News Brad Crouch to Saints (STK make offer; Band 3, ADL to match?)
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Once its set in stone, it wont matter. Happy Days.Watch the heat go onto the Saints if it's a 5 year deal
It's absurd. It makes no sense and there's no reason that the AFL should continue to push for it this late in the piece. The total $ saving to the industry of dropping 2 players off the rookie list pales into insignificance when compared to clubs not knowing list sizes as at 28/10. That said, the clubs don't seem to be doing themselves any favours, so they're probably the ones pushing to save the $150k each.
Just responding to the quote. I did say he must have said something else.
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This is going to backfire on us badly ......brad wants to stay on the St Kilda Contract
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Then that's the market value, and if it's not pick 2, then we keep him on the market rate. At least you can't say we have overpaid for him.
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Fully aware of that.
The conversation started because somebody stated that it would be negligent to not bid on JUH at Pick 1.
I stated that it would be far more negligent to not swap picks with the Dogs in exchange for an “understanding” that we would NOT bid at Pick 1.
Somebody else then claimed that the AFL might be suss on this. I simply stated that it’s not as clear cut as some seem to think that JUH is the standout player in this draft. Also, it happens every single year inside the top 10 so there’s no way the AFL can take issue with it.
It can't backfire. We match, he requests a trade. If he doesn't and Kelly isn't telling fibs, Brad is happy to stay. Ball is still in Brad's court if we match.
Where does your information on how this formula works come from then?
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Yes we have ....Saints loaded the Contract to avoid trading .....he's a $550K PY player, no more
I doubt it. There's no way Kelly would make those comments without having an idea of what Brad wants.
How non sensible it is to let a side trade a higher pick for a lower pick because it is worth more picks?
It's gaming the system, giving a stronger advantage on top of an already strong advantage. This can ONLY be bad for the fairness of the competition.
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We are being setup by Brads Management
you can't load a free agency contract the way you can with a rookie draft.
Thats fine with me, as long as Midfield and speed are priorities to address for the draft.
puts him on par with some of the so called experts on talent here on this board I'd think lol
What I'm pleased about is Kelly has come out and said, Brad loves the club and we'd be happy to keep him if the AFC aren't adequately compensated.
Whether this is true or not, its the exact right message at this stage of the negotiations.
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Are you a double agent?
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I have no misunderstanding. They don’t have him at number 1 in their power rankings. In fact I believe they both have him at 3.
Prior to this discussion I had mistakenly thought that eDPS also had JUH at number 2 in his rankings but I was incorrect on that one upon going back and checking. I would be interested to hear his thoughts on how clear cut “JUH over Hollands / McDonald / Campbell etc” now is though as we hit the official trade period.
Knightmare has had JUH at number 1 all year, but he certainly seems very high on McDonald too, so I suspect it’s very close there.
Where does Your's? Not that you'll move an inch, but here it is. I'm backing him in ahead of poster's in here best guesses. Many of whom didn't even understand the rudimentary contract lodging process with AFL House.
The AFL's secret formula for free agency compensation
Length of contract is largely irrelevant, but a one-year age gap can make a big difference.
Sorry, that doesn't make sense to me. Who's got the advantage over who? A higher pick for a lower pick bevause it's worth more picks? What does that mean? Maybe a real world hypothetical would help.
Totally agree. Kelly gave all the right messages to leave us in a good position strategy wise for future negotiations with Saints and Western Bulldogs. What I couldn’t believe was him saying that they hadn’t even got an idea of the Saints deal from them or Brads agent. If that’s true then it’s absolutely absurd and will hurt both clubs. It certainly seemed to put to bed the idea that Adelaide and Saints are trying to ensure a win/win for both clubs.
Even if we are, we only match if we're prepared to have him remain on those terms. At that point, the ball is in our court.
He means are paying more than his playing value to keep draft collateral. Effectively a component of his wage is purchasing their own draft picks.
Where does Your's? Not that you'll move an inch, but here it is. I'm backing him in ahead of poster's in here best guesses. Many of whom didn't even understand the rudimentary contract lodging process with AFL House.
The AFL's secret formula for free agency compensation
Length of contract is largely irrelevant, but a one-year age gap can make a big difference.www.theage.com.au
Sorry I msremembered which paper it was from.
but it's the same unsourced, unproven bullshit I was thinking about.
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