that lets this trash in? Stronger vetting, less immigrants. Socialists are useless.

Ok if you are so smart, how to you propose to vet people for such offences? Are you going to ask him directly if he is going to assault anyone? Vetting to that degree is severely difficult, expensive and also not 100% accurate anyway.

 

[Carn The Berries]

Ok if you are so smart, how to you propose to vet people for such offences? Are you going to ask him directly if he is going to assault anyone? Vetting to that degree is severely difficult, expensive and also not 100% accurate anyway.

Whatever you do don't challenge his beliefs by having the temerity to ask a question!!! Apparently that offers nothing and doesn't solve any of our problems!

 

[Chubberson]

They know now in Europe that parallel societies don't work and the shift in the political landscape is evidence of that. Hungary, Slovenia, Italy, Austria all rejecting the EU immigration policy in some way or another, more countries will follow suit and I applaud it. Austria is shutting mosques down, its fantastic.

In answer to the vetting question, its simple, turn the boats around to where they came or fly them home. Same with all illegal immigration and cut the people intake quota by 70%. No vetting required. Exactly what Europe is starting to do. Except Merkel and Macron, the latter of the two who is globalist elite scum.

 

[Carn The Berries]

They know now in Europe that parallel societies don't work and the shift in the political landscape is evidence of that. Hungary, Slovenia, Italy, Austria all rejecting the EU immigration policy in some way or another, more countries will follow suit and I applaud it. Austria is shutting mosques down, its fantastic.

In answer to the vetting question, its simple, turn the boats around to where they came or fly them home. Same with all illegal immigration and cut the people intake quota by 70%. No vetting required. Exactly what Europe is starting to do. Except Merkel and Macron, the latter of the two who is globalist elite scum.

Shutting down mosques is fantastic??? You keep telling yourself you're not racist...

And before you go down that path, Islam may not be a race but muslims who practice Islam are.

 

[Strange Cat]

That is just ridiculous. The islamic faith is significantly more violent than any othe religion worldwide and islam refugees are nutcases. They dont deserve to be in Australia, full stop. Vote One Nation.

Why am I’m not shocked that you would vote for one nation

Racists are going to be racists

 

[Strange Cat]

It's pretty obvious without Islam there'd be no terrorism or killings in the name of Islam

You do realise that society has a long history of people in power using whatever justification for their atrocities

Blaming it solely on a religion that can be misinterpreted ( much like Christianity I.e Crusades) as the sole reason for deranged angry people hiding behind their religion to give them credibility for their violent acts is very naive and disgusting.

 

[its free real estate]

The Crusades were nearly 1000 years ago, if we’re citing that as something to let Islam off the hook for its deep cultural problems in the present moment then it says a lot about Islam.

 

[Strange Cat]

The Crusades were nearly 1000 years ago, if we’re citing that as something to let Islam off the hook for its deep cultural problems in the present moment then it says a lot about Islam.

Oh how about the Catholic Church condoning honosexualoty and advocating against the same sex law reform?

The bible told me they are evil!!

And if you want to talk about cultural issues don’t get me started on the presets /child abuse/ church policy to move them around

 

[Carn The Berries]

The Crusades were nearly 1000 years ago, if we’re citing that as something to let Islam off the hook for its deep cultural problems in the present moment then it says a lot about Islam.

Yet look at the way we can justify that Catholicism is still Ok despite the exposed ongoing mistreatment of children and covering up of crimes committed against them...

Should we ban Catholic priests (or anyone associated with the church for that matter) who want to come here from overseas?

 

[its free real estate]

Oh how about the Catholic Church condoning honosexualoty and advocating against the same sex law reform?

The bible told me they are evil!!

How about it?

Tell me again what happens to homosexuals in Saudi Arabia.

 

[its free real estate]

Yet look at the way we can justify that Catholicism is still Ok despite the exposed ongoing mistreatment of children and covering up of crimes committed against them...

Should we ban Catholic priests (or anyone associated with the church for that matter) who want to come here from overseas?

If it comes to that, yes.

