Coaching Staff Brendon Bolton - Senior Coach - Locked in until end of 2020 (23/5/18)

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Why is Carlton under the pump when Melbourne and St Kilda are supposed to be 2-3 years ahead of us in their rebuilds?

Did Denham look at the total turn over of players? Does is have no regard for list stability?

These types of articles would hurt more if we didn't already know Denham is a meat head of the highest order.
 

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Why is Carlton under the pump when Melbourne and St Kilda are supposed to be 2-3 years ahead of us in their rebuilds?

Did Denham look at the total turn over of players? Does is have no regard for list stability?

These types of articles would hurt more if we didn't already know Denham is a meat head of the highest order.
he asked and said same things last year.. he's been a campaigner vs bolts from the get-go.
 

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Idiotic analysis, that overlooks the reason why Geelong's age/games stats are skewed:

- Their oldest regular players were missing
- They were replaced by 4-6th year players who have played shit all games
- The rest of the inexperience came from re-drafted, recycled and mature age recruits save for 4 recent U18 recruits, two of which were top 30 selections

If you drew up a couple of graphs to show this, you'd see how different the data is to the averages.
 
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Is it worth getting Boltin off the “on staff” model and giver him a contract to at least the end of next year.

It seems clear the board are going to back as they should so it might quieten media Lynch mob. Nothing gets the media frothing at the mouth like a possible coach sacking.
 

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So Nathan Buckley nearly gets sacked last year and media jump on that bandwagon then he gets an extension and they start playing well media does an about turn and jumps on THAT bandwagon.Most media scribes pick Carlton to finish bottom this year and when we lose our first 6 games media then jump on the Bolton’s under pressure line.Fricken media love driving negative stories.Shits me no end.Its a FRICKEN full blown re build forget what’s happened before Bolton’s time.Concentrate on the now,stay the course.IF this was the old Carlton heads would’ve rolled by now but it’s not.Deal with it.
 
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Bolton is safe for the next 2-3 years atleast. Can't expect much with the current state of our list being so inexperienced and being highlighted further with the injuries we currently have.

There's a plan in place and our youngsters are progressing well. I have no doubts that we are going to be a very good football team in a couple of years
 

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Is it worth getting Boltin off the “on staff” model and giver him a contract to at least the end of next year.

It seems clear the board are going to back as they should so it might quieten media Lynch mob. Nothing gets the media frothing at the mouth like a possible coach sacking.
Given that the board are the ones who clearly pushed the football department and the playing group to going radically towards an attacking game plan, I think they should definitely sit down and shut the **** up.

We need to address what's causing the mounting injuries (though they are receding), and someone's going to get fired there IMO (finally), but the internal push to play such an unbalanced game style needs to stop (and seemingly has).

The next step is for Bolton and the MC to stop making insane decisions under pressure, such as selecting O'Shea as your 4th or 5th tall/medium defensive option. We mostly did it with White out of desperation, but now we've developed way more options and we should trust them rather than scrape the bottom of the barrel for a like-for-like part of some 'perfect' structure.
 

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Given that the board are the ones who clearly pushed the football department and the playing group to going radically towards an attacking game plan, I think they should definitely sit down and shut the **** up.

We need to address what's causing the mounting injuries (though they are receding), and someone's going to get fired there IMO (finally), but the internal push to play such an unbalanced game style needs to stop (and seemingly has).

The next step is for Bolton and the MC to stop making insane decisions under pressure, such as selecting O'Shea as your 4th or 5th tall/medium defensive option. We mostly did it with White out of desperation, but now we've developed way more options and we should trust them rather than scrape the bottom of the barrel for a like-for-like part of some 'perfect' structure.
Agree with all of this.
 

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Bolton is safe for the next 2-3 years atleast. Can't expect much with the current state of our list being so inexperienced and being highlighted further with the injuries we currently have.

There's a plan in place and our youngsters are progressing well. I have no doubts that we are going to be a very good football team in a couple of years
1st - Let’s hope the club are aware the negativity currently running through our supporter group and can keep the memberships and crowd numbers together, including the list. For mine, due to our past 20 years, big alarm bells already ringing. Did you know Charlie is being sweet talked by a team that hasn’t missed the finals for 20 years?

2nd - There must be no doubts within the club that we have this plan right. The club must get this right. The very reason many supporters are concerned, it’s that they don’t believe we have it right. No pressure, right?
 

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Given that the board are the ones who clearly pushed the football department and the playing group to going radically towards an attacking game plan, I think they should definitely sit down and shut the **** up.

We need to address what's causing the mounting injuries (though they are receding), and someone's going to get fired there IMO (finally), but the internal push to play such an unbalanced game style needs to stop (and seemingly has).

The next step is for Bolton and the MC to stop making insane decisions under pressure, such as selecting O'Shea as your 4th or 5th tall/medium defensive option. We mostly did it with White out of desperation, but now we've developed way more options and we should trust them rather than scrape the bottom of the barrel for a like-for-like part of some 'perfect' structure.
Jim, surely you understand why the board and members wanted more attack, right?
If not, I’ll help, it’s called prime time TV, sponsorship and membership dollars.!!!
Bolton’s attacking game is embarrasing. That was/is the problem.
We guarded space, yet left acres free - we were looser in the backline than......
 

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Given that the board are the ones who clearly pushed the football department and the playing group to going radically towards an attacking game plan, I think they should definitely sit down and shut the **** up.

