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Wasn't he or woosh or perhaps someone on here just talking about be excited at the prospect of playing a swing role back and forward next year?

You have to wonder at these mid-level guys all jumping ship on the verge of a premiership window... As ever there will be injuries and opportunities next year and FFS wait one more year and your basically best 22 - assuming Glass retires.
 
One thing is for sure: Cripps is worth significantly less than Brown. Brown has put in some good performances this year and is a developed KPD. Cripps so far is just an average player in a position that is generally easy to fill. The problem is they only really have Cripps to offer + 34. Maybe we could then offer Collingwood picks 34, 38 and Stevens for Wellingham. Then we would get pick 17 (I'd still use on a mid), Wellingham and Cripps. I really think its crucial we find a way to hang onto 17.
 
Quinz said:
Losing a lot of depth this year.. I don't really like it. We will need to draft well this year.
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Serious question, why can't we use our junk picks, and the PSD and rookie drafts to pick up mature age ready to go players? Is the talent just not there this year?
 
Kaboodleer said:
One thing is for sure: Cripps is worth significantly less than Brown. Brown has put in some good performances this year and is a developed KPD. Cripps so far is just an average player in a position that is generally easy to fill. The problem is they only really have Cripps to offer + 34. Maybe we could then offer Collingwood picks 34, 38 and Stevens for Wellingham. Then we would get pick 17 (I'd still use on a mid), Wellingham and Cripps. I really think its crucial we find a way to hang onto 17.
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If we lose Brown we need to pick up Pears or a ready to go KPD depth player.
 

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Forward Press said:
Serious question, why can't we use our junk picks, and the PSD and rookie drafts to pick up mature age ready to go players? Is the talent just not there this year?
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Why would we recruit mature age depth players?

I'd rather we provide our own younger players with opportunity, in the event of injury.
 
Spartan said:
If we lose Brown we need to pick up Pears or a ready to go KPD depth player.
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Why?

If Glass or Mackenzie get injured, switch Schofield to KPD and bring Smith to play Schofield's role. If both get injured, give McGovern a crack. Fill the list with youth and give them opportunities.

That said, if we don't get a decent offer for Brown, let him sit in the WAFL for 12 months and we'll re-assess next season.
 
don't mind seeing guys who aren't committed leaving.

Gives opportunity to youngsters - my opinion is that 2010 was the 'recession we had to have', we blooded a lot of young players, exposed those who weren't up for it and allowed others to lock themselves in spots in the team, as well as recruiting brilliantly.

With these guys leaving it just gives others who are willing to stick it out and who bleed blue and gold to earn the spot they deserve.
 
Marlin01 said:
Why?

If Glass or Mackenzie get injured, switch Schofield to KPD and bring Smith to play Schofield's role. If both get injured, give McGovern a crack. Fill the list with youth and give them opportunities.

That said, if we don't get a decent offer for Brown, let him sit in the WAFL for 12 months and we'll re-assess next season.
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I think that is the point - it would need to be bloody decent compo IMO.

Woosha stated we are targetting two 'windows' one with Glass, Cox et al - and one other.

The concern with trading Brown is sacrificing our Window after Glass retires.
 
Kaboodleer said:
One thing is for sure: Cripps is worth significantly less than Brown. Brown has put in some good performances this year and is a developed KPD. Cripps so far is just an average player in a position that is generally easy to fill. The problem is they only really have Cripps to offer + 34. Maybe we could then offer Collingwood picks 34, 38 and Stevens for Wellingham. Then we would get pick 17 (I'd still use on a mid), Wellingham and Cripps. I really think its crucial we find a way to hang onto 17.
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Stevens & our Fraser compo to dogs for pick 27
Brown to St Kilda for Cripps and pick 34
Picks 27 & 34 to Collingwood for Wellingham

Outs: Stevens, Brown
Ins: Wellingham & Cripps

Go to the draft and use our round 1,2 & Lynch compo.

This may be the best we can manage, i would be pushing hard for something along these lines and wouldn't sign off on any of the trades until all have been reached.
 
Marlin01 said:
Why?

If Glass or Mackenzie get injured, switch Schofield to KPD and bring Smith to play Schofield's role. If both get injured, give McGovern a crack. Fill the list with youth and give them opportunities.

That said, if we don't get a decent offer for Brown, let him sit in the WAFL for 12 months and we'll re-assess next season.
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Schofield plays his best footy as an attacking rebounding defender. I also don't think he is big enough to play a real lock down role on some of the bigger forwards (e.g. Roughhead, Lynch :D, Walker, etc).
 
