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And we are in! Finals football!!!

Grêmio has won all three games of the second round-robin, after getting only 1 point in the first. We finished 2nd in the group and advanced to Libertadores' "Sweet-16".

I will edit this post with all the qualified teams. Here, they are:

1st
Inter (BRA)
Cruzeiro (BRA)
Cerro (PAR)
Olimpia (PAR)
Flamengo (BRA)
Palmeiras (BRA)
Boca (ARG)
Libertad (PAR)

2nd
River (ARG)
Emelec (ECU)
Godoy Cruz (ARG)
Nacional (URU)
Liga (ECU)
San Lorenzo (ARG)
Athletico (BRA)
Grêmio (BRA)

By country: BRA, 6; ARG, 4; PAR, 3; ECU, 2; URU, 1.

Draw on Monday, 05/13.
 
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Another continental cup for River Plate. Always a little bit nicer vs a Brazilian club.
 
GremioPower said:
Odds are against us, but it is soccer. Crazier things have happened...

Congratulations!
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Thanks but haven't won anything yet. Both Gremio and Flamengo will be hard, especially with the new format. River's strength over the past few years has been they success in the away legs.

Anyway, it's always nice to beat the old enemy. In the past 5 years we have eliminated Boca five times, in all head to head direct elimination series we played vs them. It's like Port beating the crows in finals 5 times in 5 years, including a GF.
 
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El Zorro said:
Looks like it's going to be the Fla...
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You think...

I was hopeless. Still, I sat to watch it. As soon as they scored the first goal, I went to bed.

Grêmio hasn't been playing well for quite a while. There was no way we would react. I wasn't expecting we would roll over and die, though. That was ridiculous...
 
Earlier this year I read an article about which nationalities own the biggest / financially strongest soccer clubs in the world. I put up the graphic an info in the other thread at

Round ball code talk

www.bigfooty.com www.bigfooty.com

I had to subscribe to them to download the 40 odd page report, so every Monday to Friday I get an email from them summarizing what articles are on their website at.

Soccerex – Football, Connected

www.soccerex.com www.soccerex.com

It is a England based site but it looks at the game worldwide. It has some good article and some that don't really grab my attention.

One of their articles a few months ago linked me to this Swiz site - CIES Football Observatory is a research group within the International Centre for Sports Studies (CIES), which is an independent study centre located in Neuchâtel, Switzerland, created in 1995 as a Foundation between FIFA, the University of Neutchatel and the city and state of Neutchatel.

They have 10 monthly reports each year starting in January 2015 and have June and July off. I used 44th Monthly club crowd averages report in the Atlanta Falcons/Atlanta United/Mecredes-Benz Stadium post the other day in the Stadium Deals thread.

Every year they have a report on where players move from and to around the world. Here is the link to the monthly report page

Reports - CIES Football Observatory

CIES Football Observatory Monthly Reports
football-observatory.com football-observatory.com

And here is the link and some graphs and info to the 45th Monthly report which shows Brazil, France and Argentina provide more players for the world player market than any other countries. You can look back to 35th, 25th and 8th monthly report for prior year info on player movement. There are lots of reports about transfer fees, player values, transfers in general, loaned players, age demographics, both men and women's, Big 5 League break downs, attendances, finances, style of play but these ones are more specific to the impact of South American football.

Monthly Report 45

Monthly Report
football-observatory.com


1. Introduction
This Monthly Report analyses the presence of expatriate footballers in 147 leagues from 98 national associations. Five championships from five different countries were added in comparison to the study carried out in 2018. The evolutions presented, however, refer to the same sample analysed last year. More than half of the leagues studied are in UEFA member associations, which reflects the solid anchoring of professional football in Europe.

Without taking into account the supplementary championships, the number of expatriates increased by 628 persons during last year (+5.0%). This increase shows that the internationalisation of the football players’ labour market is a well established process. Expatriates represent 21.4% of players taken into account. This percentage is less than 15% only in South America (18 leagues studied) and in Africa (6 championships covered).

The notion of expatriate defines players having grown up outside of the national association of their employer club and having moved abroad for sporting reasons. This definition allows us to isolate migrations directly linked to the practise of football. Indeed, players of foreign origin having grown up in the association of their employer club are not considered as expatriates.

The sample is made up of players having being fielded in championship matches during the current season. In the 127 competitions where it was possible to obtain the list of substitutes, presence on the bench also constituted a criterion for inclusion. The data is referenced up to the 23rd April 2019.

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2. Principle origins
Brazil is clearly at the top of the rankings for countries exporting footballers. In total, 1,330 players having grown up in Brazil play in the 147 leagues covered in this report. Brazilians are present in 85 associations out of 98. This reflects the unique role played by Brazil in supplying professional footballers worldwide.

With over 800 expatriates, France and Argentina also stand out from the crowd as exporting nations. Overall, almost a quarter of expatriates are from Brazil, France or Argentina (22.5%). The principle exporters from other continents are Nigeria for Africa (10th place, 361 expatriates), the United States for North America (25th, 145), Japan for Asia (30th, 128) and Australia for Oceania (35th, 101).

