Brisbane needs help

[Viceregal]

Yeah, if only Karnezis was still here...

rumour has it that he 'wasagun' in his day!

 

[ABSOLUTE MADMAN]

Cliffs for the Brisbane results from the time this thread was active until the recent bump.

2014: 15th 7 wins 15 losses.
2015: 17th 4 wins 18 losses
2016: 17th 3 wins 19 losses
2017: 18th 5 wins 17 losses
2018: 17th 0 wins 4 losses

 

[MacMum]

Huge changes have happened between 2014 and 2018, thank god. At this stage, results aren't quite so important, as its the little changes required in and around the club, effort and stability within the team that have to be fixed first.

The wins will come.

For the first time in years, there is a genuine confidence in the club from the fans..

 

[Barry_Badrinath]

The past weekend was an abberation from a young team who had been up for three weeks but had a down game that happened to be against the reigning premiers. We did nearly beat Port at AO a week prior. If a similarly bad result happens again this week against the GC at the Gabba then sure, fire away. But I am extremely confident this Richmond game will not be viewed as an accurate reflection of us by seasons end.

“Been up”? They’d lost 3 in a row. I hate threads like this but if narrow losses against mediocre teams are considered “up” then maybe OP has a point.

 

[a mayes ing]

“Been up”? They’d lost 3 in a row. I hate threads like this but if narrow losses against mediocre teams are considered “up” then maybe OP has a point.

From where we have been, Melbourne, StK were a fair bit higher than we are. Saints are probably just outside the 8 but their confidence was up at the start of the season. Melbounre should be around a top 8 side this season. Also to nearly beat Port at AO is such a better result than what we have done recently there. The average losing margin is like 90 points or something. Clear improvements from last season just havent got the wins on the board yet. We need to beat GC tomoro tho

 

[Benny78]

The AFL should send Clarko over there on a 10 million dollar contract.

 

[Freomaniac]

Please, you wouldn't even know what success means so go away.

Glad Brisbane turned it around.

They got the right people at the right time.

Getting Chris Fagan as coach was a good move.

Poaching David Noble from the crows at the end of 2016 was nothing short of a masterstroke in my opinion.

 

[iBeng]

Cliffs for the Brisbane results from the time this thread was active until the recent bump.

2014: 15th 7 wins 15 losses.
2015: 17th 4 wins 18 losses
2016: 17th 3 wins 19 losses
2017: 18th 5 wins 17 losses
2018: 17th 0 wins 4 losses

What about this new bump?

2019: 1st 16 wins 5 losses with a game to play

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Glad Brisbane turned it around.

They got the right people at the right time.

Getting Chris Fagan as coach was a good move.

Poaching David Noble from the crows at the end of 2016 was nothing short of a masterstroke in my opinion.

No reason why Gold Coast can't do the same if they get people like Fages and Noble into the club.

They are coming from a long back though, and it will probably take 5 years, their list at this stage is probably (slightly) better than The Lions when this thread was created, so it's not all doom and gloom for The Suns.

Also I think Stewart Dew needs to go. Not all his fault, but he just doesn't seem to have the nous and man management skills to make the Suns a successful team. Will get one more year, but I think it's curtains for him after 2020.

 

[Freomaniac]

Huge changes have happened between 2014 and 2018, thank god. At this stage, results aren't quite so important, as its the little changes required in and around the club, effort and stability within the team that have to be fixed first.

The wins will come.

For the first time in years, there is a genuine confidence in the club from the fans..

excellent call.....

you look at brisbanes last 2 years.....

In 2017, that was weird that they got the Wooden spoon with 5 wins. Suns, North and Carlton all got 6 wins each. North lost a few games narrowly in 2017. it would of been weird seeing a team finish bottom with 6 wins.

In 2018, Brisbane got only 5 wins. Brisbane lost 5 games by under a goal. they should of got 7--9 wins in 2018.

I half expect Brisbane to improve but not get top 4.

 

[Blackas87]

Good to see the Lions up and about.

5 years time we’ll all be sick of them like 2004.

 

[iBeng]

Good to see the Lions up and about.

5 years time we’ll all be sick of them like 2004.

Apparently we have already become unbearable due to our increased presence and "bandwagoning".

 

[Scotland]

2004 - Brisbane average home crowd is 33,619.

2014 - Gold Coast average home crowd is 16,806.

2014 - Brisbane average home crowd is 20,568 coming off a record low (as Lions) of 12,700.

Brisbane hovered under 20k per game for 5 years. This year they are almost at 25k. 700,000 more people attended Lions games this year than last, that's fantastic. Definite bandwagon but ride it while it's there, it's all good news coming out of Brisbane.

Gold Coast averaging just under 12k with a decent boost from playing Rich/Carl/Ess at home and all the expat Vics going along.

35-40k people seems to be where support for footy in Queensland maxes out. Will we ever see Brisbane and Gold Coast both averaging 20k+ to home games?

