Traded Braydon Preuss [traded with #62 to Melbourne for Tyson]

[Kangaroos4eva]

I think Preuss might just be smarter than people think.

He's 23. I think we say to him come to us for 2-3 years when we really need a solid back up as we develop 18 year olds. You'll play at Casey but even if Max is healthy we'll at least give you a couple of games when we rest Max and maybe a couple of games together if we have key forward injuries.

Plus you'll get taught by Max and Greg Stafford. By the end of the 2-3 years you'll know everything Max does. And we'll let you go to whatever club you want if you're playing like an AFL level starting ruck and have offers on the table.

I don't think there's a big money contract on the table for him from any club. He's not quite good enough to get the Nankervis/Jolly/Mumford back up ruck to starting deal straight up from a team.

NFL fans will be familiar with Jimmy Garoppolo who spent 3.5 years behind Tom Brady as his back up and played in all of about 2 games. He was traded to the 49ers, looked like a star and got the biggest contract extension of all time from them after 7 starts. Things are different over there but Jimmy G learnt from great coaches as the back up to the goat. Not saying Gawn is Tom Brady but he'd still be pretty handy to train against every day.

He would be waiting a lot less at North and learning from Goldstein/Minson (Both AA players) is just as good as learning from Gawn.

The move, if true, but a big if though, is true, then it's a really average move.

 

[Wild Bill]

I think Preuss might just be smarter than people think.

He's 23. I think we say to him come to us for 2-3 years when we really need a solid back up as we develop 18 year olds. You'll play at Casey but even if Max is healthy we'll at least give you a couple of games when we rest Max and maybe a couple of games together if we have key forward injuries.

Plus you'll get taught by Max and Greg Stafford. By the end of the 2-3 years you'll know everything Max does. And we'll let you go to whatever club you want if you're playing like an AFL level starting ruck and have offers on the table.

I don't think there's a big money contract on the table for him from any club. He's not quite good enough to get the Nankervis/Jolly/Mumford back up ruck to starting deal straight up from a team.

NFL fans will be familiar with Jimmy Garoppolo who spent 3.5 years behind Tom Brady as his back up and played in all of about 2 games. He was traded to the 49ers, looked like a star and got the biggest contract extension of all time from them after 7 starts. Things are different over there but Jimmy G learnt from great coaches as the back up to the goat. Not saying Gawn is Tom Brady but he'd still be pretty handy to train against every day.

What is the difference between get taught by Goldy & Minson or Gawn and Stafford? Not sure that is a point of difference.

He should get chances at North next year and become the number 1 ruck by 2020/21. Unless he can become the number 1 ruck at another team not sure whey he would move.

 

[Isaac Cumming No 1]

What is the difference between get taught by Goldy & Minson or Gawn and Stafford? Not sure that is a point of difference.

He should get chances at North next year and become the number 1 ruck by 2020/21. Unless he can become the number 1 ruck at another team not sure whey he would move.

We have a specialist ruck coach, in Mummy.

 

[master bate]

He would be waiting a lot less at North and learning from Goldstein/Minson (Both AA players) is just as good as learning from Gawn.

The move, if true, but a big if though, is true, then it's a really average move.

What is the difference between get taught by Goldy & Minson or Gawn and Stafford? Not sure that is a point of difference.

He should get chances at North next year and become the number 1 ruck by 2020/21. Unless he can become the number 1 ruck at another team not sure whey he would move.

Valid point, it's not a lot of difference. But if he feels he isn't happy at North then I'm looking at it from the position that if he is to leave Melbourne have something to offer even if it doesn't come with games. The Goldy/Minson combo might be great but it's still a fresh set of eyes. Maybe he's learnt all he can and wants some new teachers. Gawn really likes Preuss, so he'd probably give him more confidence than Goldy who was openly competing against him last year. Plus Gawn is a similar height, he can show him a similar style compared with Goldy who goes about it differently.

If Goldy stays in his current form for the next two years then I think he keeps the job. Rucks can play well in their early 30's. It's certainly outside the box thinking from Melbourne and Preuss but I see how a 2-3 year rental style deal could work for both parties, assuming there's not a club willing to make Preuss their starter right now.

I know North have stashed some salary cap but Polec at 700+ and Gaff at 1.2 surely means you're looking for savings as well. Are you sure North are all that keen to keep him?

 

[SpiderBurton22]

I know North have stashed some salary cap but Polec at 700+ and Gaff at 1.2 surely means you're looking for savings as well. Are you sure North are all that keen to keep him?

