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I don't know his exact motivations. I can only guess he wasn't happy it happened and/or wasn't happy with the follow up response to the players not liking it. All it did was cause the issue to never end though.Y tho?
That's what people were saying about Eddie
The difference between us and those sides is since losing Roo, Macca, Edwards etc we're never going to have a really classy midfield because we won't have the picks and drawing power to get them.And potentially it has been a waste of resources seeing how little premiership sides have relied on small forwards offensive production (only 1 premier in the past 10 years has had a small kick more then 35 goals). That said, we're lucky that Eddie has only ever cost us salary space, had massive payoff elsewhere, and even then was only ~ 100k off the mean salary. Easily some of the best business this club has ever done despite that initial complaint.
Rankine however will completely blow the Eddie deal out of the water, and I wouldn't pay what it is going to cost for Rankine for a young Eddie, even with the benefit of hindsight. That'll be a price where he has to be a star midfielder to justify it, no ifs, no buts.
I can't imagine him and Burton would have gotten on that well.I don't know his exact motivations. I can only guess he wasn't happy it happened and/or wasn't happy with the follow up response to the players not liking it. All it did was cause the issue to never end though.
The difference between us and those sides is since losing Roo, Macca, Edwards etc we're never going to have a really classy midfield because we won't have the picks and drawing power to get them.
We'll have more of a grunt midfield, good extractors but questionable spenders, so the question then is what is it worth to have a mercurial small forward who can turn nothing entries into goals on a regular basis?
I don't think crows fans are ready to go back to having second rate small forwards. We've seen the difference forward class makes to us.
If we can get brilliant mids then brilliant forwards probably aren't so crucial. But if not, then brilliant forwards are the next best way to kick goals.
I disagree, classy midfields aren't consigned to the top 5 picks, nor we don't have the drawing power for them (Gibbs).
I would argue we're beginning to get the pieces for a very classy midfield together seeing Milera, Jones, and Gallucci are all long term midfielders.
What is it worth - difficult to say, not as much as most people would argue I feel, seeing small forwards are really a defensive position first and foremost, and to have someone who can create something out of nothing is really a luxury.
i'm decently excited about Stengle, whilst I seriously doubt he'll be as good as Betts, that boy has bit about him.
Goals aren't the be all and end all either.
Gibbs has done three fifths of fcuk all since coming over. He came home to raise sproglets, not because we have drawing power.
In fact Gibbs' career is a clear indicator that we lack drawing power compared to Melbourne-based clubs, even the shittest of them.
Don't look at rankine as being a small forward for his whole career..when he gets his AFL tank he has elite outside mid written all over him with his speed, evasiveness and incredible skillset. I see him as future andy mcleod typeI disagree, classy midfields aren't consigned to the top 5 picks, nor we don't have the drawing power for them (Gibbs). That said, naturally, it comes down to drafting for the right traits, development, good structures and luck. I would argue we're beginning to get the pieces for a very classy midfield together seeing Milera, Jones, and Gallucci are all long term midfielders. Equally, Roo and Edwards were much more brutish then seriously classy (not to say they didn't have class about them). Mind you, you've hit the nail on the head as to why the expectation would be on Rankine to be that, picks and drawing power. For the price we'd have to pay, it would be the only way we'd be able to get a good return on it.
What is it worth - difficult to say, not as much as most people would argue I feel, seeing small forwards are really a defensive position first and foremost, and to have someone who can create something out of nothing is really a luxury. It's never going to be something which will bridge a gap however seeing it is rather unreliable and because of that isn't worth a lot of investment into. On that note, i'm decently excited about Stengle, whilst I seriously doubt he'll be as good as Betts, that boy has bit about him.
Crows fans probably won't, but when has it mattered if we can or can't go back? You certainly don't waste what will end up being a top 3 pick, or two firsts + easily 700k per year to try and replace a small forward (And that is what we are staring down the barrel currently with Rankine). That's bad list management.
Goals aren't the be all and end all either. If you can't have a powerful midfield, the next best step is to try to bridge the gap defensively, and negate.
Gibbs has done three fifths of fcuk all since coming over. He came home to raise sproglets, not because we have drawing power.
In fact Gibbs' career is a clear indicator that we lack drawing power compared to Melbourne-based clubs, even the shittest of them.
