Broughton -- the new Shane Parker

[Freo_4eva]

load of garbage that parkers skills were horrible... he wasnt a great kick in player, and he may have looked awkward and ungainly, but his skills did the job. he was quick, disciplined, determined and an allround fantastic defender...... i can not believe some of our supporters

Hear Hear.. makes you wonder how some ppl followed the ckub for the first 10 years

 

[bigkev bleeds purple]

can anyone remember parks in what was i think his 200th against carlton where parker played fullback on fevola and kicked more goals than what fevola did? he kept fev goalless and then in the final quarter ran off fev, leaving him in his wake collected the handpass off a teammate and then kicked truly from 45........ one of my favourite freo memories...... i can understand people having an opinion, that is what this site is all about.... im just baffled by some of those opinions..... id be interested to hear what IP has to think on this, given that she seems to be the most sensible of us all..... im cetainly not

That always has been and always will be one of my absolute favourite moments in football. I wish the youtube video didn't disappear into oblivion.

 

[anchor man]

As i said here earlier some so called supporters of our club know nothing,zip,zilch nada,zero,SFA about football.Some,I think,are children who think that you have to get 50 touches a game to be a good player.Doesn't matter that your opponent only get ten but kicks 7 goals.
There are none so blind as those who can't see.

 

[Kickett Punches Read]

That always has been and always will be one of my absolute favourite moments in football. I wish the youtube video didn't disappear into oblivion.

i can remember laughing so hard at that... a fullback kicking more goals than his direct full forward opponent. it was a good running goal too, wasnt as if it was a sitter anyhow.... it was a good day that one

 

[Stronzo]

I remember that game also, we were giving fev heaps about it.

 

[ImperialPurple]

can anyone remember parks in what was i think his 200th against carlton where parker played fullback on fevola and kicked more goals than what fevola did? he kept fev goalless and then in the final quarter ran off fev, leaving him in his wake collected the handpass off a teammate and then kicked truly from 45........ one of my favourite freo memories...... i can understand people having an opinion, that is what this site is all about.... im just baffled by some of those opinions..... id be interested to hear what IP has to think on this, given that she seems to be the most sensible of us all..... im cetainly not

One of my favourite Freo moments! I loved the way a bunch of his team-mates mobbed him, and after the briefest twitch in the corners of his mouth (which I think was a Parksy smile), he just scuttled his way back to the opposition goal-square to wait for play to restart...

If Broughton turns out to be as bad as Shane Parker I reckon he'll go alright.

 

[Kickett Punches Read]

One of my favourite Freo moments! I loved the way a bunch of his team-mates mobbed him, and after the briefest twitch in the corners of his mouth (which I think was a Parksy smile), he just scuttled his way back to the opposition goal-square to wait for play to restart...

If Broughton turns out to be as bad as Shane Parker I reckon he'll go alright.

well said

 

[Reasonable]

Here's a cluster bomb.

Who honestly thinks Parker would have been a starting 22 player at West Coast 95-onward?

 

[Dr Ralph Dagg]

Oh dear God. People bad mouthing Shane Parker. I am sending an email to Chief as we speak to find the names and addresses of the dissenters so I can come and kick their arses until their noses bleed. Insulting the great man is pretty much admitting that you wouldn't know a football if it hit you in the face as you got out of bed every morning for the rest of your life and that you hate all things Fremantle. Seriously, if you don't rate him, you suck at life. That's all there is to it.

Dr Dagg, I hope you're right. But I know deep down that there never has been, and never will be, another Shane Parker. And nothing stops the resultant hurt I feel.

Big K, well I've called it early just like I did with big Sandi. Now Sandi may never actually win the Bronlow but he is a lot closer than he was in 2003 when the club had to beg to give him a run in the East feo 1sts.

Obviously Broughton is still coming to grips with the different level but he just strikes me as a defender's defender.

As to the Shane Parker baggers. Obviously my question to Reasonable was a set up. He, or possibly she, fell for it hook line and sinker. Or doesn't care.

Really, what Reasonable and the other baggers know about footy could be written in capital letters on an aspro. In particular reasonable shows this over and over. As arrogant as it sounds, I can't be bothered even to engage with him and not sure why other's do.