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If we equate the number of expatriates to the population resident in the country of origin, Iceland is at the top of the rankings. There is one Icelandic footballer abroad for every 5,458 inhabitants of the island. Uruguay is third behind Montenegro and ahead of five other nations of ex-Yugoslavia (Croatia, Serbia, Slovenia, Bosnia and North-Macedonia). Only countries with at least 50 expatriates were included in this analysis.

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In comparison to 2018, the biggest changes in absolute terms were recorded for the Brazilians, the Spanish and the Argentinians. In relative terms, among these three origins, the most notable increase was observed for the Spanish (+14.3%). The quality World Cup performances of the Colombian, Russian and Croatian national sides probably allowed players from these countries to increase their attractiveness abroad.

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3. Principle destinations
Two European countries are the biggest importers of footballers: England (728 players, 139 of which grew up in other UK nations) and Italy (636). In third place is an emerging force on the world football stage: the United States (575 players). You have to go down to 11th place to find the second non-European country: Mexico (289 imported footballers).

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In relative terms, the strongest presence of expatriates by club and league was recorded in the Cypriot top division with an average of 17.5 expatriates per team. Major League Soccer in the United States and Canada is the only non-European competition in the top twenty of this rankings. As for Belgium, it is the only country to be represented by two leagues: First Division A and First Division B.

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The South American championships are over-represented among those whose clubs employ, on average, the least number of players imported from abroad. There are almost no expatriates in the Brazilian Serie B and C. Only six championships from UEFA member countries figure in the top twenty of the rankings.

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4. Transfer networks
The most frequented migratory route originates from Brazil and ends in Portugal (261 players). The migration of Argentinians to Chile (116 players) is the second principle axis. Two migratory channels departing from England also involve many footballers: the first ends up in Scotland (113 players), while the second leads to Wales (92 players).

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The Brazilians constitute the only truly global force in the footballers’ labour market. Though Portugal remains by far their privileged destination (261 players), many Brazilians are to be found in other European countries (Italy, Spain, Ukraine; Turkey, Greece, etc.), in Asia (Japan, Saudi Arabia, Hong Kong, South Korea, Thailand, etc.) and in the Americas (principally the United States and Mexico). The full list is available in the exclusive CIES Football Observatory Atlas of Migration.

No Brazilians to Oz in 2018/19 it appears
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5. Conclusion
The international mobility of footballers has risen steadily over the years. The total amount of expatriate players has increased by 5% in comparison to 2018. Expatriates represent about a fifth of the total number of active players in the leagues analysed. This percentage is to 26% at the level of the championships from UEFA member countries.

During last year, the number of expatriates has increased for each of the three principle exporting countries: Brazil (+64 players, +4.8%), France (+37 players, +4.3%) and Argentina (+57, +7.0%). Alone, these countries export almost a quarter of footballers (22.5%). The number of Spaniards abroad went also strongly up (+61, +14.3%). This is the second biggest increase in absolute terms after that of the Brazilians.

England and Italy are the chief importing countries of footballers. The professional clubs of these countries employ 728 and 636 expatriate footballers respectively. Without taking into account the 139 citizens of the other UK nations present in England, the greatest number of players imported from abroad is to be found in Italy.
 

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GremioPower said:
Copa Libertadores - Best of Round 2:


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Where was the first game played? That looks like a lockout situation.

The second video is geoblocked. clicked on play and up comes the message
Video unavailable
The uploader has not made this video available in your country.
 
RussellEbertHandball said:
Where was the first game played? That looks like a lockout situation.
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Paraguay. Yes, it was locked out.

The second video is geoblocked. clicked on play and up comes the message
Video unavailable
The uploader has not made this video available in your country.
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Let's see if this works. It is not the whole fight, but the second part (after the first four red cards):
 
This is a better video 10 minutes of highlights.

For a 0-0 game it had plenty of action. And sprinklers turn on before the start of the game.

Love what the crowd are doing between 9.03 and 9.08.


 
2020 Libertadores — Quarterfinals

Almost set:
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Boca-Inter was postponed due Maradona’s death. 2nd leg is next week.

Grand Final will be played at Maracanã.

— Clubs per Country:
BRA, 3(4)
ARG, 2(3)
URU, 1
PAR, 1
 
Dec. 7th, 2016

Grêmio won its 5th Brazilian Cup title. Here, the goal that made it certain from the stands.

Gosh, I love soccer:


Here, the goal as shown by TV:
 
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GremioPower said:
2020 Libertadores — Quarterfinals

Almost set:
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Boca-Inter was postponed due Maradona’s death. 2nd leg is next week.

Grand Final will be played at Maracanã.

— Clubs per Country:
BRA, 3(4)
ARG, 2(3)
URU, 1
PAR, 1
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Will there be any crowds at any of the games??
 
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