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Brexit - The UK referendum on leaving the EU

Discussion in 'International Events and Politics' started by MaddAdam, Dec 21, 2015.

Put it out there
  1. Bomberboyokay

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    Can count on my fingers how many times I've been to Bunnings in the last 5 years. If I ever get to a point in life where going there every weekend is the highlight of my week, please kill me.
     
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    Leave means leave unless the EU want to remove two of their agencies are relocate them to countries that haven't triggered Article 50.

    Then leaving is optional.
     
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    SBYM I don't want any of your blasted tapes!

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    hahaha!! I feel exactly the same.

    My missus ******* loves it...
     
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    The EU grateful and playing by the rules as always. Cant imagine why anyone wanted to leave.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...-half-a-trillion-pounds-to-EU-since-1973.html

    Britain has contributed nearly half a trillion pounds to the European Union budget since it joined in 1973 and will have to pay a further £100 billion in the next five years.
     
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    EU eyes years of Brexit payments, immigration - document

     
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    The EU's stance is clearly to force GB into a full on hard Brexit.

    There's no way any British PM can sign a check for Euro60b before negotiations even start, especially as they mention British liabilities but no mention of British share of common assets which is probably bigger than the liabilities especially as that's a figure plucked out of thin air.

    Then they want a guarantee on a soft border between Eire and NI which of course is completely impossible for all sorts of smuggling and security reasons

    Then giving Spain a final veto on Gibraltar.

    And also making European Court of Justice final arbiter of any agreement.

    Then you have Denmark laying claim to a right to fish British waters even after they've left EU.

    Also demanding Britain cover costs for moving finance and medicine bureaucratic HQs from London.

    Whole point of Brexit was to regain sovereignty.

    The thing that is obviously most upsetting to individual countries is the competitiveness that the low pound is giving British exports. A soft Brexit would probably see a rise in its value but the EU are always oblivious to those kind of effects and are backing GB into a corner and hard Brexit would see pound fall to 1.15 to USD at least, possibly all the way down to parity.

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    The UK is doing a good job forcing itself into a hard Brexit. It's like the last 70 years didn't happen for large numbers of the May Government.

    The EU, with not necessarily vindictive motivations, has every reason to offer the UK the shittest possible outcome. Idiots (and racists) stuck in the Cold War may think otherwise but the UK needs a "good" deal with the EU way, way more than the EU needs it. The EU27 know this as they aren't braindead. To paraphrase somebody else: It's not poker when all the other players know what your ******* cards are.
     
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    The snags are mint.
     
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    You really are clueless. WTO option is probably the best outcome for the UK given its service dominated sector. As for racists, yep sure, free movemement for white people and restrictions on coloured folk isnt racist is it?

    FFS. UK has been in the EU how long? People are well aware of the MASSIVE amount of funds that UK govts has given to the EU. And to think they want to give the UK a "bill". Yep, ok, that seems "fair".

    Yes, because the EURO has been such a good idea! The EU is terrified that the UK will drop its corp tax to 10% and take lions share of FDI.
     

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    So the EU has ratified the negotiation terms for Brexit. They've had it ready for months and agreed unanimously in a matter of minutes.

    Financial Times journo David Allen Green is worth following on Brexit. He's describing what is in essence "Brexit by timetable". The EU are setting the terms.



     
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    Juncker tells May he is '10 times more sceptical than before' on Brexit

     
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    It will be interesting to see how they deal with the rights of EU citizens in the U.K. and vice versa.
     
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    UK offered to sort it already and Germans knocked them back. Its become very obvious that the net recipients dont want any cut in their EU payments and Germany doesnt want to pay a cent more. Hence massive so called "exit bill". Poms have huge leverage over this and know it.

    Laughable that Juncker and go think May would agree to paying them huge cash with no guarantees on a trade deal.

    Rubbish trade deal and pay £50bn or WTO plus Canada, Oz and US trade deals and keep cash? No brainer.

    I reckon the Germans will fold on trade and free movement and the Brits will fold on cash (and a bit on free movement) despite typical French efforts at being campaingners.
     
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    Gough Plugger35

    Cool Britannia: where did it all go wrong?

     
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    Where did it all wrong? People realised that Blair was just an upmarket version of Obama. Good at slogans but clueless on policy and basically just full of shit.
     
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    Is that your way of saying a ' Liberalized, Corporatized, lick-spittle lackey'?

    I'll be surprised if BREXIT ever actually goes ahead.....Since when did the people decide on a nations fate, after all.
     
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    It will go ahead and May and co will blame Brussels, Berlin, Paris, anything and everything on the mainland when it inevitably is a ******* disaster.
     
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    London aint gonna be quite what it used to be.
     
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    Great Britain was fine before BREXIT & it'll do just fine after it.

    Last I checked, it's the Euro's who are doing everything to block stall & punish the U.K for it.
     
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    Doesn't seem that Europe hates the UK if eurovision popular vote is anything to go by.

    Probably helped that their act was not the tripe they have dished out traditionally.
     
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    Id say the UK is the place most likely for people to NOT get what they voted for.

    Sounds like you could get the tories to be pro europe if they could have fox hunting back
     
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    If??

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