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mclean would be handy with obree and burns nearly finsihed the question is what do you give up for him melbourne dont want a toovey for him
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Half a box of pizza shapes, two slices of capricosa and a dirty bonds shirt.
That is my only offer
alfio
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he lives in WA how much footy has he seen of Prismall?
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I because he will make a good AFL footballer, I doubt he will be a star at the level but he will be good. Atm we need inside midfielders despreatly but any midfielder with good skills would be handy and more then likely he will go much under his true value simply becuase he hasn't played many AFL games in his time on Geelongs list. If it only cost us a second rounder why wouldn't you trade it for a player with a couple years of development who has proven he can play senior footy.
goalpie
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This site should be called dumbfooty. 
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For a second rounder possibly, anything higher should be scoffed at.
Really three years on teh list perenial VFl specialist, hardly any senior games a thrid rounder should eb appropriate.
Just remeber essendon especially richmond and carlton all want the same thing which means a biddign war of sorts so you always pay high.
I just dotn want another aaron shattock first rounder and then delisted within two years
FlyingDucks
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McLean is good but he is not as good as Swan or Pendelbury.
Also the person who mentioned Wells must kidding themselves, he is in the top ten worst top ten picks surely. He has been a pathetic player.
Collingwood need a key defender and Johnathon Brown not midfielders. A ruckman would also be awesome. Fraser needs to play like Richo is on a wing/flank...
Thats a very different opinion to those shown by most Pies supporters.....
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I agree we need midfielder but diligent drafting can help with midfielders in two year, most good mids can play and make a reasonable impression in their second year.
Good strong experienced key defenders would be great right now. If two backmen go down while presti is out we are down to Dawes who is a CHF, thoolen and casey leigh none are great options really, Anthony will of course play and do his job well id assume.
A Maguire before injury, Thursfield, Hunter etc would really help us in the long run
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Tall backs is one area which doesn't concern me at all. Between Brown/O'Brien/Anthony/Maxwell/Goldsack/Wakelin/Presti we currently have 7 guys who could play as tall defenders. It's our least pressing need after half-forward flankers.
Assuming no trades go through, our drafting strategy should look something like: 1st rounder: Inside Mid, 2nd-4th round: Small defender, inside mid, ruckman. The order of the last 3 should be based on talent, where we are drafting, etc...
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Yeah i do understand but apart from brown we dont really have to backmen who can play on big kp forwards.
O'Brien is too small, Goldsack is too light and lanky, maxy the samke as godlsack.
so my drafting would be
1st Inside mid(fast, good skills)
2nd tall strong backmen (fast strong body similar to brown)
3rd Midfielder( endurance)
4th best availiable
rookie list keefe.
All suggestions are subject to change with best talent at that pick
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O'Brien's similar to Clement in that he can do it if asked, but it would probably take too much of a toll on his body if he were to do it every week. Obviously it's always good to have multiple back-ups at every position, but very few clubs would have more than 2 or 3 key defenders in the Brown/Presti mold.
Btw, I'd say there's almost no chance of getting an inside mid who's fast and has good skills at where we're picking. I'd settle for an inside mid with good skills, and would be willing to forego the pace.
melbournemartin
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No way in hell is he leaving.
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look im not all that worried to be honest, sure it would be nice to snatch a cousins or a kerr, or a prismal or mcclean even. but we're collingwood remember?? we get linked with the big names and nothing happens.
this year, as long as we make the finals, i wont be too dissapointed.
people are talking as if we have a severe talent deficiency. We have KPP's by the truckload, and most of them under 22. In terms of quality midfielders, i am not writing off cook and stanley just yet i think they will have a future.
In 2009-2010, if our team is like this, I will be happy.
Obviously some players wont make it. you cant expect 100% hit rate when drafting. But if one or two players dont become what we expect than they will be covered. no big deal.
B: Brown, Anthony, O'Brien
HB: Clarke, Heath Shaw (c), Goldsack
C: Pendlebury, Thomas, Wellingham
HF: Didak, Cloke, Medhurst
FF: Rusling/Reid, Dawes, Davis
Foll: Swan, Dyas, Wood
Int: Dick, Cox, Cook, Fraser
Coach: Nathan Buckley
On second thought, i think ive just realised something. its impossible for me to be critical of our players lol (except lonie)
this year, as long as we make the finals, i wont be too dissapointed.
people are talking as if we have a severe talent deficiency. We have KPP's by the truckload, and most of them under 22. In terms of quality midfielders, i am not writing off cook and stanley just yet i think they will have a future.
