News Brad Crouch to Saints (STK make offer; Band 3, ADL to match?)

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I'm not worried about Brad getting paid enough for band 1.

I'm worried the AFL will work it's magic on the compensation, and decide we aren't getting pick 2.

I was at First then I realize that no team has lost 3 players to Unrestricted/restricted Free agency in the One year, this is a first in the AFL, and one they will be mindful of, Key word would be a Net Loss of 3 Players,
And the one comment people keep putting up about the AFL making a call not in favor of the Crows is this,
"In applying the formula, an expert committee reviews the formula outcomes. The committee has the power to recommend alternative outcomes to GM – Football Operations where the formula produces a materially anomalous result "
But they are Forgetting this comment.
"Compensation in the form of AFL allocated draft picks apply to clubs with a net loss of free agents. This is based on a formula determined by the AFL."
that comment works both ways, and I am hoping will favour the Crows in getting an Honest deal.

 

[Crow till I die]

while that sounds fun, do we have enough room?

that is bringing 8 in..others would know the list size we have atm and what the projected list size might be..

 

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In terms of applying the formula.

Cameron is 27.

Joe is 25.

Brad is 26.

Brad and Joe are the same age only 2 months different both 26
Joe born 4 March 1994
Brad born 14 January 1994

 

[Hodgy]

I realise he isn’t the bible for everything but Cal Twomey doesn’t have O’Driscoll in his top 30.

Why are you keen on him with 13?

I want Ford and Cook, ftr.

Yes O’Driscoll seems to be the player that divides opinion the most out of the top ranked juniors, and the club would know better than any of us whether we could get him at 20 rather than 12. I like him because he makes our list of midfielders well rounded. His testing figures were elite and he is a big mid with good strength and speed which is something that we don’t really have. The other point is that he is mates from the same team as McDonald which will only help with settling and retention of both of them. Whilst that isn’t a good enough reason to recruit him, it certainly doesn’t hurt. Also he has already played league footy and his body is pretty well AFL ready.

 

[GameofSloanes]

At the end of this we have Rendell talking of every season he was at the AFC , he would ring every manager that had SA boys in it interstate. He would ask if any would want to return. He claims not one wanted back and they were more than settled in their new environment. PA seems to have a much better outcome on returning players.

Don't ask if they want to come back, say we'll offer you x if you do.

 

[Hodgy]

I was at First then I realize that no team has lost 3 players to Unrestricted/restricted Free agency in the One year, this is a first in the AFL, and one they will be mindful of, Key word would be a Net Loss of 3 Players,
And the one comment people keep putting up about the AFL making a call not in favor of the Crows is this,
"In applying the formula, an expert committee reviews the formula outcomes. The committee has the power to recommend alternative outcomes to GM – Football Operations where the formula produces a materially anomalous result "
But they are Forgetting this comment.
"Compensation in the form of AFL allocated draft picks apply to clubs with a net loss of free agents. This is based on a formula determined by the AFL."
that comment works both ways, and I am hoping will favour the Crows in getting an Honest deal.

Agreed. The AFL is largely about perception however, and for this reason I would love to hear the club all this week using every opportunity in the media to bring up that we finished last and have lost the most FA’s of any team ever. Make the mindset amongst the average punter that Adelaide really needs help to overcome these huge losses and then I believe the AFL will be much more likely to stick with the formula that would award band 1 for Brad.
also we should be highlighting that while some people would see pick 2 as “materially anomalous” for Brad, that pick 19 would be even more so. That if St Kilda see him as worth $800k a year then pick 19 would be totally undervaluing his worth. We never seem to set the agenda in the media, we always being too reasonable.

 

[pjcrows]

Not sure what's missing but the Tippett, Danger, Lever and McGovern trade threads were much more entertaining and fast-moving. In those days you'd check it after two hours and there'd by 25 new pages.

We need to lift.

 

[Thetrader15]

Not sure what's missing but the Tippett, Danger, Lever and McGovern trade threads were much more entertaining and fast-moving. In those days you'd check it after two hours and there'd by 25 new pages.

We need to lift.

we need some more rumours...it's been 2 days since we had news!

 

[Vhaluus]

An in the know poster on the dogs board who’s a player agent has said it’s an absolute 100% guarantee that you guys won’t bid on JUH at pick 1.

"In the know"

aka bullshitter.

 

[Skiddies]

How would a Bulldogs poster know the about the inner thoughts of AFC... unless the Bullies have agreed to trade their 1st round pick to the Crows...

He’s a player agent based in Sydney who can connections with other agents. And probably has a fair idea as to who you will be taking.

 

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He’s a player agent based in Sydney who can connections with other agents. And probably has a fair idea as to who you will be taking.

