Traded Brad Hill [traded with future 3rd to St Kilda for Acres, #10, #58, future 2nd and 4th]

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Lore

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If you go back & read the context, then the merits of a direct swap & the relevant worth of each player were being discussed.....I'm not going to do all the reading for you.
I wasn't asking you to. I'm telling you he cannot be a delisted free agent. He also can't change clubs during the supplementary signing period unless he's been nominated for the draft and fallen through undrafted.

If he rejects an offer from the current club, or delists himself (or retires), he is not a free agent. See for yourself:

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Jeff76

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If we wanted 2 firsts or a top 10 for TK last year then there’s 2 chances Cats do a swap for Hill, Buckley’s and fu** all. TK does a hell of a lot more for Freo than Hill does for us. I’d rather draft picks thanks.
 

CatToTheFuture

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No...He doesn't have to go to the draft.....He can sign with whomever he chooses once his contract expires as an unsigned free-agent, after the draft.

He has that option.
No he does not. He isn't a free agent as he hasn't served the required time and he has not been delisted. So no. He can't. If he doesn't get traded or sign on his only option is the draft.
 

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Max zero

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If he was willing I wouldn't mind giving up a first rounder for 25 yo durable winger with 3 flags and plenty of finals experience.

Kelly can go to Freo for a crazy price.
 

Scotland

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Tim Kelly suggestion for a while has been two firsts with a second going the other way.

Wonder what Freo would say to that for Hill. WC firsts, not from some bottom 6 club.

Academic obviously, Hill isn't going to leave Freo to stay in Perth.
 

Barlow#14

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Jesus that doesn't look good. I always thought it was Freo or Hawthorn, with Hawthorn unlikely this offseason i thought he would stay at freo. But if he wants to get away from Ross he may just sign with another vic club.

What happens this week when he gives Clarko a massive hug after the game, im not sure but does this destabilize the group?
 

bird_man

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If Kelly's contract lapses at the end of October, then he becomes an unsigned free agent....It's that simple.
What in the world are you talking about?

If this were the case then anyone who is out of contract could become a FA, except the club would get no compo...

I've been following the trade and draft period closely for years and never heard of this.

Only way Kelly can move if a trade can't be done is as a DFA or in one of the drafts and I don't see Geelong delisting him.
 

Scotland

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The number of people who don't understand list management rules in the AFL is concerning. There should be a stickied thread about it at the top of this board.
 

Eagle Wrath

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If this body language is anything to go by I think I know why Brad Hill might want out.

Though I can see his PoV. He has spent most of his career under one of the best coaches in the modern era and then experiences Ross Lyon.
I remember seeing that live. Ross told Hill to be respectful and pay attention.
 

CatToTheFuture

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If this body language is anything to go by I think I know why Brad Hill might want out.

Though I can see his PoV. He has spent most of his career under one of the best coaches in the modern era and then experiences Ross Lyon.
Didn't see it in real time but I would imagine being told that you were trade bait would not go down well with the player
 

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If we wanted 2 firsts or a top 10 for TK last year then there’s 2 chances Cats do a swap for Hill, Buckley’s and fu** all. TK does a hell of a lot more for Freo than Hill does for us. I’d rather draft picks thanks.
The problem the Cats have is getting what they want, what club can afford to trade for these early picks - have a look at the Dangerfield deal as what can be done verses what you want, of course no harm in dreaming.
 

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