Yeah I know. What amazes me is the amount of self-congratulation among the Bulldogs players (i.e. keep calling each other "as good as Judd"), their supporters, and their adoring footy media, despite the fact they have actually achieved zip, and have a pathetic no success history. Their midsized-player-only-chip-kick uncontested game plan always comes unstuck in the big games (e.g. that Subi final), where power KP forwards are required, and ability to win the contested ball is paramount.