More inclined to believe that as well, No bids on the 1st pick,
However If the Crows get Pick two then I believe a bid will come

 

[Skiddies]

More inclined to believe that as well, No bids on the 1st pick,
However If the Crows get Pick two then I believe a bid will come

I absolutely agree with that.

 

[Thetrader15]

I absolutely agree with that.

If they have 1 and 2, why would they not bid at 1 unless there is something in it for us?

 

[Mutineer]

Yes O’Driscoll seems to be the player that divides opinion the most out of the top ranked juniors, and the club would know better than any of us whether we could get him at 20 rather than 12. I like him because he makes our list of midfielders well rounded. His testing figures were elite and he is a big mid with good strength and speed which is something that we don’t really have. The other point is that he is mates from the same team as McDonald which will only help with settling and retention of both of them. Whilst that isn’t a good enough reason to recruit him, it certainly doesn’t hurt. Also he has already played league footy and his body is pretty well AFL ready.

And both lads played Championships for WA with Ronin O'Connor.

 

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If they have 1 and 2, why would they not bid at 1 unless there is something in it for us?

There is something in for the Crows, But it is All non-Football 30k gift to the number pick from the AFL and NAB, Exposure, Sponsorship.

 

[hey shorty]

There is something in for the Crows, But it is All non-Football 30k gift to the number pick from the AFL and NAB, Exposure, Sponsorship.

If we were worried about that I'd be very disappointed

 

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If we were worried about that I'd be very disappointed

Crows would not be, But I strongly believe the Crows will want to use the First Pick on a Kid who will be at the Club,
Everyone Know the Bulldogs will match,

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Crows would not be, But I strongly believe the Crows will want to use the First Pick on a Kid who will be at the Club,
Everyone Know the Bulldogs will match,

And that's a plus. Our 1st pick doesn't have the pressure of the No1 , we force WB to use their picks or allows us to negotiate their pick 12.

 

[Thetrader15]

There is something in for the Crows, But it is All non-Football 30k gift to the number pick from the AFL and NAB, Exposure, Sponsorship.

so nothing really.

 

[Anzacpaul]

If we don't intend to bid on JUH, whoever made that decision should be sacked before draft night.

EDIT: Unless it means we get their first round draft pick for points equivalent of later picks.

 

[Skiddies]

And that's a plus. Our 1st pick doesn't have the pressure of the No1 , we force WB to use their picks or allows us to negotiate their pick 12.

Why would the pressure from the Adelaide media be any different whether or not you bid on JUH at pick 1 or not? It’s such a strange argument to make that you think the pressure from the local media will be any less just because you might match a bid on pick 1 and choose your player at 2. It won’t make any difference.

 

[ad victoriam]

so nothing really.

Apart from the feel-good of actually using the number 1 pick on a kid who you hope will be at the Club in 10 year.

 

[Chase13]

Didn't say a lot but I wish he would quicken his speech. What I took out of it was that we are pretty much just focusing on the draft but keeping out ears open for a trade if someone of interest becomes available. Also mentioned we were happy to keep Brad if we weren't adequately compensated. Was asked about Treloar but sounds like we hadn't enquired.

ADAM KELLY ON KYMBO & THE ROOCH (27.10.20) - Kymbo & The Rooch

Kymbo & the Rooch were joined by Crows Footy Boss Adam Kelly to discuss Brad Crouch, Orazio Fantasia and the finalization of their...

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so looks like we taking 1 8 20 29 plus brad crouch

5

Brad Crouch

Age

30

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.1

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

5.5

5star

CL

5.0

5star

D

20.3

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

9.1

5star

M

1.5

2star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

11.6

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

4.2

5star

CL

2.6

5star

pick if 2 ( if not match keep ) to draft catagorically said

so taking 5 plus nga father son unless moving up draft maybe 20 plus 29 for 13. I 2 8 13 plus borlase newchurch edwards
means hately pick be after that likely 44

on chopping block poholkie McKay and one other

 

[ad victoriam]

so looks like we taking 1 8 20 29 plus brad crouch

5

Brad Crouch

Age

30

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.1

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

5.5

5star

CL

5.0

5star

D

20.3

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

9.1

5star

M

1.5

2star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

11.6

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

4.2

5star

CL

2.6

5star

pick if 2 ( if not match keep ) to draft catagorically said

so taking 5 plus nga father son unless moving up draft maybe 20 plus 29 for 13. I 2 8 13 plus borlase newchurch edwards
means hately pick be after that likely 44

on chopping block poholkie McKay and one other

Pohokle maybe steak knifes to GWS,

 

[Thetrader15]

Apart from the feel-good of actually using the number 1 pick on a kid who you hope will be at the Club in 10 year.

so nothing really. I'd prefer to put the dogs back into deficit and get a pick earlier next year.