FLETCH41 said:
I'm going to call bullsh!t on this one....Browns partner just signed a new deal to stay in the west (she is from Melbourne too) it doesn't make any sense at all! Surely Brown doesn't want out with one year left on his deal????
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Perhaps they've both decided that they'll be back in Vic come 2014.
The prospect of getting regular games and a 3yr deal with the Saints and the missus moving back soon as well might be why he's asked to be traded now while WC have some bargaining power at the trade table.

What we definitely don't want is to force him to stay another year while his contract runs out only for him to go for nothing in 12 months time when the missus is moving and he can walk to the draft or nominates a single club who'll give us nothing.
 
Marlin01 said:
Why would we recruit mature age depth players?

I'd rather we provide our own younger players with opportunity, in the event of injury.
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Because we're pushing for a premiership, not a rebuild?

If we think that a mature age player can immediately add to the first 22, or at the very least provide sorely needed cover in a vulnerable area, then I think it's a worthwhile shot.
 

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This is disappointing from the point that club have put a lot in to him and stuck by him through his injuries. Surely he knows Glass is 1 year from hanging up the boots and there is a spot there for him.

Anyhoo, in my opinion he is never going to be anything more than a solid player so perhaps now it forces us to look for another KPD, whether it be through the draft or trade. The difficult thing will be finding one through the draft, particularly if the first pick goes to Wellingham.
 
if brown leaves, i'd inquire about the possibility of pears coming back to WA?

he'd be a great pick up, i don't think we'd get him cheaply as he's a quality young backman...but he didn't exactly have the greatest year. could lower his currency somewhat.
 
Spartan said:
Schofield plays his best footy as an attacking rebounding defender. I also don't think he is big enough to play a real lock down role on some of the bigger forwards (e.g. Roughhead, Lynch :D, Walker, etc).
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It's not ideal, but it's better than importing some also-ran and having our next up and comer ask to leave due to a lack of opportunity.

Forward Press said:
Because we're pushing for a premiership, not a rebuild?
If we think that a mature age player can immediately add to the first 22, or at the very least provide sorely needed cover in a vulnerable area, then I think it's a worthwhile shot.
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There's a very big difference between immediately adding to the best 22 and providing cover. You say it as if it's the same thing. To add to the 22, said player would have to be better than Mackenzie or Glass. To provide cover, they'd only have to be 194cm+ and about 24 years of age.

If we can bring in a KPD that's better than Glass or Mackenzie then we should definitely do it. If we bring a player, presumably slightly worse than Brown, we should not do it.
 

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Marlin01 said:
There's a very big difference between immediately adding to the best 22 and providing cover. You say it as if it's the same thing. To add to the 22, said player would have to be better than Mackenzie or Glass. To provide cover, they'd only have to be 194cm+ and about 24 years of age.

If we can bring in a KPD that's better than Glass or Mackenzie then we should definitely do it. If we bring a player, presumably slightly worse than Brown, we should not do it.
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Well, in this scenario, if one of Glass or McKenzie was to go down, and assuming none of our other KPD prospects currently at the club are in the mix, do you want the mature age cover or the 18 year old stick to come in?

Exaggerated example, of course, but I think it is viable to bring in say a 21 year old guy that is already built for AFL football, to provide first choice cover. Rookie list them, even. Because, as it stands at the moment, we have barely any quality midfielders and no key defenders outside our first 22.
 
Forward Press said:
Well, in this scenario, if one of Glass or McKenzie was to go down, and assuming none of our other KPD prospects currently at the club are in the mix, do you want the mature age cover or the 18 year old stick to come in?

Exaggerated example, of course, but I think it is viable to bring in say a 21 year old guy that is already built for AFL football, to provide first choice cover. Rookie list them, even. Because, as it stands at the moment, we have barely any quality midfielders and no key defenders outside our first 22.
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I'd use Schofield as KPD cover and bring in a flanker type such as Smith to play Schofield's role. I'd also give McGovern a go, if need be.
 
Chris_6678 said:
Saints traded pick 12 and got Tom Lee , pick 24 and 43.

So maybe we trade Brown for Cripps and pick 24 and then pass on 24 plus a pick to Pies for Wellers leaving us with pick 17 still. Then we can trade Koby to Bullies for Pick 28?
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Yep happy with Brown for Cripps + 24 and Wellers for 24. Would like to pick up Pears if that eventuates, if not a mature KPD from one of the state leagues
 
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