Society/Culture Brighton Melbourne terror

Remove this Banner Ad

Forward Press said:
Not that I know of. We have been arming them, though, certainly.
Click to expand...

SA have moved into arms manufacture themselves. It would be great if the west took themselves out of meddling in the ME and refused to arm them but there's China and Russia (who was meddling in the ME long before we even appeared) I'm sure more than willing to step in if we don't. I have a real issue with SA being such a close ally, whose record for womens and human rights is appalling being appointed to prime positions in the UN, chairing human and womens rights boards. The only thing they've got going for them is relative stability in a noxious petrodollar swamp.

Sure we all regret Iraq and a lot of us here were politically active against but we went anyway, can't turn back the clock. As for there being peace in the ME, no. The Armenian Genocide alone killed 1.5 million, predominantly Christians.

Ottoman Wars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Battles_involving_the_Ottoman_Empire

Timeline of Iranian History: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Iranian_history#18th_century
 
shellyg said:
SA have moved into arms manufacture themselves. It would be great if the west took themselves out of meddling in the ME and refused to arm them but there's China and Russia (who was meddling in the ME long before we even appeared) I'm sure more than willing to step in if we don't. I have a real issue with SA being such a close ally, whose record for womens and human rights is appalling being appointed to prime positions in the UN, chairing human and womens rights boards. The only thing they've got going for them is relative stability in a noxious petrodollar swamp.

Sure we all regret Iraq and a lot of us here were politically active against but we went anyway, can't turn back the clock. As for there being peace in the ME, no. The Armenian Genocide alone killed 1.5 million, predominantly Christians.

Ottoman Wars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Battles_involving_the_Ottoman_Empire

Timeline of Iranian History: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Iranian_history#18th_century
Click to expand...

Turkey might've been the best bet if we had to support an Islamic regional power - we can overlook genocides if they don't affect western interests, that's the reality, not saying it's right or wrong - but with its increasing Islamisation and drift away from the EU that might be a ship that has sailed. They would also brutally suppress any Kurdish independence movement, so there's that too. It wasn't that long ago that it was regarded as a model of secularism and westernisation in the region.

Saudi Arabia is crap, Iran isn't much better, Iraq is a quagmire of competing factional interests - really let's just back Jordan and Israel and hope for the best.
 
medusala said:
A hiring spree of public servants at massive expensive isn't exactly something to be applauded.
Click to expand...

You would know, living in London for the last however many decades
 

Log in to remove this ad.

Forward Press said:
Person was Muslim and declared allegiance to IS and al Qaeda.
Click to expand...

Anyone with the most basic knowledge of these things understands how this very statement shows how the attacker clearly isn't a proper terrorist.

Al Qaeda and Daesh are mortal enemies and have fought bloody battles in Syria.
 
MaddAdam said:
Anyone with the most basic knowledge of these things understands how this very statement shows how the attacker clearly isn't a proper terrorist.

Al Qaeda and Daesh are mortal enemies and have fought bloody battles in Syria.
Click to expand...

Won't stop the media and some on here referring to it as such though.

In the past this would be called a hostage situation.
 
MaddAdam said:
Anyone with the most basic knowledge of these things understands how this very statement shows how the attacker clearly isn't a proper terrorist.

Al Qaeda and Daesh are mortal enemies and have fought bloody battles in Syria.
Click to expand...

Both groups are militant Islamists in an area that's a hornets nest of shifting alliances, anybody that knows the absolute truth of it all imo is a genius. I'll stick with the theory of meddling by the US and regional allies covertly assisting in the creation of the Free Syria Army expected to topple Assad and losing control. The jihadists and hardline Islamists seized the opportunity and ISIS was created. That wasn't in the plan.
 
Last edited:
Forward Press said:
Turkey might've been the best bet if we had to support an Islamic regional power - we can overlook genocides if they don't affect western interests, that's the reality, not saying it's right or wrong - but with its increasing Islamisation and drift away from the EU that might be a ship that has sailed. They would also brutally suppress any Kurdish independence movement, so there's that too. It wasn't that long ago that it was regarded as a model of secularism and westernisation in the region.

Saudi Arabia is crap, Iran isn't much better, Iraq is a quagmire of competing factional interests - really let's just back Jordan and Israel and hope for the best.
Click to expand...
No thanks.
 
herculez09 said:
A pretty disgusting nation, really.

