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Brad Ebert
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Miguel Sanchez
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That probably explains why you can't spell brilliance...
^^^ which one of you should be offended by that pb?
i doubt ebert will have to go to the psd. if he did gws or gc will not be an issue at all.would not even be on their radar. the only issue is would port really want to do that to west coast?? i doubt it, it would be an extreme case scenario.
still think west coast fans have done a massive turn-around over 12 months ago. yeah i kept an eye on your board and remember very many wanting him out of the team and judged him very harshly.
now despite him having played on a hff this year you;
insist that he is a good player,
you would likely not get a better player than him with pick 28/33,
he has improved over last year, playing on a hff.
and his best position is in the middle???
i doubt ebert will have to go to the psd. if he did gws or gc will not be an issue at all.would not even be on their radar. the only issue is would port really want to do that to west coast?? i doubt it, it would be an extreme case scenario.
still think west coast fans have done a massive turn-around over 12 months ago. yeah i kept an eye on your board and remember very many wanting him out of the team and judged him very harshly.
now despite him having played on a hff this year you;
insist that he is a good player,
you would likely not get a better player than him with pick 28/33,
he has improved over last year, playing on a hff.
and his best position is in the middle???
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TheBrownDog
Nah, going by the 'non-Victorian clubs will want any old spud from their state no matter how bad he is' theory the three-way trade would involve Edwards coming to Port and Pettigrew going to West Coast.
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Would rather lose him for nothing than get bent over. Sound familiar?
Sure we give up pick 33 in a weak draft but the message it sends to any future player / club wanting to trade with us is pretty clear.
As for GC or GWS not taking him because he wants to go home. Well Ebert isn't old enough to qualify for free agency and thats not even applicable yet so saying he won't move to GC or GWS is draft tampering and a 2 year suspension.
GWS and GC would seriously consider grabbing him even if they did trade him the following year to Port, they would pick up a good, hard bodied ready made player for free and worst case on trade him the following year in a deep draft, sounds like good planning to me.
Losing Ebert by rejecting 33 is a good long term investment in the clubs trade credability IMO. We did alright trading Judd out of contract and even Seaby so either put up a decent offer or get stuffed.
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TheBrownDog
Don't know about 33, but 28 is a fair offer. If you didn't take that, then you wouldn't look tough, you'd just look like dicks.
Asgardian
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Geelong got Matty Scarlett as a father / son pick before there was any bidding on the father / son nominations.
So go back to the drawing board and try harder.
Pre Season Draft picks cannot be traded, nor can Rookie draft picks.
Collusion between clubs re drafting is draft tampering, the AFL would come down on that like a ton of bricks.
Trolled yourself..
I like Port I think they will be a very good team in a few years with some very good young players on the list ATM. And moving to the new stadium will significantly swell the crowd attendances in a few years.
You are really letting the PR team down though.
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dickballsack
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this is spot on, as much as this will annoy WC fans the simple fact of footy these days is that clubs respect the fact that a player wants to go to a patricular club. it wont stop them from trying to convince the player otherwise, but once thats done they wont stand in their way.
Your only as good as your last innings longdonkey. Has been that way on Bigfooty and always will be.
Its pretty clear this will be the first trade organised come trade week. Port didnt go behind our back to offer Ebert a contract etc to stand firm over a few measley spots in the drafting order.
Deal will be Pick 29 + 33 for Ebert and 45. Quite simply if Port hold onto pick 33 they are going to have to give it up for Griffin when its all said and done. If they give it up on day one of trade week they can instead organise a more suitable deal to get Jon Griffin in that would most likely involve a player for player swap like Jacob Surjan or Michael Pettigrew
Its pretty clear this will be the first trade organised come trade week. Port didnt go behind our back to offer Ebert a contract etc to stand firm over a few measley spots in the drafting order.
Deal will be Pick 29 + 33 for Ebert and 45. Quite simply if Port hold onto pick 33 they are going to have to give it up for Griffin when its all said and done. If they give it up on day one of trade week they can instead organise a more suitable deal to get Jon Griffin in that would most likely involve a player for player swap like Jacob Surjan or Michael Pettigrew
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TheBrownDog
Why do those two always get lumped together on Bigfooty? It'd be like a Port player wanting to go to the Eagles and us suggesting a player swap of someone like Matt Rosa or Bradd Dalziell. Surjan is a very good player (who admittedly had a very bad year) and Pettigrew is a terrible one.
