Free Agency Brad Crouch [joins St Kilda as a RFA for pick 23]

[stfan]

With Crouch that is one target gained. 3 or 4 to go

 

[bluesteel2008]

Saints have pace and outside players, we don’t have contested ball winners/clearance players so he will be a big improvement in that area. A midfield of Steele, Crouch and Jones with Gresham/Clark coming in and out is pretty decent.

 

[Suma Magic]

Well you know what you have to do to avoid a trade .

Wouldn’t crouch accept a matched offer? Meaning that the crows won’t be able to force a trade even if they wanted to?

 

[joop]

What’s that? an accumulator that doesn’t hurt other teams

Yeh actually thats pretty much exactly what we need.

 

[diddley1984]

Happy to get him as FA but if it was a trade then meh

Same here.
I am really hoping that if it does come to a trade, then we back out. I think one of the strongest part of the appeal in this acquisition, is the cost. No picks, absolute winner.

 

[When I Crow Up]

Wouldn’t crouch accept a matched offer? Meaning that the crows won’t be able to force a trade even if they wanted to?

I was just semi-joking that all the Saints need to do is table an offer that nets the Crows band 1 compo and then they don't have to worry about trading.

 

[Pykie]

I'm done with this league if we finish 17th and end up with pick 4 or 5.

The system is so screwed up currently. FA compo and acadamies are far worse than priority picks ever were.


Such a ******* mess the game is in atm.

 

[TylerDurden]

Same here.
I am really hoping that if it does come to a trade, then we back out. I think one of the strongest part of the appeal in this acquisition, is the cost. No picks, absolute winner.

You'd think the Saints are ready for the trade scenario if they don't pony up the $800k a year to trigger band 1.

 

[Suma Magic]

I was just semi-joking that all the Saints need to do is table an offer that nets the Crows band 1 compo and then they don't have to worry about trading.

Haha ok.

But jokes aside, if crouch would accept a matched offer, and the crows don’t want to pay him that much, then there is zero chance of a trade, even if the compo is band 2.

 

[TylerDurden]

I was just semi-joking that all the Saints need to do is table an offer that nets the Crows band 1 compo and then they don't have to worry about trading.

You make it sound easy. You have to realise that paying him $800k a year can do damage to the rest of their list. He's not Dusty Martin, he's an average midfielder. Suicide if you ask me.

 

[Dangerousfield]

Yesssss! St.Kilda, have shown they'll splash the cash to get players in. Pick 2, here we go

 

[Hamingja]

Yesssss! St.Kilda, have shown they'll splash the cash to get players in. Pick 2, here we go

Pick 20 and the Saints have nothing to trade for him. Poor Adelaide.

 

[TylerDurden]

Pick 20 and the Saints have nothing to trade for him. Poor Adelaide.

Exactly. Aren't they paying Hill $900k a year, and made large offers to all of Ryder, Jones, Howard and Butler last year??

 

[Atomboy]

What’s that? an accumulator that doesn’t hurt other teams

We already have Luke Dunstan

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[Redline]

Brad is a good pickup for the Saints, he is a good player, he will be rated higher playing in Victoria. His injuries record is also over played.

I don't support it but anyone that has been around around Football clubs know what players get up to. I doubt the incident the other week alarmed too many clubs in this particular case. He doesn't have off field issues like many others.

 

[Taylor]

Haha ok.

But jokes aside, if crouch would accept a matched offer, and the crows don’t want to pay him that much, then there is zero chance of a trade, even if the compo is band 2.

The same can be said of Jeremy Cameron

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We could see a circumstance where the first two restricted free agents to ever be matched with hope for a trade ended up keeping their players at a much higher price than comfortable.

It would be an interesting story for trade week in ten years.

 

[MisterMarcus]

Will be interesting what happens if it doesn't net band 1.

Saints have 15, 58, 71. Not a lot to play with unless any players end up being involved.

15 for Crouch straight deal?

 

[When I Crow Up]

You make it sound easy. You have to realise that paying him $800k a year can do damage to the rest of their list. He's not Dusty Martin, he's an average midfielder. Suicide if you ask me.

That's why I said I was semi-joking. Of course it's not that simple, and they'll have a dollar value on what pick 15 is worth too so will have to assess the value in paying BCrouch more and his value to their midfield. He won't be offered $800k, but if an extra $50k a year to Brad means they get to keep pick 15 well then it might well be worth it to them.

 

[bluesteel2008]

Brad is a good pickup for the Saints, he is a good player, he will be rated higher playing in Victoria. His injuries record is also over played.

I don't support it but anyone that has been around around Football clubs know what players get up to. I doubt the incident the other week alarmed too many clubs in this particular case. He doesn't have off field issues like many others.

People are dumb if they don’t think a large number of players in the league get on the bags in the off season. Getting on the beers kills their skinfolds, bags don’t. What do you think they are doing in Europe and the US every year? Not sight seeing. These are well off kids in their 20’s, most not well of people in their 20’s dabble. He just got caught.

 

[Elmer_Judd]

Brad is a good pickup for the Saints, he is a good player, he will be rated higher playing in Victoria. His injuries record is also over played.

I don't support it but anyone that has been around around Football clubs know what players get up to. I doubt the incident the other week alarmed too many clubs in this particular case. He doesn't have off field issues like many others.

The issue I have with Crouch is that he was caught holding the bag with Cocaine (even though I firmly believe it was Stengle's coke, not his)

If It was just some weed/hash, I doubt there would be so much of a furore really.

From all reports he has been a solid citizen up until that point, so he does get the benefit of the doubt from me though.

Saints look like a good fit for him though as well.

Hope the Crows get good compo as well.

 

[Suma Magic]

The same can be said of Jeremy Cameron

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We could see a circumstance where the first two restricted free agents to ever be matched with hope for a trade ended up keeping their players at a much higher price than comfortable.

It would be an interesting story for trade week in ten years.

It seems less certain with Cameron though that it’s just about money.

I think there is no chance that the crows match if he is going to accept it and they don’t want that outcome. In that scenario they can only just accept the compo.

 

[Redline]

You'd think the Saints are ready for the trade scenario if they don't pony up the $800k a year to trigger band 1.

Agreed, will see what happens but people on here think clubs don't work through all these scenarios or even have off the record discussions with the AFL.
Especially when there is a good relationship between people at the clubs. The Saints and the Crows would know if they need to trade or not. If it is a trade they would of have already discussed options.

 

[RWB4life]

If Adelaide would match surely he would just stay. I'm guessing it's free agency or stay. Doubt it'll be a trade.

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[Taylor]

It seems less certain with Cameron though that it’s just about money.

I think there is no chance that the crows match if he is going to accept it and they don’t want that outcome. In that scenario they can only just accept the compo.

I think if the paperwork is lodged for any free agent this season then the player is gone for the compensation pick, no matter what it is.

 

[Lightsxo]

The issue I have with Crouch is that he was caught holding the bag with Cocaine (even though I firmly believe it was Stengle's coke, not his)

If It was just some weed/hash, I doubt there would be so much of a furore really.

From all reports he has been a solid citizen up until that point, so he does get the benefit of the doubt from me though.

Saints look like a good fit for him though as well.

Hope the Crows get good compo as well.

Bit of booger sugar never hurt anyone.

If we’re being that precious then we would wipe out over 75% of the AFL for dabbling.

Not the smartest getting caught I’ll admit.