 

[Damon_3388]

Brisbane hovered under 20k per game for 5 years. This year they are almost at 25k. 700,000 more people attended Lions games this year than last, that's fantastic. Definite bandwagon but ride it while it's there, it's all good news coming out of Brisbane.

Gold Coast averaging just under 12k with a decent boost from playing Rich/Carl/Ess at home and all the expat Vics going along.

35-40k people seems to be where support for footy in Queensland maxes out. Will we ever see Brisbane and Gold Coast both averaging 20k+ to home games?

I reckon if Ablett Jnr hadn't gotten injured when in career-best form in 2014, and the Suns had made the finals that year (as they were on track to do - they were in the 8 after that Round 16 clash against Collingwood where Ablett got injured, and then went 1-6 without him to close the season), then they would have topped 20,000 in 2015.

 

[flyinghi64]

Fair bump, play on.

 

[Milux]

Hate the words "band wagon". Every teams numbers vary depending on how they are going. Ours are no different to any other fluctuations.

 

[smasha]

Hate the words "band wagon". Every teams numbers vary depending on how they are going. Ours are no different to any other fluctuations.

But rugby has a strong presence in Queensland so fans generally drop off quick if the Lions aren’t anywhere near the top 4 excluding the Roy fans who stayed on.

I reckon there will be alot of “not the full bag” fans cheering the Lions this Sunday at the G,the irony.

70k now predicted.

 

[Freomaniac]

Brisbane hovered under 20k per game for 5 years. This year they are almost at 25k. 700,000 more people attended Lions games this year than last, that's fantastic. Definite bandwagon but ride it while it's there, it's all good news coming out of Brisbane.

Gold Coast averaging just under 12k with a decent boost from playing Rich/Carl/Ess at home and all the expat Vics going along.

35-40k people seems to be where support for footy in Queensland maxes out. Will we ever see Brisbane and Gold Coast both averaging 20k+ to home games?

for that to happen Brisbane have to be good in which they are.

Gold coast stadium should increase to 30-35,000 seats and they need to bee good

 

[rocker_oz33]

Good to see Brissy turn things around alot of players of good players left the club.
**** and co have done a great job up there.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

35-40k people seems to be where support for footy in Queensland maxes out.

Not really, because the Lions have got 35k themselves to a couple of games this year, leaving aside the Suns crowds which are still over 10k a game despite having a garbage team. So we're already at 45k-50k on occasion, and that will be pretty consistent next year assuming the Lions continue to do well. Plus the Gold Coast has never had a good team to support. Success brings crowds and I reckon a successful Suns team would regularly draw 20k.

 

[Freomaniac]

What about this new bump?

2019: 1st 16 wins 5 losses with a game to play

As I said, glad your mob eventually turned it around.

I always hoped it would.

Again, you guys got the right people on board.

Getting Chris Fagan was a smart move.

Getting the list manager from the crows in David Noble was a great move. He has done wonders since coming to your club in 2017.

It was harsh for brisbane to get the spoon in 2017. Yet 3 teams above brisbane got 6 wins each. There has never been a side that has finished bottom with 6 wins.

Last year Brisbane got 15th with 5 wins. But 5 of those losses were by under a goal. Brisbane should of got 7-9 wins. Had they got 8 wins, they would of leaped frog the dogs and dockers on % as both of them had 8 wins as well and be 13th.

and now brisbane will be top 4.

Glad i Bumped this thread

 

[Lensen]

I just reckon that the call for a retention allowance is a fairly lazy way to "fix" the issue. There doesn't appear to have been any enterprising movement by the Lions as a club to sell the advantages of living in Brisbane that won't attract every player but will certainly appeal to many if positioned correctly. The noises out of the club - and the shambolic way it's been run over the last half decade don't help - only seem to focus on teh disadvantages of living in Brisbane which then becomes a self-perpetuating cycle

Amazing that with a competent mature footy department there are now quality footballers falling over themselves to get there

 

[jackess]

Amazing that with a competent mature footy department there are now quality footballers falling over themselves to get there

It's just unfortunate that there aren't enough competent and mature football department people for 18 clubs

 

[MacMum]

2019 - finished 2nd on the ladder

2020 - finished 2nd on the ladder

...and as I write, still going, into another Prelim final with the hope of a GF appearance.

either way mighty proud of my boys.

Thank god for Mathews, Fagan, Noble and Swann. They single handedly saved our club.

 

[Freomaniac]

Make no mistake, they are the worst team in the competition at the moment.
They have issues off the field and on the field. Administration is a joke, their leader is out injured, probably never to return, support is down, crowds are down, profits are unheard of.

Brisbane is just as an important market as Sydney in the grand scheme of things and everyone loves the Fitzroy Lions - the competition is better off to have that link to them, it needs it I believe.

If Sydney deserves a "COLA" then Brisbane surely deserve some extra help as well. Yes a lot of their predicament is their own doing (see poor admin) but in the interests of a strong competition it isn't good for any team to be like Brisbane is right now

How times have changed