Player Watch Brayden Maynard

[Kirby]

Yeah it was, here are the original posts I replied to …

Well ok, but that’s just one poster.

I’m more talking about the language used which is where most people weighed in. You were going in to bat for Wilson like her minder, defending her use of her words like it meant nothing (from her part).

Most posters are saying her language is fully intentional and it’s not semantics. At least I’m saying that and a few others too.

 

[ThePhantom777]

Melbourne supporters have embarrassed themselves endlessly with the way they talk about Maynard “ending Brayshaw’s career” as if Brayshaw didn’t have 5 or 6 concussions previously before this unfortunate collision took place.

Another player who suffered 5 or 6 or so concussions with the last one ending his career is Nathan Murphy. I don’t recall seeing a Pies fan crying foul about Lincoln McCarthy or whoever it was who accidentally cleaned him up in a contest. I’m not even certain it was McCarthy, such has been the lack of blame and show of understanding by our supporters.

What happened to Brayshaw stinks, but equally as stinky is Brayden copping the blame for years of unrelated head knocks.

Brayshaw shouldn't have been playing AFL after the first couple of concussions. It's dangerous.

 

[60 Yards Out]

It’s a parochial game.

Would you really give a toss if Caro launched a character assassination of Michael Voss? I’d be cheering her on.

As I’ve said, outrage is the stock in trade of many of the journos (Caro, Cornes, Robbo, Barrett). We’re the biggest so we cop more than our fair share, but I’d rather not get sucked in by the small / non-existent stuff, and keep my powder dry for when they go OTT.

I’m all for parochialism, but it doesn’t require character assassination to make it work. If Caro launches a character assassination campaign against Voss I’ll be troubled by that too.
It’s an element of the appeal to base instincts, which is the worst feature of media behaviour. It’s unfair and destructive to the individual. It distorts the truth, undermines our critical faculties and weakens the social fabric. We might have to tolerate it because it’s a habit that some media can’t rise above, but I don’t think we should defend it.

 

[NMBB]

... Would you really give a toss if Caro launched a character assassination of Michael Voss? I’d be cheering her on.....

It's Wilson's stock in trade - at the nasty end - over time she's had a go at Dane Swan, Dustin Martin - recently Clarkson/ Fagan.

Why would you cheer on character assassination of anyone (players/ coaches/ umpires) who put on the game each week?

Valid criticism of on field performance - yes eg the umpire's decision re the time wasting free kick in the Freo game.

I don't get cheering on character assassination.

The current tirade against McBurney is totally unwarranted and very unpleasant.

 

[76woodenspooners]

I’m more talking about the language used which is where most people weighed in. You were going in to bat for Wilson like her minder, defending her use of her words like it meant nothing (from her part).

Most posters are saying her language is fully intentional and it’s not semantics. At least I’m saying that and a few others too.

I agree that language matters, but IMO there are much bigger fish to fry than getting worked up about which verb Caro used and exactly how evil her intent might be - like BT getting the names of our players correct on the call.

 

[jmac70]

I’d like to be Maynard for a day.

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

I’d like to be Maynard for a day.

I'm not sure if his body could handle that much alcohol.

 

[sr36]

I agree that language matters, but IMO there are much bigger fish to fry than getting worked up about which verb Caro used and exactly how evil her intent might be - like BT getting the names of our players correct on the call.

Aren't you doing what you're being critical of?

 

[76woodenspooners]

Aren't you doing what you're being critical of?

No. I have no emotion about the verb Caro used. That’s been the point.

 

[sr36]

No. I have no emotion about the verb Caro used. That’s been the point.

I mean you're reacting to the vilification of Caro, which is as much a part of the game that Caro chooses to make money from as her vilification of Maynard is and those who respond to that.

Caro chooses to make money from a vilification game, it's a dangerous game with serious potential consequences for those she lines up - meanwhile the players she lines up choose to play footy. So if you are going to go into bat for one of the people getting vilified, why choose the one who chooses to be vilified to make money - the one holding and pulling the vilification strings, rather than the one who is just playing footy.

 

[76woodenspooners]

I mean you're reacting to the vilification of Caro, which is as much a part of the game that Caro chooses to make money from as her vilification of Maynard is and those who respond to that.

Caro chooses to make money from a vilification game, it's a dangerous game with serious potential consequences for those she lines up - meanwhile the players she lines up choose to play footy. So if you are going to go into bat for one of the people getting vilified, why choose the one who chooses to be vilified to make money - the one holding and pulling the vilification strings, rather than the one who is just playing footy.

We don’t generally play ‘whataboutism’ with our media folks and that’s a good thing.

WTF would Whately know about the way footy is played, he never played the game? And yet IMO he is one of the better footy journos to listen to. Other folks will have a different opinion.

The media folks either report, give opinions, provide analysis, provide info on background, or just make stuff up. We chose whether we want to believe (or not), agree (or not), understand (or not), ignore (or not) or laugh (or get furious). Their job is to engage us, and going by the reactions Caro usually gets, she’s damn good at getting people to engage.

 

[sr36]

We don’t generally play ‘whataboutism’ with our media folks and that’s a good thing.

