Toast #BringBackTheBars - Our Heritage, Our History, Our Right!

[PA88]

Victorian heritage is important. 120 year old prison bar jumper isn't because not from the VFL...Also Port are denied marketing merchandise without teal frequently. Geelong and Carlton's merchandise is the same other than logos.

Correct for official merch. I was told by a Port Store manager years ago that McGuire protested in our early years about it and got his way. Apparently right down to the percentage of white we are allowed on predominantly black merch, basically the white on the logo. The club just accepts it.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

There's lots of examples of leagues banning clubs from wearing the same colours though.

Not the promotion and relegation leagues.

 

[PA88]

There's lots of examples of leagues banning clubs from wearing the same colours though.

Probably US professional leagues only. The US professional sports leagues have a rationale for this approach to their franchises (new franchises) colour schemes and the AFL adopted that, among many things.

 

[TeeKray]

Not the promotion and relegation leagues.

I was being sarcastic lol.

 

[DaTBird187]

I was being sarcastic lol.

 

[chiwigi]

Probably US professional leagues only. The US professional sports leagues have a rationale for this approach to their franchises (new franchises) colour schemes and the AFL adopted that, among many things.

Hahaha! No they don’t, have you ever watched professional US sport? Half the teams are red, white and blue!

 

[Alex09]

Correct for official merch. I was told by a Port Store manager years ago that McGuire protested in our early years about it and got his way. Apparently right down to the percentage of white we are allowed on predominantly black merch, basically the white on the logo. The club just accepts it.

This is why I just don't think ever relying on the club to get its way through dealing with the AFL is going to yield anything much. It all comes back to needing to be fan driven like the black and white only cheer squad idea to generate some actual pressure which can't be swept aside.

 

[PA88]

Hahaha! No they don’t, have you ever watched professional US sport? Half the teams are red, white and blue!

Yep. It is pedantic but the colour schemes have variant shades but who can tell the difference. Navy blue or midnight navy blue or deep steel blue or Dodger blue. Whilst you think teams may be red, blue and white only, some have either a variant or they have a fourth colour that you hardly notice. Particularly the NFL teams. There's red and scarlet red and cardinal red. Their leagues identify these variants as being different enough.

The AFL only want Collingwood to have the black and white vertical stripe brand.

 

[glitch01]

So the AFL had a year to consider Tasmania’s proposal re their involvement in the AFL. The AFL now want another year to consider it.
I get that this is a far bigger issue, but it still highlights why we should have already been pushing for the Prison Bars last year.
By the time we approach the AFL and they make a decision another season will be over.


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[Interstater]

Yep. It is pedantic but the colour schemes have variant shades but who can tell the difference. Navy blue or midnight navy blue or deep steel blue or Dodger blue. Whilst you think teams may be red, blue and white only, some have either a variant or they have a fourth colour that you hardly notice. Particularly the NFL teams. There's red and scarlet red and cardinal red. Their leagues identify these variants as being different enough.

The AFL only want Collingwood to have the black and white vertical stripe brand.

I'm happy for us to go very dark charcoal and white.

 

[Andre]

So the AFL had a year to consider Tasmania’s proposal re their involvement in the AFL. The AFL now want another year to consider it.
I get that this is a far bigger issue, but it still highlights why we should have already been pushing for the Prison Bars last year.
By the time we approach the AFL and they make a decision another season will be over.


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Nah, it’s all about the AFL doesn’t want to change the status quo in both cases, but doesn’t want any criticism so just says ‘give us more time to decide’.

 

[chiwigi]

Nah, it’s all about the AFL doesn’t want to change the status quo in both cases, but doesn’t want any criticism so just says ‘give us more time to decide’.

And hope something changes in the next year, which it inevitably does.

 

[Alex09]

Nah, it’s all about the AFL doesn’t want to change the status quo in both cases, but doesn’t want any criticism so just says ‘give us more time to decide’.

Who doesn't enjoy "looking into it" as a polite way to fob off a request they don't want to know about?

 

[Fizzler]

A man can dream...

 

[chiwigi]

A man can dream...
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Why dream? We actually did this in 2019 and even had tshirts!

 

[malcheski]

Yep. It is pedantic but the colour schemes have variant shades but who can tell the difference. Navy blue or midnight navy blue or deep steel blue or Dodger blue. Whilst you think teams may be red, blue and white only, some have either a variant or they have a fourth colour that you hardly notice. Particularly the NFL teams. There's red and scarlet red and cardinal red. Their leagues identify these variants as being different enough.

The AFL only want Collingwood to have the black and white vertical stripe brand.

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[VineValerian]

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I reckon obsidian and white PB's would be great!

 

[Grave Danger]

I reckon obsidian and white PB's would be great!

Might have to change the white to ivory - no, not pc these days - alabaster!

 

[wannabejack]

Cheer, cheer the obsidian and the alabaster.

 

[Christoffarken]

Why dream? We actually did this in 2019 and even had tshirts!

I never paid bomberclifford for mine and still feel guilty

 

[edgie]

Can someone please explain to me why Saint Kilda are allowed to have black and white vertical stripes?
Especially if you get him to rotate clockwise 45 degrees.

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Word is Eddie cracked it over their 2004 clash jumper as it had black and white stripes

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[beenreal]

This is why I just don't think ever relying on the club to get its way through dealing with the AFL is going to yield anything much. It all comes back to needing to be fan driven like the black and white only cheer squad idea to generate some actual pressure which can't be swept aside.

I feel very confident that the PAFC will eventually get its way. But we'll have to work really hard for it and earn it, just like everything else we've achieved!

 

[RossFC]

 

[VineValerian]

So Collingwood DON'T hold the trademark for colours or guernseys!
Beautiful.

So this means that the CFC have no argument to mount.

This means that the AFL can allow more than one club to have the colours black and white and more than one club to have a striped kit (and a different pattern of stripe as it turns out).

So bloody get on with it AFL and give us the nod!

 

[bomberclifford]

So Collingwood DON'T hold the trademark for colours or guernseys!
Beautiful.

So this means that the CFC have no argument to mount.

This means that the AFL can allow more than one club to have the colours black and white and more than one club to have a striped kit (and a different pattern of stripe as it turns out).

So bloody get on with it AFL and give us the nod!

ergo: Collingwood aren’t the problem.