Money is no issue. He's looking for opportunities, which is why Melbourne would be a weird choice. North are reportably happy to move him on.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Valid point, it's not a lot of difference. But if he feels he isn't happy at North then I'm looking at it from the position that if he is to leave Melbourne have something to offer even if it doesn't come with games. The Goldy/Minson combo might be great but it's still a fresh set of eyes. Maybe he's learnt all he can and wants some new teachers. Gawn really likes Preuss, so he'd probably give him more confidence than Goldy who was openly competing against him last year. Plus Gawn is a similar height, he can show him a similar style compared with Goldy who goes about it differently.

If Goldy stays in his current form for the next two years then I think he keeps the job. Rucks can play well in their early 30's. It's certainly outside the box thinking from Melbourne and Preuss but I see how a 2-3 year rental style deal could work for both parties, assuming there's not a club willing to make Preuss their starter right now.

I know North have stashed some salary cap but Polec at 700+ and Gaff at 1.2 surely means you're looking for savings as well. Are you sure North are all that keen to keep him?

As BS said, money isn't the issue, opportunity is. North have front loaded a lot of contracts, so money isn't going to be an issue for a while.

 

[master bate]

As BS said, money isn't the issue, opportunity is. North have front loaded a lot of contracts, so money isn't going to be an issue for a while.

It's not that money is an issue, but more so if you have a chance to move a guy on that you're happy to move sometimes you take it. No amount of front loading can really leave you with a heap of cash if you pay close to 2 million a season for Gaff and Polec. The Dees still had plenty of salary cap space after signing Lever but took the chance to move Watts to give them more flexibility for this year and the next couple.

Melbourne can't offer opportunity but they can offer a bit of love to Preussy in that they want him and the reasons above is how I think they'd be selling it as a win for him.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

It's not that money is an issue, but more so if you have a chance to move a guy on that you're happy to move sometimes you take it. No amount of front loading can really leave you with a heap of cash if you pay close to 2 million a season for Gaff and Polec. The Dees still had plenty of salary cap space after signing Lever but took the chance to move Watts to give them more flexibility for this year and the next couple.

Melbourne can't offer opportunity but they can offer a bit of love to Preussy in that they want him and the reasons above is how I think they'd be selling it as a win for him.

Those Polec salary rumours have gone from 600k to 900k, so take them and the Gaff salary stuff with a grain of salt.

Why, we front loaded last year after the Dusty-Kelly failure and we have enough to offer without getting rid of any more players than we have. It's why we got rid of a serviceable player like Hartung and did our delistings nice and early. It won't be an issue until a year or two down the track as you can only front-load for so long and Goldstein is coming out of his massive contract, making things difficult.

It's purely opportunity; the Melbourne deal, no matter how you paint is just plain odd, unless you're going to plunk him in the forward line ala West Coast.

 

[Groin guru]

Early second should do it. Let the bidding commence

 

[Marc_Remillard]

Early second should do it. Let the bidding commence

Nice thought but it doesn't happen like that. Preuss will decide which club he wants and then a deal will be done.

Don't understand why he'd pick Melbourne though, he'd be behind a much better ruckman who is younger that the current bloke he's battling a spot with

 

[Uber Roo]

Nice thought but it doesn't happen like that. Preuss will decide which club he wants and then a deal will be done.

Don't understand why he'd pick Melbourne though, he'd be behind a much better ruckman who is younger that the current bloke he's battling a spot with

Preuss is still contracted , so his choice of club isn’t entirely up to him.
North have invested a lot of time into him, so something decent must come back, otherwise we keep him, no probs


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[Marc_Remillard]

Preuss is still contracted , so his choice of club isn’t entirely up to him.
North have invested a lot of time into him, so something decent must come back, otherwise we keep him, no probs


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So you think Roos are a chance to trade him to a club that he doesn't want to go to?

 

[master bate]

Those Polec salary rumours have gone from 600k to 900k, so take them and the Gaff salary stuff with a grain of salt.

Why, we front loaded last year after the Dusty-Kelly failure and we have enough to offer without getting rid of any more players than we have. It's why we got rid of a serviceable player like Hartung and did our delistings nice and early. It won't be an issue until a year or two down the track as you can only front-load for so long and Goldstein is coming out of his massive contract, making things difficult.

It's purely opportunity; the Melbourne deal, no matter how you paint is just plain odd, unless you're going to plunk him in the forward line ala West Coast.

