Contracted Brad Hill

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I don't think anyone has mentioned loyalty in this thread, at least in the last few days. Breaking contracts on the other hand, is a reasonable thing to draw attention to.
The post was in general. Take one look at the Hawks board to read the salt.

That being said, it happens each time a quality player expresses their interest to move, or atleast the media does.

What's the problem with bringing it to attention when it isn't the main media focus?
 

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The post was in general. Take one look at the Hawks board to read the salt.

That being said, it happens each time a quality player expresses their interest to move, or atleast the media does.

What's the problem with bringing it to attention when it isn't the main media focus?
Funnily you have freo supporters liking your post, as opposed to the guy who sides with them.

Bizarre s**t. It's almost as if people see team colours before the context of the post...
 

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Can’t believe this one has legs.

Is Freo a revolving door?

Could be the culture you breed by trading in/out 4-5 players a year on the regular. Easy come, easy go.
 

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Ok Freo Fans ( and non Freo Fans ), like to hear what you all think... If TK said he will go to Freo.. And Brad Hill said he willing to go to Geelong.. What other picks should be involved to be a fair trade...
 

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Ok Freo Fans ( and non Freo Fans ), like to hear what you all think... If TK said he will go to Freo.. And Brad Hill said he willing to go to Geelong.. What other picks should be involved to be a fair trade...
Both players could be AA. It's more likely to be a direct swap with maybe an exchange of 2nd or 3rd round picks. We're not going to get Hill plus a first.
 

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Ok Freo Fans ( and non Freo Fans ), like to hear what you all think... If TK said he will go to Freo.. And Brad Hill said he willing to go to Geelong.. What other picks should be involved to be a fair trade...
I'd do a pick swap that moved you up the order and maybe slightly favours us in terms of points. (2nd for 3/4s)
Both players could be AA. It's more likely to be a direct swap with maybe an exchange of 2nd or 3rd round picks. We're not going to get Hill plus a first.
I hope so. If they were both OOC, then you might get that sort of deal, but highly doubt we move Brad on unless the deal is in our favour.
 

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I'd do a pick swap that moved you up the order and maybe slightly favours us in terms of points. (2nd for 3/4s)

I hope so. If they were both OOC, then you might get that sort of deal, but highly doubt we move Brad on unless the deal is in our favour.
For starters, getting access to Kelly is in your favour. Currently Brownlow favourite and leading the coaches votes. Kelly is an upgrade on Hill and makes your midfield elite.
 

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I haven't seen any Freo games so please let me know. Tim Kelly is the best player in the best team. Brad is certainly behind Walters and Fyfe at Freo, I imagine the third best player at Freo this year?

Kelly is superior but I don't know how much. Tim plus our second, Freo and there 1st? Does that seem reasonable or is Brad closer to Kelly then I think?
 

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For starters, getting access to Kelly is in your favour. Currently Brownlow favourite and leading the coaches votes. Kelly is an upgrade on Hill and makes your midfield elite.
Kelly is out of contract, and BHill with 2 years still to run, in a straight swap would be better than any other deal I can potentially see for you. It may not be exactly equal, but that is a value judgement, and it would be close anyway. Dockers wouldn't consider trading BHill unless a trade is requested by him. A lot easier to play in a midfield like Geelong has which is stacked full of talent.

The only other potential deal from our end would be something like Langdon and our 2nd, or possibly next year's first.

Trading our first would be unlikely as it sits nicely before likely bids for Henry from our NGA.
 

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All other BS aside - if Geelong can net Brad Hill as a direct swap for a departing, out of contract, Tim Kelly...then they are doing very well and that is a deal both clubs should be happy with.

If Kelly is leaving and there is 2 clubs in play, I would say scoring a top 3 mid from either club (ie. Fyfe, Walters, Hill, Yeo, Gaff, Shuey) is a great result.

Hill is a jet - far better player now than he was at Hawthorn and only 25? - great get.
 

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Kelly, definitely worth more than Hill but Kelly is uncontracted, Brad Hill has two years left and a player like Hill is going to be 100 times more desirable for Geelong given the window they are in and the alternative they'd get from WC.

Straight swap with a swap of 2nds chucked in since it makes little difference to us (will be eaten up by Henry bid) and would be a nice sweetener.

