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Re: Who's missus did Brad Hodge pot?

Brad Hodge Test Average 56, FC average 49

Brad Haddin, Test Average 35 FC average 39

Haddin only sooks at the crowd, he's been carried for much of his test career with his sub par keeping and occasional tonk that comes off.
Sorry, I don't really count the crap they play against in England.

Hodge, Shield average 45.34
Haddin, Shield average 41.95

And I keep hearing how Hodge was the unluckiest bloke going around. Not even close to Lehmann.
 

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Re: Who's missus did Brad Hodge pot?

Sorry, I don't really count the crap they play against in England.

Hodge, Shield average 45.34
Haddin, Shield average 41.95

And I keep hearing how Hodge was the unluckiest bloke going around. Not even close to Lehmann.
Oh so you are picking and choosing how to count your FC averages. ><

As for Lehmann, I've often noted that he performed well at test level given he was past his prime and should have been in the test side 5 or 6 years earlier given his continually dominant form in this forum.

boof was a brilliant and dominant batsman who had the full array of shots.

As for unlucky, he performed adequately from his limited test opportunities and was dropped in favour of other players who didn't do the job.

Would have won the 2005 ashes if Michael Hussey and Hodge were retained ahead of some others at that time, who just didn't have the form to justify their selection.
 

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Re: Who's missus did Brad Hodge pot?

You can all bag me but I'm with Hodge on this one. I'd be devastated if I was potentially the best batsman the country had and selectors constantly overlooked me.
 

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Re: Who's missus did Brad Hodge pot?

You can all bag me but I'm with Hodge on this one. I'd be devastated if I was potentially the best batsman the country had and selectors constantly overlooked me.
I think David Hussey says hi.

Fantastic talent. You can understand why he struggled to get a permanent seat with WA (Gilchrist, martyn, rogers, langer, campbell etc) but between shield and county cricket this guy's been scoring at 55 runs in a lehmann like fc career.

Must eat his guts out seeing North, Clarke (a young clarke on his first incarntion), Smith, even Hodge get selected ahead of him.

Pretty handy with his dibbly dobblies too.

It seemed destiny to have two great brothers batting for Australia again, not seen since shane lee and brett lee held up the lower order for the Aussie lower order and tail in ODI's :p
 
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Maybe in another life, he will work out that being a team man counts for a lot. He clearly isn't a very good team man. Oh well, it is a unfortuante, because there is no doubting the fact that he can play the game.
 

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Maybe in another life, he will work out that being a team man counts for a lot. He clearly isn't a very good team man. Oh well, it is a unfortuante, because there is no doubting the fact that he can play the game.
I never really accept this argument.

Someone like Stuart MacGill made no bones about the fact that he was his own man and not "one of the boys". You never saw him get shafted in selection.

Plus the idea that everyone needs to be bestest bosom buddies with everyone else in the team is silly. These guys are professional elite sportsmen and grown men. It's not U12's park cricket where you've gotta be mates with the kid who's captain to get a game.
 

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Re: Who's missus did Brad Hodge pot?

Maybe in another life, he will work out that being a team man counts for a lot. He clearly isn't a very good team man. Oh well, it is a unfortuante, because there is no doubting the fact that he can play the game.
did you miss haydo's comments?

Pretty much most people reckon he's a good bloke.
 

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Would have won the 2005 ashes if Michael Hussey and Hodge were retained ahead of some others at that time, who just didn't have the form to justify their selection.
Agree, but both debuted after the 2005 Ashes so they couldn't have been 'retained'.

The selectors failed in not bringing in Hussey, Hodge or MacGill during the 2005 Ashes when we had players in the side obviously not performing.
 

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Agree, but both debuted after the 2005 Ashes so they couldn't have been 'retained'.

The selectors failed in not bringing in Hussey, Hodge or MacGill during the 2005 Ashes when we had players in the side obviously not performing.
In fairness the struggling middle order guys had been immense for us in 2004.

Hard to drop a guy like martyn for example when he had played so well in 2001 in england and was coming off dominating performances that helped us win in sri lanka and india.
 

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So in other words, y'know, pretty much definitive.

Okay right. Ponting and Hodge hate each other. As with all major sporting teams the Australian team is a major boys club, and Hodge was always on the outside of the main personalities in the team.

No one knows why he was dumped so quickly from the test team when mediocre players like North were given 213123123 tries to confirm their mediocre skills, If I can recall I remember hearing that they were worried about his play against the moving ball, and i agree that he's a bit of a flat tracker, but then again so are most Aussie players. I also heard the stories that it was a dispute between him and Ponting, and as i always have believed it was a bit of a RickysBoysClub, I wouldn't discount that!

 

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Let's apply occams razor.

Option A - There's a deep-seeded conspiracy to keep Hodge and other "form" Victorians like him out of the national side.

Option B - Hodge may have rubbed the selectors/the captain/the team up the wrong way.

Amazed at some on here who still cling to A as being the apparently more logical.
 
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Re: Who's missus did Brad Hodge pot?

did you miss haydo's comments?

Pretty much most people reckon he's a good bloke.
Didn't miss his quotes. I am taking personal friends opinions who have played both with him, and against him ahead of someone who i have never met.
 

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Hodge, I feel, was just fairly unlucky. Most of the players who were picked over him did pretty well and justified their spots, at least in the short term.

Agreed, he was a little harsh to be dropped for the South African tour in 06, but Martyn played some good innings and won us the last test. He got injured the a couple of days before Marto retired in the 06/07 Ashes, Symonds got the chance and batted well for the next couple of years. Probably stiff again that North was picked over him but, again, North justified his place for at least a year with some strong innings. By the time North came to be dropped, Hodge had retired from first class cricket.
 

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I've played plenty of team sports with shocking blokes, but it didn't matter as long as they benefitted the team. They could have been serial killers for all I cared.

Hodge getting dropped just defied logic. Watching the 20/20s and one dayers this year, he is still close to the best bat in the country.

I can understand his bitterness.
 
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Let's apply occams razor.

Option A - There's a deep-seeded conspiracy to keep Hodge and other "form" Victorians like him out of the national side.

Option B - Hodge may have rubbed the selectors/the captain/the team up the wrong way.

Amazed at some on here who still cling to A as being the apparently more logical.
You're forgetting Option C - the selectors are idiots.

His continual snubbing from the selectors was (at times) flat out bizarre. True, he had the misfortune of playing at a time when Australian cricket was blessed with a lot of options. But getting dropped so soon after a double century just didn't make sense.

IMHO, it culminated with the 2011 World Cup squad. At that stage Hodge was far and away the best one day batsman in Australia (outside of the national team) and had been for several seasons. But David Hussey, who had been in poor form, was favoured... apparently on the basis of his bowling. Ironic, given that Hodge is a handy part-timer himself.

Personally, I've never been much of a fan of Hodge. But if the only reason for his continual exclusion was his personality, then something is very, very wrong with the selection process. If it had something to do with a conflict with Ponting, then I'd really like to know what heinous crime Hodge was guilty of. Because it sounds pretty petulant from Ponting.
 

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Not sure why people think its a BF myth about Hodge as a bloke. I first heard it, and continously hear it on the radio, from a variety of people, on 6PR through the years. It is not a BF make up thing, it does the rings in real life to.

Not saying its true, just saying its not a BF antic.
 
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