This is all incredibly optimistic and seeing far into the future. Even if they all morph into elite mids we will still have 2-3 years to cover without Eddie turning water into wine at the goalfront.
The bolded is what you would pay Rankine for. The rest is Petrenko
Never fired a shot at Richmond. We picked him up for pick 68. See: Petrenko.
In a game decided by goals, they certainly help.
Don't look at rankine as being a small forward for his whole career..when he gets his AFL tank he has elite outside mid written all over him with his speed, evasiveness and incredible skillset. I see him as future andy mcleod type
I think he is already a sure thing if you look at how his junior career tracked and how he has already caught the eye on the GC. If it cost us the Carlton 1st to get him this year I would do it in a heartbeat unless he gets struck down with terrible injury. He is going to be a superstar of the comp and the earlier we could get him the better. Absolute elite end quality does not grow on treesOh my problem isn't what Rankine will develop into. My problem is people wanting to piss away a lot of collateral to replace a small forward. Rankine would have to become that elite outside mid for us to break even if we made a deal for him in the next 2 years.
Duly noted and bookmarked re Tyson Stengle.Never fired a shot at Richmond. We picked him up for pick 68. See: Petrenko.
How many 20-22 year olds do you know that want to move back to Adelaide after being in Victoria for 2-4 years?This is a fantasy thread. We never seem to entice SA players back unlike the Vic clubs with Vic kids. Gibbs came back on massive overs considering his age. We needed him in his prime. Betts was a bargain in hindsight.
If you were talking about a Vic club then I would agree but given its a Qld club I feel there is a chance....maybe a very slim chance but never the less a chance.We are never getting Rankine. Never ever
That's my point. Too uh to offer over there compared to Adelaide. They can set up a player for life with more opportunities.How many 20-22 year olds do you know that want to move back to Adelaide after being in Victoria for 2-4 years?
Not sure how when we only have Fogarty and Himmelberg as potential forwards vs the plethora of mids and small forwards.Rankine is more important to us than Lukosius in terms of getting onto the list as soon as possible, but if Luko bombs development wise up in GC then he'll come alot cheaper.
Jordan Butts whilst we probably had defence more in mind when we drafted him played quite a bit up forward for the Murray Bushrangers especially last season and played up forward kicking 2 goals in the Shepparton Bears 2018 A grade Grand Final win in the Goulburn Valley Football League. He's definitely capable at both ends.Not sure how when we only have Fogarty and Himmelberg as potential forwards vs the plethora of mids and small forwards.
A good percentage of those cases (IMO) would be because that can't really move back because the job opportunities are not there (or not as good) for them to move back but they otherwise would for family/lifestyle reasons. Footballers that we would want to bring back would not have that barrier.How many 20-22 year olds do you know that want to move back to Adelaide after being in Victoria for 2-4 years?
Jordan Butts whilst we probably had defence more in mind when we drafted him played quite a bit up forward for the Murray Bushrangers especially last season and played up forward kicking 2 goals in the Shepparton Bears 2018 A grade Grand Final win in the Goulburn Valley Football League. He's definitely capable at both ends.
A bit tough how old is he? A young bloke preforming against men in a senior grand final is still a good effort, country footballers do not give an inch when a premiership is on the line. Bloody tough football at times.He kicked two goals in the Goulburn Valley Football League? That's not much of a CV.
Also played 2 games in the VFL for Werribee, one against the Hawks VFL team where my recollection is he spent time on the AFL listed Tim O'Brien and his intercept marking [10] was a feature on the day ultimately making the best players. I'd suggest we had a scout at that game late in the season as we had been tracking him throughout the previous 2 seasons and that effort may have sold us on taking him on as development rookie.He kicked two goals in the Goulburn Valley Football League? That's not much of a CV.
With a December 31 birthday he was the youngest player in the in the 2017 Draft and if he'd been born a day later he'd have been eligible for the 2018 draft and likely the reason he was overlooked by some clubs the 1st time round. Lachie Murphy was another with a December birthday that missed out in his original draft year, Birth dates are often overlooked and underrated when assessing draftees, especially developing young talls like Butts.A bit tough how old is he? A young bloke preforming against men in a senior grand final is still a good effort, country footballers do not give an inch when a premiership is on the line. Bloody tough football at times.
He shows a bit!