Opinion Brownlow

[byebyexenxen]

He wasn't a run-with player in his BOGs.

That's why we need to release him.

 

[WCE_phil]

I just like to give a big shout out to the youngsters. Our top 3 polling players are all only 22 years old and we can hopefully expect even bigger and better seasons from them next year.

Also huge ups to scooter for out polling his famous brother joel.

 

[Mattman93]

Lol another backfire for Meltdown Mario after his running tally of Naitanui's votes ended with him being the highest polling ruckman this year

Link?

 

[Definitely Maybe]

That's why we need to release him.

I'm starting to come around to thinking this as well. The question is who does the role Selwood plays? Do we have anyone who can do it, or we need to bring someone in? I think McGinnity is too limited to play this role in the midfield. Adam Selwood for all his faults is our best small defender. Anyone else on the list capable? If we made a play for Wellingham, this is the role I see him playing.

 

[Ochre]

Link?

This is all I can find, as Hard_to_Beat went awfully quiet once Naita started polling.

Has the All Australian ruckman got a vote yet?

Ruckman votes

Sandilands - 5
Maric - 3
Goldstein - 3
Jacobs - 2
Hale - 1
All Australian ruckman - 0

NICNAT!!!!

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Yet he remains over rated.

More evidence he's over rated, the more credit Naitanui gets the higher he's rated over his actual output. Which is somewhere behind Will Minson from what ive heard.

 

[BradWCE]

This is all I can find, as Hard_to_Beat went awfully quiet once Naita started polling.

kane249 had a good response.

Since you haven't updated, also for Clay Davis

All-Australian ruckman 10
Cox 9
Sandilands 6
Jacobs 5
Rouchead 4
Hale 3
Maric 2

Looks like those selectors knew a bit more than you blokes?

 

[Eastern Rangers]

I'm starting to come around to thinking this as well. The question is who does the role Selwood plays? Do we have anyone who can do it, or we need to bring someone in? I think McGinnity is too limited to play this role in the midfield. Adam Selwood for all his faults is our best small defender. Anyone else on the list capable? If we made a play for Wellingham, this is the role I see him playing.

I thought McGinnity was going to be given a run with role at the start of the year, but they persisted with him on the half forward line. If he's going to get his spot in the side he needs to move to the midfield.

 

[Ochre]

kane249 had a good response.

No but Brownlow votes don't count.

They did early on, but after Nic started polling they dont count.

They're unrelated of course though

 

[Quinz]

So that's Champion Data (the unbiased statistics), the Coaches (AFLCA MVP), the Experts* (AA Selectors) and the Umpires (Brownlow) that had Naitanui as the best of the year out of him, Cox, Maric and Jacobs.

But yeah, I watched him a few times and he didn't seem to do much so he clearly shouldn't have been AA.. Jacobs got way too much praise for his season I thought, Maric had a better year.

*Used very loosely

Also I said half an hour before the event in a text to a mate that Watson/Cotchin would go 1/2, but didn't put anything on it. My own fault for deleting my sportsbet account because I never made any money.

 

[bodazoka]

I have used that same style of argument before in defence of Priddis Quinz, didnt work then either.

Hatters gunna hate.

 

[QS]

Less than New Orleans and the 49ers losing cost me, still end up down on the day. It's never fun punting in HoneyBadger land.

I worked it out. After outgoings I won $3. Lol.

 

[ziad]

The given is that it is a midfielders award. Glass was overlooked after several outstanding games.

Kerr was also not given cred for some games.

Our youth is our future.

But, it also showed that we don't have the gun mids or depth of strength midfield. When we are thrashed our mids are outclassed and out muscled muscled. Eg- martin against Tigers then Hawks, Swans, Crows and Pies - we we lost we lose big time midfield

easy to see where we need development.

Cothchen pick 2, masten pick 3 is an example. Time for a very big pre season and perhaps wise trading.

 

[MaxHunt]

I'm starting to come around to thinking this as well. The question is who does the role Selwood plays? Do we have anyone who can do it, or we need to bring someone in? I think McGinnity is too limited to play this role in the midfield. Adam Selwood for all his faults is our best small defender. Anyone else on the list capable? If we made a play for Wellingham, this is the role I see him playing.

Someone who is willing to sacrifice his game for the team or who perhaps doesn't have game? Someone who can play on talls and smalls? Someone who can play inside and outside? Doesn't need to be super quick as guys like Pendles, Thompson, Boyd, Mitchell, Watson etc are not either. Someone with a long neck perhaps to see whats coming up?

