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Why even bother with a trade if you get pick 19 saints don’t have a lot to offer in terms of picks
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AgreeCouldn’t care less why compo Crows receive.
If Crouch stays he stays not the end of the world.
From reports he is happy to stay at Adelaide and his manager tried to secure a five year deal on decent coin at Adelaide.
One was not forthcoming or he would have never accepted the offer from St Kilda, so if it was me I would not be interested in playing for a club whose words may say that want me but their actions indicate otherwise.
If Adelaide really wanted him they would have put a suitable offer to him, if he gets one now it is nothing to do with them wanting him it is all about improving their draft position by five picks.
Strange that Crouch would even accept our deal though if that's the way it's going to go down.Agree
With Kelly advising of the crows position it's pretty clear it's either pick 2 or he stays
It is what it is
If im honest where we sit pick 2 would be better but if that's not possible keeping him would be the next best option
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If it was a trade then he would not be worth pick 2 possibly pick 15.Agree
With Kelly advising of the crows position it's pretty clear it's either pick 2 or he stays
It is what it is
If im honest where we sit pick 2 would be better but if that's not possible keeping him would be the next best option
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If the Crows match the Contract tabled by St Kilda ......yes they can then do a trade to the Saints ....but they can still then trade to another club as well ....the Contract terms have already been agreed to by the Crouch camp
The offers players get to move is irrelevant to their talent. It's about how in demand they are. Just off the top of my head:
Zac Williams is a B-grade player at best, and gets $900k?
McGovern >$700k for an average player who played a role in a good team.
Alex Keath>$700k for a B-grade 3rd defenderPLAYERCARDSTART42Alex Keath
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Jake Lever$800k (OMG!)PLAYERCARDSTART8Jake Lever
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you spelt billings wrongIf the Crows match, Dunstan and Webster in a straight swap seems like a fair deal
So did you, should be a capital Byou spelt billings wrong
sure they do, 2020 1st, 2021 1st, 2020 2nd..plenty of picks there and the crows will want a few of them. Why should St Kilda get the free hit of a quality mid and not have to adequately pay for it. It will cost Sty Kilda either pure salary or pick 15 and probably the 2021 2nd - they get to choose which oneWhy even bother with a trade if you get pick 19 saints don’t have a lot to offer in terms of picks
lets see what the deal is though first..it might be much larger than speculated and then it will be easy to see why he didStrange that Crouch would even accept our deal though if that's the way it's going to go down.
If you are a saints fan, you want this over and done with ASAP.Honestly I couldn't care less what pick Adelaide get.
I'd just be surprised if it does. It would have to mean there are other sneaky deals in the background and I'm not sure how that would go down.
Ahh, maybe you are right. The crows and St kilda have been sneaky and done a side deal - the crows let brad go for the band 2 compo. Then in a separate deal, St Kilda give pick 15 to the crows for Poholke and pick 83 ...could workYeah I get that, the players value is what the market is willing to pay.
Crouch could be a gun, but there’s too many ?’s around him, for a club to risk a 5yr $750k deal IMO. I’m sure you guys don’t really think he’s worth pick 2
ban 2 compo is still a pretty good deal, you could use it to help bring in another earlier 1st rounder this year or because you guys already have a very strong hand in this years draft, IMO the better option would be use it to try and get a future 1st for next years bumper crop, with some smart trading and good drafting, could rebuild the entire list in just two more drafts.
It will be over Friday if the offer is poor and not band 1he stays at the crowsIf you are a saints fan, you want this over and done with ASAP.
Crouch should go to the saints on a 3 or 4 year deal at $700,000 a year. Could get the crows a 1st rounder. But I think pick 20 is fair.
Saints would be hesitant on trading pick 14 or 2021 1st rounder.
It will be over Friday if the offer is poor and not band 1he stays at the crows
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Hey, here's $50 or give me a call and I'll give you $100.Why even bother with a trade if you get pick 19 saints don’t have a lot to offer in terms of picks
I can be empathetic to North, after all if this happens we would understand your pain. However, I think North would still get a great player, either McDonald or Thilthorpe, it's Sydney who miss out. I don't have empathy for Sydney though, with 2 first round academy players and pick 3 (4 in this scenario) they are fine.Damn such a vengeful heart. I was certainly one against the handouts Gold Coast were being given as it would unfairly impact other clubs. As for others I do not speak for them but I have remained consistent on this issue for a long time now.
And 150k less than Zac Williams750k for crouch is also as much as 800k for treloar (repotted on afl.com.au today)...
Even if crows match your kidding yourself if they give up pick 15 and a future rounder , his not even worth 15 LOLsure they do, 2020 1st, 2021 1st, 2020 2nd..plenty of picks there and the crows will want a few of them. Why should St Kilda get the free hit of a quality mid and not have to adequately pay for it. It will cost Sty Kilda either pure salary or pick 15 and probably the 2021 2nd - they get to choose which one
we will see just how much St Kilda think he is worth in a few days time..with the promp[tings from Kelly I hope it has focused their minds to make the offer as good as it can be to make sure the crows don't need to match.. and remember they said Band 2 will not cut it and the WILL match and it will most certainly cost St Kilda some of their top end draft capital.Even if crows match your kidding yourself if they give up pick 15 and a future rounder , his not even worth 15 LOL
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Sure sureIf the Crows match the contract & Brad stays managers & clubs will be thinking why the hell didn’t the Crows just offer that deal in the first place instead of wasting everyone’s time. It would come across as incredibly amateurish.
not at all..they will all know that pick 2 was possibly in play and I bet you all 18 clubs would consider allowing one of their better players to walk for pick 2If the Crows match the contract & Brad stays managers & clubs will be thinking why the hell didn’t the Crows just offer that deal in the first place instead of wasting everyone’s time. It would come across as incredibly amateurish.