WTF would Whately know about the way footy is played, he never played the game? And yet IMO he is one of the better footy journos to listen to. Other folks will have a different opinion.

The media folks either report, give opinions, provide analysis, provide info on background, or just make stuff up. We chose whether we want to believe (or not), agree (or not), understand (or not), ignore (or not) or laugh (or get furious). Their job is to engage us, and going by the reactions Caro usually gets, she’s damn good at getting people to engage.

Yes, like KK, she's damn good at getting people angry at either her target or herself

That's the game she chooses. Your posting on it suggests that the anger she generates and promotes towards players is all good - just her job - but are critical of the anger she draws upon herself.

But she's the one playing an unethical game - not the players - they're playing footy. And she's the one in control of the game.

 

[NMBB]

I mean you're reacting to the vilification of Caro, which is as much a part of the game that Caro chooses to make money from as her vilification of Maynard is and those who respond to that.

Caro chooses to make money from a vilification game, it's a dangerous game with serious potential consequences for those she lines up - meanwhile the players she lines up choose to play footy. So if you are going to go into bat for one of the people getting vilified, why choose the one who chooses to be vilified to make money - the one holding and pulling the vilification strings, rather than the one who is just playing footy.

I'd have no problem with C Wilson if she was known as a gossip columnist. She's not a football journalist like Jake Niall, Greg Baum etc.

Show me one of her articles where she analyses a team's game plan - a la Mick McGuane

 

[Zzorse]

WTF would Whately know about the way footy is played, he never played the game? And yet IMO he is one of the better footy journos to listen to. Other folks will have a different opinion.

I listen to Whately but wish he'd shut up about our Grand Final win and that umpire's call which he willfully refuses to get over.

 

[NMBB]

I listen to Whately but wish he'd shut up about our Grand Final win and that umpire's call which he willfully refuses to get over.

Just glorious that we win a close GF with a bit of umpiring controversy tossed in for good measure

 

[sideswipe]

I'd have no problem with C Wilson if she was known as a gossip columnist. She's not a football journalist like Jake Niall, Greg Baum etc.

Show me one of her articles where she analyses a team's game plan - a la Mick McGuane

I don’t particularly care for her but she has never held herself out as an “on-field” reporter. She has always been far more about reporting the off field machinations. Quite frankly, she didn’t really have a choice in this. She could never have made a career as an analyst.

Calling her a gossip columnist is wrong. She has broken many of the biggest stories of recent times. Once again, I don’t care for her.


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[Vicky Park]

I don’t particularly care for her but she has never held herself out as an “on-field” reporter. She has always been far more about reporting the off field machinations. Quite frankly, she didn’t really have a choice in this. She could never have made a career as an analyst.

Calling her a gossip columnist is wrong. She has broken many of the biggest stories of recent times. Once again, I don’t care for her.


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This is also my view of Caro. She has a place in footy journalism, and while I don’t always like where she goes, her contribution to footy media has some validity (like it or not).

As I keep reminding the Caro haters she won a Walkley Award (they don’t fall off the back of trucks) for her coverage of the Essendon drugs saga and old mate Hird’s role in that. She therefore has some credits in the bank.

 

[sr36]

I'd have no problem with C Wilson if she was known as a gossip columnist. She's not a football journalist like Jake Niall, Greg Baum etc.

Show me one of her articles where she analyses a team's game plan - a la Mick McGuane

She's a lot more than a gossip columnist. She's an excellent reporter of off field AFL stuff. But she chooses to have weekly columns and there's not enough to report on for that, so she steps into vilification mode to fill her columns because scandal and stuff ups is what she is good at reporting on.

This is one where she's stepped out of her lane and is actually reporting on and passing judgement on on-field decisions - Maynard's footballing actions.

 

[NMBB]

I don’t particularly care for her but she has never held herself out as an “on-field” reporter. She has always been far more about reporting the off field machinations. Quite frankly, she didn’t really have a choice in this. She could never have made a career as an analyst.

Calling her a gossip columnist is wrong. She has broken many of the biggest stories of recent times. Once again, I don’t care for her.


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In the interests of objectivity I will tone down the pejorative terminology and simply refer to Ms Wilson as a "journo offering limited value add on the AFL scene"

 

[jmac70]

Could be in trouble for the sling tackle.
Luckily no damage but it’ll be looked at.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Could be in trouble for the sling tackle.
Luckily no damage but it’ll be looked at.

If the boundary umpire had blown play dead the first time it went out, he wouldn’t have had to make that tackle.

I feel a bit sorry for Bruz; milestone games aren’t everything but we’re getting annihilated by the likely wooden spooners and can’t get our hands on the ball.

 

[Soups]

200th won’t be a memorable one for Bruzzy unfortunately.

 

[Soups]

200th won’t be a memorable one for Bruzzy unfortunately.

I was wrong. Lol

 

[CheckerTrade666]

This guys has the biggest balls out of anyone, even when we’re struggling he was still going at 200% and never giving up. Crucial spoil at the end and still kept going. ABSOLUTE FRIKEN LEGEND WITH THE BIGGEST BLOODY HEART for the team.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

I was wrong. Lol

Me too! And how!