I will be absolutley gobsmacked if Port offered up more than 28 for Ebert particularly with the insurance of the PSD pick. As for Griffin still not convinced that we'll get him (or even need him that much). I'd sooner take another player for a lower pick or one of the guys from the SANFL who used to towel Griffin up as a mature aged rookie.
WCE and Freo are not interested in our players which is fine.
Probably because they are the same age, from the same state, played a similar amount of games. Id say Freo would take on Surjan moreso then Pettigrew (Roger Hayden retired and he fills more of a need). Way I see it working out for Port is
Pick 28 + 33 for Ebert + 45
Surjan + 45 for Griffin + 38ish?
What insurance of the PSD pick? Eberts manager says he will not enter the PSD. His words not anyone elses. Port will offer up more then 28 because you have chased him hard. You dont put this much effort into getting a player in and then at the trade table say "nah we dont really want him". You do want him, you do want a mature aged ruckman aswell and your not going to sacrifice losing all of this for a mere 12 draft positions.
Worst comes to worse Ebert signs a 1 year deal and we trade him on next season at a much stronger draft. Eagles have said they dont want any Port players. Freo have said nothing of the sort. Im not sure what articles you have been reading....
This article http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...bert-out-in-cold/story-fn69a32t-1226162040823
I think Ebert's manager is of the opinion that a deal will be done because WCE will be reasonable about what Brad is worth. Judging by your post WCE can say they want Pick 6 and Port are bound to roll over and say "we want him have what you want"
Port are not likely to risk an entire years draft choices (except pick 6) to get just Griffin and Ebert.
We are in a rebuilding stage and we need the picks to get young blood into the club.
Your not risking an entire years draft choice. If you traded Ebert for pick 28 and Griffin for pick 33 you would. If you did it my way you still have pick 6, 45 and 50 odd + the addition of 2 players into your starting 18. If that isnt a good trade/draft then what is?
As much as you will deny it. Ebert is young blood. Has 10 years ahead of him
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THe Eagles could easily play Hard ball on Ebert , .... we employed his father Craig for three seasons as our P/T recruitment officer and have played Ebert in 90 % of occasions albeit dropped in the finals . WCE have done all they could for Ebert and it seems Port will need to offer a suitable trade / Pick to satisfy West Coast .
Personally I liked Ebert and his ability to stand up in contested play and give the ball off to the best option ,... I never liked those helicopter punts though
THe Eagles could easily play Hard ball on Ebert , .... we employed his father Craig for three seasons as our P/T recruitment officer and have played Ebert in 90 % of occasions albeit dropped in the finals . WCE have done all they could for Ebert and it seems Port will need to offer a suitable trade / Pick to satisfy West Coast .
Personally I liked Ebert and his ability to stand up in contested play and give the ball off to the best option ,... I never liked those helicopter punts though
Here's a sample of players taken at Pick 33 throughout the past 10 years who are still on lists
Jeremy Howe
Anthony Long
Tom Gillies
Jarryd Morton
Sam Gilbert
Jed Adcock
David Rodan
I think you are asking a lot seeing this is the bonus on top of what most neutral observers think is a fair swap Pick Number 28. As you can see you can get a good quality player at 33.
Jeremy Howe
Anthony Long
Tom Gillies
Jarryd Morton
Sam Gilbert
Jed Adcock
David Rodan
I think you are asking a lot seeing this is the bonus on top of what most neutral observers think is a fair swap Pick Number 28. As you can see you can get a good quality player at 33.
I have no regrets about us picking him, except for him wanting to leave. Hopefully he won't allow us to be ****ed over then. And really, why would he want to leave to a club that doesn't rate him?? I would say your club rates him more than you do. As shown by the fact they allegedly offered more money than we have.
We don't want to bend you over, I see there has been limited discussion of pick 6. We just want fair compensation, which is tough in this draft given how late your PP is and how weak the draft is down that way.
Did you miss the pick 45 you also get? Compare the difference between pick 45 and pick 33 in terms of players still on list. I doubt its as big a deal as your making out.
With pick 28 and 33 Eagles will package it to trade for another first rounder I think or a grab at Mitch Clark. Without pick 33 our trade position is pretty much non existant.
I think he would become a better player anywhere next year. He's improved a lot this year and I was looking forward to watching his further development next year.
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I've never understood this logic of "I want the club I'm going to to become weaker by giving up more than they have to in order to a quite me."
Once someone has decided to leave, they're thinking about their next club, not their last. He doesn't want to harm the club he's going to by having them overpay.
28 is fine. probably his true worth
Once someone has decided to leave, they're thinking about their next club, not their last. He doesn't want to harm the club he's going to by having them overpay.
28 is fine. probably his true worth
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