 

[Reasonable]

Big K, well I've called it early just like I did with big Sandi. Now Sandi may never actually win the Bronlow but he is a lot closer than he was in 2003 when the club had to beg to give him a run in the East feo 1sts.

Obviously Broughton is still coming to grips with the different level but he just strikes me as a defender's defender.

As to the Shane Parker baggers. Obviously my question to Reasonable was a set up. He, or possibly she, fell for it hook line and sinker. Or doesn't care.

Really, what Reasonable and the other baggers know about footy could be written in capital letters on an aspro. In particular reasonable shows this over and over. As arrogant as it sounds, I can't be bothered even to engage with him and not sure why other's do.

Lol, whats your problem, I didnt think Parker was AFL standard, he and the likes of Macmanus only got by for so long because are club was so poor for such a long time.

They were average players in a poor side, are you going to argue they were good players in a great side?

Calling me a bagger because I dont adhere to the status quo is pretty average.

IMO, and many others the likes of Macmanus and Parker are a reminder of where we dont want to be in 10 years, idolising blokes who couldnt play but gee they tried hard.

I hope Broughton kicks on and shows the form he has for Subi over a number of years. And to JGB99 your view on Broughtons game is uneducated.

He's an excellent ball user and has been for the last 5 years at Subi.

 

[jgb99]

Not excellent by any stretch (if it was he'd have gone in the main draft and had a lot more clubs sniffing him out ... excellent ball users from defence are very valuable commodities these days) ... average at best from my viewing and Subi's defence has rarely been under any pressure in the last 3 years.

 

[Reasonable]

Not excellent by any stretch (if it was he'd have gone in the main draft and had a lot more clubs sniffing him out ... excellent ball users from defence are very valuable commodities these days) ... average at best from my viewing and Subi's defence has rarely been under any pressure in the last 3 years.

Thats great, he's been playing predominantly on a wing and occasionally on the back flank.

He and Hilderbrant are a cut above most WAFL players.

 

[masai]

I can see that those who have actually played footy on this board, alot must have never been defenders.

Shane was a worker, something every side needs 2 or 3 of. He was not a pretty boy or larrikin, but did his job week in, week out. He did his job 200+ times.

Is a player like Prestigiacomo better ?. Shane played in a similar vein.

If you can't see the positive things Shane did for Freo, you are pigheaded nuff nuffs.

 

[Dock_king]

Shane Parker was a 1st class lock down defender. He regularly beat Matera and Richo and many others in between.

He wouldn`t survive in todays game due to the fast rebound footy that has become the norm. I don`t think the `Shane-Parker-Shuffle` would hold up too well

He is a club legend for his many years of very valuable service.

 

[Plugga]

Problem with Parker was he'd be good 80% of the time, but you could always count on a crucial clanger to give up a goal that would be hurtful at that particular stage of the game...hence his value is down in the eyes of some supporters (including me). + he wasn't managed well in some games (See Prelim Final 06)...he'd sometimes play on players he shouldn't be playing on purely based on 1 or 2 good games from early on in his career.

Good solid loyal player...nothing else

 

[druid11]

Why?

Things panned out pretty well so far eh?

Look it's a matter of opinion, I thought he was a liability, others saw something I and others didnt.

No one is disputing his ability to negate a player, but part of the reason why this club has been stuck down the wrong end of the table for such a long time is because of poor decison makers, on and off the field, and poor disposers of the ball.

He was offensively in-effective.

parker did his job i never expected him to break a game open at fullback (noone did)all he had to do was his job

the club wasnt unsuccessful because of parker....

 

[Postman_Pav]

He was overlooked over the years because his DC results for speed were very poor, talking slower than 200cm unco rucks. So not sure Parker is a good example, Shane was very quick indeed!

 

[Kickett Punches Read]

He was overlooked over the years because his DC results for speed were very poor, talking slower than 200cm unco rucks. So not sure Parker is a good example, Shane was very quick indeed!

thats true. not many people know, that shane came runnerup in the state schoolboys 100m sprint.... he lost to james clement

 

[sabre_ac]

Correct. He was from the age of battlers.