Certainly all traded players salaries are grain of salt stuff. But doesn't Polec stay at Port unless it's pretty good money? And won't the Eagles match Gaff if it's not pretty hefty as well? One way or another if you get both it's a lot of cash.

Front loading Brown, Ziebell, Cunnington, Goldy, Tarrant, Higgins I get. Although how far can you stretch it for those A grade types? And pushing out depth. But there's still some handy guys coming out of contract at North aren't there like Jacobs, Wright and Anderson? Plus a number of B or C graders like McMillan, McDonald, Atley, Wood, Williams etc. Ahern, Dumont, Simpkin surely want more next deal?

I guess what I'm saying is if North can bring in 2 very good players on big salaries only by frontloading and pushing out guys like Hartung AND still have a strong cap position for the end of 2019 then what they heck are Carlton or Gold Coast or the Saints doing!

Port Adelaide were rumoured to have a great cap position last year, signed Watts, Motlop and Rockliff for a combined amount that is probably was similar to Polec/Gaff and a 300k depth player this year and now are apparently pretty tight on the cap. It might not be Preuss but I can see North moving on at least 1 guy more than just chopping Hartung and winding up Waite to make some savings.

 

[OnceKicked50]

Herald Sun reporting he has asked to be traded to the Demons.

Bizarre - Gawn is 4 years younger than Goldy and the best ruck in the comp.

If this is true it make no sense at all. Goldy will turn 31 next year.

If North seriously think he is their ruck of the future they should grow a pair and move Goldy on. West Coast might be willing to part with a decent pick or player for instance.

However, if this isn't being discussed perhaps Pruess isn't really anything more then a backup.

 

[SpiderBurton22]

If this is true it make no sense at all. Goldy will turn 31 next year.

If North seriously think he is their ruck of the future they should grow a pair and move Goldy on. West Coast might be willing to part with a decent pick or player for instance.

However, if this isn't being discussed perhaps Pruess isn't really anything more then a backup.

I think it's a pretty mutual break up.

 

[Kenny Dee]

Surely a move to Adelaide would suit him? Sauce has one year left

 

[naturally north]

If this is true it make no sense at all. Goldy will turn 31 next year.

If North seriously think he is their ruck of the future they should grow a pair and move Goldy on. West Coast might be willing to part with a decent pick or player for instance.

However, if this isn't being discussed perhaps Pruess isn't really anything more then a backup.

There has been plenty of players over the journey released from their original club that have brilliant careers. Goldy has four seasons left in him, we really rate Xerri and have Maj who can also ruck.

With us ball deep into Gaff, Hall and Polec it would be a strange move to release Goldy now, Preuss won't cost anyone the earth and.will.not.be.at.North.in.2019

 

[OnceKicked50]

There has been plenty of players over the journey released from their original club that have brilliant careers. Goldy has four seasons left in him, we really rate Xerri and have Maj who can also ruck.

With us ball deep into Gaff, Hall and Polec it would be a strange move to release Goldy now, Preuss won't cost anyone the earth and.will.not.be.at.North.in.2019

Haha. Sorry mate, I stopped reading when you said Goldstein has four seasons left.

 

[GUMBLETRON]

There has been plenty of players over the journey released from their original club that have brilliant careers.

There have also been plenty of Daniel Curries.

 

[naturally north]

Haha. Sorry mate, I stopped reading when you said Goldstein has four seasons left.

You think we don't believe that, not sure what has happened to BF, Goldy just turned 30. Will have a chat in four years?

There have also been plenty of Daniel Curries.

Don't disagree and Preuss will cost five fifths of bugger all.

 

[Wild Bill]

Haha. Sorry mate, I stopped reading when you said Goldstein has four seasons left.

Is playing to 34 that big of a stretch? Goldy has been really durable. Sandi is 36 next year.

 

[schmuttt]

Why does he want to leave? Has he had a falling out with Scott?

I mean I'd take him because there probably isn't a better backup in the competition, but as everyone has said the move makes zero sense for Preuss.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Why does he want to leave? Has he had a falling out with Scott?

I mean I'd take him because there probably isn't a better backup in the competition, but as everyone has said the move makes zero sense for Preuss.

Not the issue, Scott's relationship with his players is one of his few good coaching qualities; Pruess wants AFL games now.

 

[Dez!]

Not the issue, Scott's relationship with his players is one of his few good coaching qualities; Pruess wants AFL games now.

Coming to Melbourne makes no sense.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Coming to Melbourne makes no sense.

Exactly, which is why it looks like the media is completely wrong about this one, again.