Given the Catholic Church’s propensity to shift around paedo priests, there should extreme vetting on any coming into the country.

 

[Strange Cat]

How about it?

Tell me again what happens to homosexuals in Saudi Arabia.

If the Catholic Church had their way they would love to have control over a state too, thankfully in western society we can separate the church and politics (mostly)...it only took us hundred of years to do so I might add.

My point which you seem to fail to grasp is that humans will use any justifications for their actions, blaming it solely on a religion is naive to the extreme.

All religions have extemists that if given enough power will act out on their warped beliefs , where their religion is used to justify their behaviour.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

They know now in Europe that parallel societies don't work and the shift in the political landscape is evidence of that. Hungary, Slovenia, Italy, Austria all rejecting the EU immigration policy in some way or another, more countries will follow suit and I applaud it. Austria is shutting mosques down, its fantastic.

In answer to the vetting question, its simple, turn the boats around to where they came or fly them home. Same with all illegal immigration and cut the people intake quota by 70%. No vetting required. Exactly what Europe is starting to do. Except Merkel and Macron, the latter of the two who is globalist elite scum.

A question - even if immigration IS cut, Australia will still be a culturally diverse nation with many ethnic groups who look different from you, dress differently than you do and believe different things than you do.

How will you combat the existence of different ethnic groups already residing in Australia?

 

[RupieDupie]

Ok if you are so smart, how to you propose to vet people for such offences? Are you going to ask him directly if he is going to assault anyone? Vetting to that degree is severely difficult, expensive and also not 100% accurate anyway.

What a person would do is create something like a sieve of Eratosthenes. If a person moves past a certain level in a corrupt, vile, and deplorable system, they must also be corrupt and immoral - like everyone currently on top in The Liberal Party - no one could get to the top of that disgusting Party unless they are corrupted to the very core of their cold dead hearts.

Normal folk like you and I would be vomiting on day one with some of the s**t they would be willing to do to small fluffy animals to get to the next rung in the hierarchy. We’d be kicked out of the system on day one.

This is what ASIO could do to vet people; ask them to join The Liberal Party and count how many days they last.

 

[Bradesmaen]

They know now in Europe that parallel societies don't work and the shift in the political landscape is evidence of that. Hungary, Slovenia, Italy, Austria all rejecting the EU immigration policy in some way or another, more countries will follow suit and I applaud it. Austria is shutting mosques down, its fantastic.

In answer to the vetting question, its simple, turn the boats around to where they came or fly them home. Same with all illegal immigration and cut the people intake quota by 70%. No vetting required. Exactly what Europe is starting to do. Except Merkel and Macron, the latter of the two who is globalist elite scum.

So basically because one person might be a crook in the future, turn them around and deny them humanitarian need? Well, we should have never accepted those italians if you go by that. Ludicrous and racist point of view. Also a point of view with a lack of intelligence.

 

[Balls In]

So basically because one person might be a crook in the future, turn them around and deny them humanitarian need?.

When you say crook you mean mass murdering terrorist, yeah? So yes. Mass murdering terrorists can stick their humanitarian needs up their arse. And durastic immigration cuts to the demographic consistantly producing them for good measure.

 

[Bradesmaen]

When you say crook you mean mass murdering terrorist, yeah? So yes. Mass murdering terrorists can stick their humanitarian needs up their arse. And durastic immigration cuts to the demographic consistantly producing them for good measure.

A) We weren't talking about the terrorist, we were talking about his made up sexual assault story
B) You might want to look up the words you are using and their spelling. As well as their meaning. Consistently would imply there is a terrorist a month, barely that. What about the other criminals of non-african/muslim background? Are we going to stop importing them when they kill a few people? I do seem to recall some greek guy mowing down people on Burke street. No one said lets stop greek immigration.

Your lack of emotional control and intelligence on the matter is clear. Once again it;s all directed at a race and religion.. ever heard of cause and effect? you're the definition of it right now.

 

[nicky]

A) We weren't talking about the terrorist, we were talking about his made up sexual assault story.

 

[medusala]

And your solution for anglo-saxon wife beaters who either do irrevocable damage to their partners or ultimately kill them??