Loved his application, not his skill level or decison making processes.

Harsh.

A Parker at his peak would probably be our third best backmen in the current side (Behind McPharlin and Roger)

At his peak he was our best backmen and very unlucky not to make AA in a couple of those years.

He was an exceptional negating player and had no problems playing on the FF or the crumbing type players.

His kicking wasnt exceptional but what backmen's is.

 

[sabre_ac]

As far as reason why our club has struggled for so long....Well put in extremely simple terms.

First and foremost a history of chasing quick fixes...

And to a lesser extent not investing enough time into researching potential trades/drafties work ethics.

 

[Reasonable]

Harsh.

A Parker at his peak would probably be our third best backmen in the current side (Behind McPharlin and Roger)

At his peak he was our best backmen and very unlucky not to make AA in a couple of those years.

He was an exceptional negating player and had no problems playing on the FF or the crumbing type players.

His kicking wasnt exceptional but what backmen's is.

Scarlett
Fletcher
Hunt
Hodge
Newman
Malceski
Gilbee
Drummond
Wakelin Brother's - Never missed a target these two.
Mcintosh
Silvanghi
Leo Barry
Sam Fisher
Jason Gram
B. Thornton
Firrito

I could keep going.

The game was evolving, people who couldnt kick were a liability.

There was no season Parker was AA material.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Scarlett - Not consistently
Fletcher - Never
Hunt - Not that great
Hodge - He's not a backman
Newman - Neither is he
Malceski - Neither is he
Gilbee - Neither is he
Drummond - Neither is he
Wakelin Brother's - Lies
Mcintosh - Wasn't that gooder kick
Silvanghi - He was ok
Leo Barry - Definitey not
Sam Fisher - He can be wayward
Jason Gram - Worst kick of the bunch. If he manages to kick a drop punt the crowd should cheer
B. Thornton - Meh
Firrito - Meh

 

[sabre_ac]

Scarlett - Not consistently
Fletcher - Never
Hunt - Not that great
Hodge - He's not a backman
Newman - Neither is he
Malceski - Neither is he
Gilbee - Neither is he
Drummond - Neither is he
Wakelin Brother's - Lies
Mcintosh - Wasn't that gooder kick
Silvanghi - He was ok
Leo Barry - Definitey not
Sam Fisher - He can be wayward
Jason Gram - Worst kick of the bunch. If he manages to kick a drop punt the crowd should cheer
B. Thornton - Meh
Firrito - Meh

What he said

There is a very old school theory that backmen are players without enough string's on their bow to play forward.
I think you will find that most KPP players that are exceptoinal kicks play up forward and the backmen that can actually hit targets consistently are actually midfielders.

 

[salim malik]

Scarlett
Fletcher
Hunt
Hodge
Newman
Malceski
Gilbee
Drummond
Wakelin Brother's - Never missed a target these two.
Mcintosh
Silvanghi
Leo Barry
Sam Fisher
Jason Gram
B. Thornton
Firrito

Obviously your list of unexceptional kicks proving Sabres point,why did you bother Warped

 

[Reasonable]

Scarlett - Not consistently
Fletcher - Never
Hunt - Not that great
Hodge - He's not a backman
Newman - Neither is he
Malceski - Neither is he
Gilbee - Neither is he
Drummond - Neither is he
Wakelin Brother's - Lies
Mcintosh - Wasn't that gooder kick
Silvanghi - He was ok
Leo Barry - Definitey not
Sam Fisher - He can be wayward
Jason Gram - Worst kick of the bunch. If he manages to kick a drop punt the crowd should cheer
B. Thornton - Meh
Firrito - Meh

What he said

There is a very old school theory that backmen are players without enough string's on their bow to play forward.
I think you will find that most KPP players that are exceptoinal kicks play up forward and the backmen that can actually hit targets consistently are actually midfielders.

Are you two serious?

These are all top flight backmen who hit their targets regularly.

I know some of you on here would rather hide behind your own bullshit, but come on. Drummond not a back man? He plays as FULL BACK FFS.

Jesus Christ.