Game Day Brisbane Lions v GWS Giants - Semi Finals - Sat 14 Sep, 7:25PM AEST, Gabba. No umpire complaints until after the game.

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JoondalupJ

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I'd like to ;ike your post, I agree with the general observstions, except that I really hope GWS win a flag soon just to stick it up the peoplke who mock them.

I think the rest of the problem is that the AFL keep changing rules trying to "speed up the game" to the point where players are just too exhausted to think clearly or execute skills. So teams recruit and train for fitness and effort over skills, which leads us to the poor standards of the modern game. Umpires too, this game didn't get interesting til the umpires got fatigued and stopped blowing their whistle at every little thing.
I like your post Admiral, and I was very frustrated when I wrote that, most of it was from frustration of watchiong a game destroyed by skill level drop offs, and umpires with the heavy rock strapped around their necks of stupid inconsistent grey rules.
GWS and GC17 will survive and perhaps 10 or 20 years down the track our population will be able to cover 18 teams.
I simply don't believe it does now and Western Sydney was a bad idea , the region is immigrants and lots of soccer and rugby, GC is a holiday region a good time place with old retired vics living there, when things go bad they get no crowds, GWS will suffer that too , badly and they will have their down time.
Your club in WA suffers because the recruiting and trade periods where there are another 80 to 100 players that have to be added to the pool for 18 CLUBS!
It makes that trading/ recruiting job so specialised that real confident recruiting departments with people who can really pick quality are needed, it becomes a game of luck for some clubs, and Freo and others a couple in Victoria have been left to sit down low , because the AFL has thrown money by the $millions to two inventions, that have half worked, and thrown top line picks and coaches and trades and even Gil sort of invests himself in Coniglio staying at the giants with his comments, those two clubs were for TV rights money!

Now! How much more money and force will they have to throw at Gold Coast now, who are a basket case?

I don't think GWS will win the flag, I felt last night they won from Brisbane's terrible goal kicking, they didn't have the greatest momentum and Brisbane could have been a couple of goals up instead they let them back in. I feel neither would be a flag winner.

I shouldn't bag these two clubs they are here now , but I see it in a different light , I see it as a move years too early to bring them in and I also see it as an insult and an injury to some clubs who struggle and have two new clubs taking players away .
To a point where the skill level in the league has dropped off because the elite pool is so thinned out now.
And our game is the hardest in the world to play well at elite level.

I get angry for our sport, and 16 clubs was good, a little tight but fair, the powers that be I have no confidence in them at all.
They are money corporate people, who have put the game second, and actually manipulated rules over a few years to suit a faster but less skilled sport .

Our players don't handball legally in close a lot of times , the kicking is bad, the over kill from umpiring and the wrong calls and unfair calls .

Everything, is down to the additions.

I hope that your club which could stay in the doldrums if not careful, gets a boost , because you are from a TRADITIONAL FOOTBALL STATE!

NSW and QLD already have the Swans and Lions, we didn't need two more, they were only for Gils coffers, from tv rights!
 

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So says one of the 10 ex rugby GWS supporters ! Wtf would you know ? Yes I can reel off easy dozen GWS gifts if you like but fact is your last goal the one that determined the result was a fact . End of story
Yes should have won. Won most of the important stats and dominated the giants in general play. Clearly the better team.
 

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So says one of the 10 ex rugby GWS supporters ! Wtf would you know ? Yes I can reel off easy dozen GWS gifts if you like but fact is your last goal the one that determined the result was a fact . End of story
Lions last goal was from a push in the back.

So also technically the last goal of your lot.

We are back to square one yeah?
 

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I called it at the start of the finals and a lot of Brisbane supporters jumped on me but it happened. Straight sets 😂😂😂
Turned out you were correct, kudos to you.
It was sad our forward line didn't function in Finals Footy & even worse that the Lions renewed the contract of our Forwards Coach. Doesn't surprise me you were jumped on by a lot of Brisbane supporters. There is a core group of blinkered fatheads on this site who don't react well any sort of criticism of Brisbane. Not real football people imo.
 

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Brissie probably blew their best chance of ever getting close to a premiership. Finish top two as an interstate team, gotta make the most of all your opportunities, tomorrow's not guaranteed, just look at Melbourne.
Wouldn't go that far but your point is spot on. Brisbane have shown tremendous talent and I thought they were every chance to win the premiership.

At the same time, there is no guarantee they will reach the same heights next year. A few key injuries, players out of form, game plan getting found out and other factors, and you're off the perch. Sydney were expected to contend in 2017, so were the Bulldogs of course, and we were expected to contend in 2018.

When you get a genuine shot at a premiership, you absolutely must take your chance because, in all likelihood, there is no genuine shot next year.
 

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Those who constantly whinge about umpires are implying that they are cheats. What a preposterous notion to peddle about professional athletes who take such pride in their work. Why would they bother?
It fits into their life view that everything is unfair. As if God has the time to be picking on these nobs. They think the successful people have been lucky - good job, good family, good finances etc. Whereas they have been unlucky and their teachers, bosses etc have treated them unfairly and girls don’t give them a chance. Truly pitiful.
 

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Yes should have won. Won most of the important stats and dominated the giants in general play. Clearly the better team.
I feel that is what happened, skill for kicking at goal killed Brisbane , same thing last week against Richmond , had the better round the ground were in attack more time than their opponents were , but couldn't score. Well they scored points a bit!
People say bad kicking is bad football, I remember Geelong's bad kicking in 2008, but they were rattled by pressure, I don't know why, I think round 17 that year had them shaken .
But these days it's get into your forward fifty and then hope to hell you can kick straight. Or the umpire gives you a knocking the arm nonsense free, but even then some players can't have a deliberate shot usually its a side kick or a dribble but dead in front and they s**t themselves.. That is down to expansion! Skill level is off in some areas.
And 18 AFL clubs makes it extremely hard to add about 100 in number to make two new clubs full of elite players . AND, to a comp that was STRETCHED to 16 which was just enough with 22 or 23 million population and a game that is so hard to play .

My tips are Coll over Giants , that is probably bias though, but I'll get used to the newbies eventually.

Now out of Geelong and Richmond, probably Tigers but we all know if Geelong hit their straps well they can do anything.
Only Gary Ablett needs to hit form and its a whole different ball game. But Tigers are ruthless and if they win tonight I'D TIP THEM TO BE PREMIERS!
 

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