FFS not that stupidity again. One group can be stopped easily via not letting them in the country.

Hopeless straw man.

Ok if you are so smart, how to you propose to vet people for such offences? Are you going to ask him directly if he is going to assault anyone? Vetting to that degree is severely difficult, expensive and also not 100% accurate anyway.

Actually its notthat difficult at all. You trawl the refugee camps (ie real refugees with documents) and search for the well qualified sorts of which there will be quite a few. As for expensive, its way cheaper than Nauru (not to mention the obscene amounts wasted on the clogging of our legal system by appeals)

 

[medusala]

So basically because one person might be a crook in the future, turn them around and deny them humanitarian need? Well, we should have never accepted those italians if you go by that. Ludicrous and racist point of view. Also a point of view with a lack of intelligence.

Another hopeless stats fail.

 

[Carn The Berries]

FFS not that stupidity again. One group can be stopped easily via not letting them in the country.

Hopeless straw man.



Actually its notthat difficult at all. You trawl the refugee camps (ie real refugees with documents) and search for the well qualified sorts of which there will be quite a few. As for expensive, its way cheaper than Nauru (not to mention the obscene amounts wasted on the clogging of our legal system by appeals)

Oh dear, you've totally missed the entire point of what I'm trying to say... I was deliberately using a strawman to show how ridiculous it is to suggest banning immigrants from a particular country or of a particular race because a minority may commit a crime at some point in the future...

Sorry are you saying that well qualified sorts will be the ones committing crimes or they are the only who will commit crime?? Either way words cannot being to describe how dim that plan is...

 

[medusala]

Oh dear, you've totally missed the entire point of what I'm trying to say... I was deliberately using a strawman to show how ridiculous it is to suggest banning immigrants from a particular country or of a particular race because a minority may commit a crime at some point in the future....

Its not ridiculous at all. Why take unskilled, non english speaking migrants? No benefit to Australia, regardless of how much crime they commit (and they typically will be disproportionatley criminal).

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Sorry are you saying that well qualified sorts will be the ones committing crimes or they are the only who will commit crime?? Either way words cannot being to describe how dim that plan is...

No. Well qualified English speakers will be far LESS likely to commit crime as well as far more likely to get a good job.

Its an utter no brainer. The problem is they are far less likely to vote ALP

The ALP would far prefer to import potential terrorists because they know they are far more likely to vote for them than say a refugee who happens to be a doctor.

 

[Carn The Berries]

Its not ridiculous at all. Why take unskilled, non english speaking migrants? No benefit to Australia, regardless of how much crime they commit (and they typically will be disproportionatley criminal).

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No. Well qualified English speakers will be far LESS likely to commit crime as well as far more likely to get a good job.

Its an utter no brainer. The problem is they are far less likely to vote ALP

The ALP would far prefer to import potential terrorists because they know they are far more likely to vote for them than say a refugee who happens to be a doctor.

Did you make a stop at Bunnings on the way home? I'm not sure there is a broom big enough to make that much of a sweeping generalisation.... And your initial contention about stopping immigration of Sudanese/Muslims had absolutely SFA to do with their lack of skills or English. You were trying to imply that poorer skilled migrants are more likely to be terrorists (which you proceeded to re-state). You're just trying to now find another avenue to justify your generalist and racist views.

 

[Contra Mundum]

For God's sake Jeff - stop giving people a history lesson!! Anyone would think we have demonised every new wave of migrants that came along (even using the same words). https://www.theguardian.com/comment...XHNQKpvvPVB6oWeQ8M4woV5UPXsxDPnpm0EeSuZKJPXmQ

 

[smokingjacket]

For God's sake Jeff - stop giving people a history lesson!! Anyone would think we have demonised every new wave of migrants that came along (even using the same words). https://www.theguardian.com/comment...XHNQKpvvPVB6oWeQ8M4woV5UPXsxDPnpm0EeSuZKJPXmQ

Is it fair to condemn Australian society for holding views in 1950 that Northern Italians held then and still hold about Southern Italians today?