There is no chance it would be Hill and our first and we'd fight tooth and nail not to downgrade our first given it runs the risk of being taken up by Henry.

Kelly, pick 36 -> Hill, pick 26
 

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Brad Hill turns 27 half way through next season and is now somehow a better player than a few years ago when he was traded for pick 23 coming INTO his prime?? Ha ha ok. AA he won't be. He's likely to change his mind again in 2 years when something else changes in his "personal life". You can build teams around him for sure.

I'd spew if Geelong is involved in that trade. Hopefully you can con some desperate Melb club to cough up a pick from 18-25 for him which gives you more to trade for Kelly.

Freo fans seem to be like those guys you see at the Casino that pull off a few big wins at the trade table and think that it happens like that forever. Then they get a wake move and realise it doesn't. Brad Hill top 10 pick. Thats funny.
 
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For starters, getting access to Kelly is in your favour. Currently Brownlow favourite and leading the coaches votes. Kelly is an upgrade on Hill and makes your midfield elite.
Guarantee our midfield doesn't get better if Hill leaves unless we replace the outside run with someone of equal ability there. Kelly makes our inside work improve and goals from midfield, but they don't play the same role. In the previous few years before we had both Hill and Langdon playing well we struggled big time to move the ball.

Brad Hill turns 27 half way through next season and is now somehow a better player than a few years ago when he was traded for pick 23 coming INTO his prime?? Ha ha ok. AA he won't be. He's likely to change his mind again in 2 years when something else changes in his "personal life". You can build teams around him for sure.

I'd spew if Geelong is involved in that trade. Hopefully you can con some desperate Melb club to cough up a pick from 18-25 for him which gives you more to trade for Kelly.

Freo fans seem to be like those guys you see at the Casino that pull off a few big wins at the trade table and think that it happens like that forever. Then they get a wake move and realise it doesn't. Brad Hill top 10 pick. Thats funny.
I'll bet you BF accounts (loser closes account) that we get more than what you suggest for Brad Hill if he leaves. Interested?
 

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I'll bet you BF accounts (loser closes account) that we get more than what you suggest for Brad Hill if he leaves. Interested?
Sorry mate you have posted 7000 times in two years. This account means a lot in your life. I wouldn't do that to you. I also don't get into pi$$ing comps with Freo fans. Please refer to my casino reference before you lose it all
 

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Sorry mate you have posted 7000 times in two years. This account means a lot in your life. I wouldn't do that to you. I also don't get into pi$$ing comps with Freo fans. Please refer to my casino reference before you lose it all
So you won't back up your words then? Thought that might be the case.
 

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Brad Hill turns 27 half way through next season and is now somehow a better player than a few years ago when he was traded for pick 23 coming INTO his prime?? Ha ha ok. AA he won't be. He's likely to change his mind again in 2 years when something else changes in his "personal life". You can build teams around him for sure.

I'd spew if Geelong is involved in that trade. Hopefully you can con some desperate Melb club to cough up a pick from 18-25 for him which gives you more to trade for Kelly.

Freo fans seem to be like those guys you see at the Casino that pull off a few big wins at the trade table and think that it happens like that forever. Then they get a wake move and realise it doesn't. Brad Hill top 10 pick. Thats funny.
You underrate Hill - he’s in his prime now and is a serious player.

‘Now somehow a better player than he was when he was 23’

How does that even make sense?

Tim Kelly’s worth more now than when he was 23 isn’t he?...
 

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Surely geelong won't bite. Lose our best midfielder for an outside wingman who averages 5 contested possessions a game. We already have the best wingman in the league in Duncan and Clark developing nicely as well.
 

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For starters, getting access to Kelly is in your favour. Currently Brownlow favourite and leading the coaches votes. Kelly is an upgrade on Hill and makes your midfield elite.
Kelly isn't an upgrade on Brad Hill in the position Brad Hill plays. Kelly upgrades someone else in the stoppages and we have to find a replacement elite winger.

It's arguing that Patrick Cripps is an upgrade on Alex Rance.

If Kelly is out of contract and agrees to terms with Fremantle then Geelong get to try and squeeze as much value as they want before eventually making the trade anyway. Brad Hill doesn't get to go to the draft next season.

And it goes without saying, but what a player did last season doesn't help us win games the following year.
 
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