In 2009-2010, if our team is like this, I will be happy.
Obviously some players wont make it. you cant expect 100% hit rate when drafting. But if one or two players dont become what we expect than they will be covered. no big deal.
B: Brown, Anthony, O'Brien
HB: Clarke, Heath Shaw (c), Goldsack
C: Pendlebury, Thomas, Wellingham
HF: Didak, Cloke, Medhurst
FF: Rusling/Reid, Dawes, Davis
Foll: Swan, Dyas, Wood
Int: Dick, Cox, Cook, Fraser
Coach: Nathan Buckley
On second thought, i think ive just realised something. its impossible for me to be critical of our players lol (except lonie)
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the thing about this year is that all of a sudden, people have forgotten how good our players are. they are only in form slumps people.
O'brein was fantastic in 07. so too Thomas. So too Cloke. So too Clarke, it just goes on...
lets not assume that their current form is their real form, because we have seen them play much better.
The positive is: time is on their side. because it is early in the season, and they are still young.
I know we collingwood supporters are known for overhyping our players, but we have the best group of youngsters coming up in the league. And whats fantastic is that they are all coming up together - Geelong did a similar thing. their team now, was just a bunch of kids who showed signs but no consistency a few years ago. now they have all come up together.
So the bottom line is, lets not hit panic mode. things are still fine at maggieland
O'brein was fantastic in 07. so too Thomas. So too Cloke. So too Clarke, it just goes on...
lets not assume that their current form is their real form, because we have seen them play much better.
The positive is: time is on their side. because it is early in the season, and they are still young.
I know we collingwood supporters are known for overhyping our players, but we have the best group of youngsters coming up in the league
. And whats fantastic is that they are all coming up together - Geelong did a similar thing. their team now, was just a bunch of kids who showed signs but no consistency a few years ago. now they have all come up together.So the bottom line is, lets not hit panic mode. things are still fine at maggieland
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LOL at you.
Collingwood don't need midfielders? Pleeeease. Our midfield is the reason we are struggling. Our defense looks like shit because our midfield gets smashed, and/or turns the ball over. Our forward line looks like shit because the delivery from the midfield - bar Pendlebury - is a disgrace. Look at the midfields of the recent premiership sides, they all had at least one superstar, most of the time more. Look at Geelong and Hawthorn - Ablett, Bartel, Hodge, Mitchell, Corey, Sewell... pure quality. If we had 2 of those guys, we'd win the flag... and suddenly our forward line and defense would look brilliant.
If we're not going to trade for them, which we won't... because nobody deals with us... then we need to draft some bloody midfielders for once. Pendlebury will be a star. Thomas COULD be a midfield star, but he needs to pull his finger out. But we need more.
brspdt201013
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I agree. Although I think McLean is to slow to fit into our team. We need running players that can break the lines such as Kerr, Dal Santo and S Burgoyne.
To help solve Collingwoods problem of being one paced in the midfield next year we should play Didak and Thomas perminately on the wings. We then can have Pendlebury and lets say Kerr in the middle winning the footy and feeding it out to them.
We also may need to look at picking up another young midfielder in the PSD such as Ray, Swallow, Rosa, Monfries, Sylvia etc.
To help solve Collingwoods problem of being one paced in the midfield next year we should play Didak and Thomas perminately on the wings. We then can have Pendlebury and lets say Kerr in the middle winning the footy and feeding it out to them.
We also may need to look at picking up another young midfielder in the PSD such as Ray, Swallow, Rosa, Monfries, Sylvia etc.
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Jokes?
We need Wellingham, Dyas, Barham and McCarthy to become AFL quality players and one or two of them stars. They are all fairly quick from what I have heard and have fairly solid skills. McCarthy and Dyas seem to be in and under types, with Wellingham a hybrid type who could get better at the in and under stuff as he bulks up.
That's where our midfield improvement will come from, not going after star midfielders from other clubs. Though I'm pissed that we possibly could have gotten Judd if we were willing to put Reid on the trading block but didn't. If say Reid, Rusling and our first rounder could have gotten Judd, I would have done it. All done and dusted I suppose.
That's where our midfield improvement will come from, not going after star midfielders from other clubs. Though I'm pissed that we possibly could have gotten Judd if we were willing to put Reid on the trading block but didn't. If say Reid, Rusling and our first rounder could have gotten Judd, I would have done it. All done and dusted I suppose.