I don't know though. I think it's time to concede the world is too ****** up to save.
Click to expand...

As disgusting and hypocritical Israel is, the reality is that it's one of the better bets in the region if you had to throw your weight behind one.

Not that it's a bragging point.
 
herculez09 said:
A pretty disgusting nation, really.

I don't know though. I think it's time to concede the world is too ****** up to save.
Click to expand...
The world yes.

Australia has half a chance and its why we need to make sure our loose, socialist morons are held accountable for treachery.

There's not many quality, functioning countries left and even with our traitors, we should try and make Australia decent for at least a few generations after the baby boomers die out.
 
Forward Press said:
As disgusting and hypocritical Israel is, the reality is that it's one of the better bets in the region if you had to throw your weight behind one.

Not that it's a bragging point.
Click to expand...

It's not because pretty sure we all know what the Israeli Army and the settlers are doing but electing Hamas was the worst thing that could have happened for the plight of Palestinian Gazans, for the cause it's great they're being used to fuel anti semitism which is rising all over the world. History repeats as the Jew always knew it would at some point and it's pushing more into Israel making the situation worse as they're accommodated.
 
strung_out7 said:
So by your logic, Australia isn't the birthplace of aboriginals. New Zealand isn't the birthplace of Maoris.

Keep it up emu, these people just show how stupid they really are
Click to expand...

Australia as we know NOW is the birthplace of aboriginals ofcourse. But i am not stupid enough to admit colonial australia is the birth place of aboriginals. Is USA the birthplace of Indians? yes cause we have invaded their countries and destroyed their identity. People know this country as Australia now. But ask yourself is the same Australia/USA then? ofcourse not. You can play verbal gymnastics all you want, but the fact remains saudi arabia =wahaabism. The country is named after a family! ffs... Less than 0.5% Muslims support wahaabism, so how is it REAL islam? if its real islam why arent Muslims supporting wahaabism?
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

MaddAdam said:
You would know, living in London for the last however many decades
Click to expand...

I return on a regular basis in any event the facts are hardly disputable

NB doesnt stop peanuts talking utter nonsense on UK election / terror threads

Al Qaeda and Daesh are mortal enemies and have fought bloody battles in Syria
Click to expand...

Membership of such groups can be pretty fluid. Arabs are known for swapping sides when it suits them (or they are paid enough). Ask Obama - one minute they are moderate freedom fighters and the next terrorists.
 
shellyg said:
It's not because pretty sure we all know what the Israeli Army and the settlers are doing but electing Hamas was the worst thing that could have happened for the plight of Palestinian Gazans, for the cause it's great they're being used to fuel anti semitism which is rising all over the world. History repeats as the Jew always knew it would at some point and it's pushing more into Israel making the situation worse as they're accommodated.
Click to expand...

For the fundamentalist Zionists,it's about squeezing as many chosen peoples back into the promised land which brings on the true messiah and the apocalypse.
Funded by mainly wealthy American Jews,like Kushner.
 
chelseacarlton said:
For the fundamentalist Zionists,it's about squeezing as many chosen peoples back into the promised land which brings on the true messiah and the apocalypse.
Funded by mainly wealthy American Jews,like Kushner.
Click to expand...

That's the thing the fundies seem to have in common, aside from being massive bigots who think they're special is they're all hanging out for armageddon.
 
Thats Wright said:
The world yes.

Australia has half a chance and its why we need to make sure our loose, socialist morons are held accountable for treachery.

There's not many quality, functioning countries left and even with our traitors, we should try and make Australia decent for at least a few generations after the baby boomers die out.
Click to expand...
You see the Left as traitors to the nation?
 
Raids in Ascot Vale by police this morning. Media are suggesting links to the Brighton cowardly event.

Whoops. Already mentioned above.
 
chelseacarlton said:
For the fundamentalist Zionists,it's about squeezing as many chosen peoples back into the promised land which brings on the true messiah and the apocalypse.
Funded by mainly wealthy American Jews,like Kushner.
Click to expand...
You know thats a christian wackos theory funded and supported by the christian right? Jews have to be back mostly in israel, messiah comes down converts them or kills them. Rapture etc

The jewish view is very different
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Remove this Banner Ad

Back
Top