We need to address what's causing the mounting injuries (though they are receding), and someone's going to get fired there IMO (finally), but the internal push to play such an unbalanced game style needs to stop (and seemingly has).

The next step is for Bolton and the MC to stop making insane decisions under pressure, such as selecting O'Shea as your 4th or 5th tall/medium defensive option. We mostly did it with White out of desperation, but now we've developed way more options and we should trust them rather than scrape the bottom of the barrel for a like-for-like part of some 'perfect' structure.
This is a big statement. Don't call it unless it's fact. Is it a FACT Jimmae?

If the board are dictating what our development path is going to be, we haven't learned anything at all.
 
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Bolton is safe for the next 2-3 years atleast. Can't expect much with the current state of our list being so inexperienced and being highlighted further with the injuries we currently have.

There's a plan in place and our youngsters are progressing well. I have no doubts that we are going to be a very good football team in a couple of years
What's your opinion if we are 0-12 at the bye?
 
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Given that the board are the ones who clearly pushed the football department and the playing group to going radically towards an attacking game plan, I think they should definitely sit down and shut the **** up.

We need to address what's causing the mounting injuries (though they are receding), and someone's going to get fired there IMO (finally), but the internal push to play such an unbalanced game style needs to stop (and seemingly has).

The next step is for Bolton and the MC to stop making insane decisions under pressure, such as selecting O'Shea as your 4th or 5th tall/medium defensive option. We mostly did it with White out of desperation, but now we've developed way more options and we should trust them rather than scrape the bottom of the barrel for a like-for-like part of some 'perfect' structure.
just on the statement re the board involvement in the footy dept ... do you know this as a fact or are you gleaning it from Judd's comments (something along the lines of the switch to an attacking style being the right thing to do)?

agree with the "imbalance" sentiment ... and the concern over soft tissue injuries
 

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1st - Let’s hope the club are aware the negativity currently running through our supporter group and can keep the memberships and crowd numbers together, including the list. For mine, due to our past 20 years, big alarm bells already ringing. Did you know Charlie is being sweet talked by a team that hasn’t missed the finals for 20 years?

2nd - There must be no doubts within the club that we have this plan right. The club must get this right. The very reason many supporters are concerned, it’s that they don’t believe we have it right. No pressure, right?
Which team are sweet talking him? Sydney?
 

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Jim, surely you understand why the board and members wanted more attack, right?
If not, I’ll help, it’s called prime time TV, sponsorship and membership dollars.!!!
Bolton’s attacking game is embarrasing. That was/is the problem.
We guarded space, yet left acres free - we were looser in the backline than......
Read the first lines of my post again, then read the response below if you're still struggling.

This is a big statement. Don't call it unless it's fact. Is it a FACT Jimmae?

If the board are dictating what our development path is going to be, we haven't learned anything at all.
It's been mentioned by several well-versed posters that there was an internal discussion as to how far the team should go with developing their attacking phases and that the board was placing pressure to provide something that is more marketable.

goreds actually threw in some of this info half-looking to seek feedback, to which I told him at the time they should be working on balancing the attacking phases into the existing game plan rather than going all-out in attack just to develop that subset of their structures. Instead, we played for shoot outs with a notable injury list and shitty spare parts and subsequently were blown out of the water.

I'm sure if a journalist of any repute wanted to tug some strings that they will find this to be true, but note that the board did not make the final decision, they simply campaigned hard to see how we'd look with caution thrown to the wind for a few early rounds as we drive for membership.

The plan actually worked from AFLX until round 2, but it can be argued that what we gained compared to a more sensible approach, we'll lose next year if this rot continues.
 

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It's been mentioned by several well-versed posters that there was an internal discussion as to how far the team should go with developing their attacking phases and that the board was placing pressure to provide something that is more marketable.

goreds actually threw in some of this info half-looking to seek feedback, to which I told him at the time they should be working on balancing the attacking phases into the existing game plan rather than going all-out in attack just to develop that subset of their structures. Instead, we played for shoot outs with a notable injury list and shitty spare parts and subsequently were blown out of the water.

I'm sure if a journalist of any repute wanted to tug some strings that they will find this to be true, but note that the board did not make the final decision, they simply campaigned hard to see how we'd look with caution thrown to the wind for a few early rounds as we drive for membership.

The plan actually worked from AFLX until round 2, but it can be argued that what we gained compared to a more sensible approach, we'll lose next year if this rot continues.
If (I have to use the word if) the board applied pressure onto the football department to change their approach.........what can one say?

I understand the want to see a more attacking football style, but it has to come about at the right time and only the coaches should ever make that call and especially so given we're effectively nurturing the majority of the squad. We can't just be turning the tap on and off and when things down't work out.....guess whose head gets placed on the chopping block?

Maybe Bolton went along with the notion, but if he did against his own common sense, then he's doing it wrong also.
 

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If (I have to use the word if) the board applied pressure onto the football department to change their approach.........what can one say?

I understand the want to see a more attacking football style, but it has to come about at the right time and only the coaches should ever make that call and especially so given we're effectively nurturing the majority of the squad. We can't just be turning the tap on and off and when things down't work out.....guess whose head gets placed on the chopping block?

Maybe Bolton went along with the notion, but if he did against his own common sense, then he's doing it wrong also.
Please stop ignoring half of what I'm saying for the sake of your own agenda.
 
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