 

[QS]

Someone who is willing to sacrifice his game for the team or who perhaps doesn't have game. Someone who can play on talls and smalls. Someone who can play inside and outside. Doesn't need to be super quick as guys like Pendles, Thompson, Boyd, Mitchell, Watson etc are not either. Someone with a long neck perhaps to see whats coming up.

 

[ziad]

Someone who is willing to sacrifice his game for the team or who perhaps doesn't have game. Someone who can play on talls and smalls. Someone who can play inside and outside. Doesn't need to be super quick as guys like Pendles, Thompson, Boyd, Mitchell, Watson etc are not either. Someone with a long neck perhaps to see whats coming up.

I think Tim Watson's story is very relevant to a few of our mature fringe mids. Not fast the must get very strong, tough and skillful. Swift and Stevens crossed my mind - you can lead a horse to water but you can not make it drink.

 

[kiwiii]

I'm starting to come around to thinking this as well. The question is who does the role Selwood plays? Do we have anyone who can do it, or we need to bring someone in? I think McGinnity is too limited to play this role in the midfield. Adam Selwood for all his faults is our best small defender. Anyone else on the list capable? If we made a play for Wellingham, this is the role I see him playing.

Wellingham underrated to me because he's in a team of guns, would not be disappointed if we picked him up. Him and masto can share hairstyles and random tattoos too.

 

[kiwiii]

The given is that it is a midfielders award. Glass was overlooked after several outstanding games.

Kerr was also not given cred for some games.

Our youth is our future.

But, it also showed that we don't have the gun mids or depth of strength midfield. When we are thrashed our mids are outclassed and out muscled muscled. Eg- martin against Tigers then Hawks, Swans, Crows and Pies - we we lost we lose big time midfield

easy to see where we need development.

Cothchen pick 2, masten pick 3 is an example. Time for a very big pre season and perhaps wise trading.

not sure who cothchen is but he must be a flop cos i havent heard of him.

Masten > Cothchen

 

[Xsess]

Definition of insult to injury; losing a big game away by less than goal after a series of inexplicable umpiring decisions, and then having all five browlow votes go to the home team despite having the clear BOG (Kerr)

 

[BradWCE]

Definition of insult to injury; losing a big game away by less than goal after a series of inexplicable umpiring decisions, and then having all five browlow votes go to the home team despite having the clear BOG (Kerr)

You mean all six Brownlow votes. I don't think Kerr was the clear BOG at all, to me Beams was BOG that game and deserved the 3 votes. However, I thought Kerr was definitely better than Cloke and Swan who got the 2 and 1 votes.

 

[MaxHunt]

You mean all six Brownlow votes. I don't think Kerr was the clear BOG at all, to me Beams was BOG that game and deserved the 3 votes. However, I thought Kerr was definitely better than Cloke and Swan who got the 2 and 1 votes.

He got two cheapish goals from memory.

 

[Definitely Maybe]

I thought McGinnity was going to be given a run with role at the start of the year, but they persisted with him on the half forward line. If he's going to get his spot in the side he needs to move to the midfield.

If you wanted McGinnity to play a similar role to Crowley (pretty much totally negative), I can see him doing this. If you wanted him to play the role like Scott Selwood, Carrazzo, van Berlo and a few other run with players who also get the ball and use it reasonably well (not elite), then he'll have to improve a fair bit since I don't him as being capable of doing this right now.

 

[MaxHunt]

Scooter - 15
Kerr - 13
Cox - 12
Pridda - 8

Hey mate. Thinking of getting a OzTrail Tourer 9. Do you recommend it?

 

[EagleShore]

Definition of insult to injury; losing a big game away by less than goal after a series of inexplicable umpiring decisions, and then having all five browlow votes go to the home team despite having the clear BOG (Kerr)

I was shocked that Kerr didn't get 3 votes given they got the 1 and 2 and only won by a few points.

 

[BradWCE]

He got two cheapish goals from memory.

I suppose you're talking about Beams. Or maybe Cloke? If it's Beams then I remember the ones you're referring to. One was from an advantage call in the first quarter where all our players stopped and the other was from a free kick in the last quarter that probably wasn't there. Outside of that he was still very good. It's not like the umpires would take their own potential mistakes into account when deciding how well a player played anyway.