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Bruce Francis (Part3)

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Gigantor doesn't understand search functions. A bit like the Essendon players and Dank.
That's a bit unfair on Dank. Remember it was around the time Dean Wallis started to compile his database in June 2013, Dank's exhaustive search managed to unearth an unsigned letter from Alavi that conveniently stated it was the good Thymosin that was used. Amazingly that letter was dated February 2013.

I am somewhat bewildered how it got misplaced in the first place though. It could hardly have been buried under a pile of other paperwork that no one has been able to find :rolleyes:
 
Can't imagine watching a game where a chunk of players on one team have been proven to be on the gear but are allowed to play because it couldn't be proven exactly which players.

No winners there.

Francis seems to be cheering for that situation.
Should do it like back in high school. Someone does something wrong in class, but the teacher can't prove who did it. Nek minnit, everyone is in detention until someone fesses up. Bet you'll get some people talking then.
 
That's a bit unfair on Dank. Remember it was around the time Dean Wallis started to compile his database in June 2013, Dank's exhaustive search managed to unearth an unsigned letter from Alavi that conveniently stated it was the good Thymosin that was used. Amazingly that letter was dated February 2013.

I am somewhat bewildered how it got misplaced in the first place though. It could hardly have been buried under a pile of other paperwork that no one has been able to find :rolleyes:
it was with the reid letter, alleged vial photo ,asadas email of approval of something all in the penski file
 

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hoisted on your own petard , that pesky search function bit like the pesky ACC and Asada :)

But will he shut up and admit he was wrong? Never, that's not the Essendon way!

It was Chief's fault for allowing such an UNFAIR and ILLEGAL search function on bigfooty.

If things were fair, GG would have been able to prove he didn't say those things in five minutes flat.

He will be happy to provide the truth in the APPROPRIATE FORUM, and he will be in a very good place.

Etc.
 
im trying to register as well. Is this anything to do with the old bombertalk that was around many moons ago? i was a regular back then. trying to find another place to talk bombers as blitz just doesnt cut it for me.
Yep.
 
Hang on some of us are marked by the Tigers success how many supporters have had their club win 5 flags in there lives, dont worry the wheel turns and like those long suffering Cats supporters that waited 44 years between flags our time will come again.

Get in line, buddy!
 
Top stuff AT.

Old Brucey tapped out pretty quickly:

I suspect I am one of the few people who is being honest.

I acknowledge that some of them may have been administered TB4.

(But how can they possibly prove that time does in fact exist blah blah blah)
 
All discussion, including bruce's most recent, seems to be that you cannot prove what was in each syringe even if you can prove TB4 was provided to the club with the intention of giving it to the playing group. This is the last bastion my friends.
But can they prove that even if TB4 was in the syringe that it did not spontaneously turn into vitamin c before entering player body by a quantum freak accident?
 
But can they prove that even if TB4 was in the syringe that it did not spontaneously turn into vitamin c before entering player body by a quantum freak accident?
Travis Tygart took down Armstrong in a non-analytical* sanction. And the burden of proof is just balance of probabilities.

even the most hardcore Essendon fans like fishardansin and Lance Uppercut would agree that on balance of probabilities they took these growth hormone releasing supps. but they are also aware enough to know that Windy Hill are not on their lonesome. So, if they have wriggle room, wriggle and wriggle some more.

And I think the tribunal will try to pay some heed to ASADA, whilst leaving some hope for Windy Hill. A smack on wrist that can appease foamers a little. They will still foam. And tribunal inflict some pain for Windy Hill with a nod to ASADA and canberra pollies

6 weeks in season. mebbe 6 months. The tribunal will do the expedient, the political, they will hand down the non-decision decision. They will retro fit or reverse engineer it into ASADA regulations. It is not a tightrope, they cant satisfy everyone, but this is the decision they will "find". In this way, the decision has already been "found".

by seeking to satisfy everyone, they satisfy no-one. the political becomes the apolitical.

but what expediency does, it does rescue something for the game, is does rescue the game, and it reestablishes the veneer of plausible deniability.


#implausible_undeniability(sic)(sic)(sic)


caveat* non-analytical means not a positive urine or blood test. It does not mean a photo, a jpeg, or a CCTV capture with your bare arse with a needle saying hgh or testo or epo on it. it direct or indirect evidence. like the paper trail in Essendon's case.


btw. i hope they get off. but not crazy hardie jump shark sea kayaker, sea kayaker is euphemism right?

as long as the affal has learnt the lesson. All 18 clubs. not one club. everyone has to learn the lesson. Essendon have paid the price, prolly about 20 million in conservative estimates in finances, real terms, which takes into account brand damage, future sponsor revenue, gate receipts (future), future membership, and inversion of furtherance of brands (florid grammar intentional, gotta channel tanya note poynton hird)
 
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It's pretty straight forward AT, nothing has changed.

There is evidence that TB4 was ordered by Charter.
There is some evidence that it was prepared by Alavi.
There is some evidence that it was provided to Dank.
There is some evidence that it made it to the club.
There is some evidence that it may have been used on players.

As you progress down that series of statements, the certainty of the statement decreases.

If you're willing to end careers because players unwittingly may have taken a substance that might be performance enhancing then you're not as intelligent nor as reasonable as you've portrayed yourself.

Where did the word SOME come from.There is either evidence or not
 
Get used to GG disappearing... If Essendon players are suspended I suspect we'd never see the GG alias again... Keyboard warrior...

You would be worried if you had this bloke on your side in a footy game. When it gets a bit tough the GG/GIGANTOR would be asking for a spell on the "pine" but when it is easy he would be the first one out and running through the banner under the guise of "taking one for the team"
 
You would be worried if you had this bloke on your side in a footy game. When it gets a bit tough the GG/GIGANTOR would be asking for a spell on the "pine" but when it is easy he would be the first one out and running through the banner under the guise of "taking one for the team"

Pine box????????
 

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He has a habit of disappearing when either logic or his own rubbish has him trapped in a corner.

I have a good idea.

1. Compile several examples of GG lying or being forced to recognise reality.
2. Wait for him to show up and post more rubbish.
3. Respond to his posts by exclusively citing the above examples.
4. GG will never come back.
5. PROFIT!!!!
 
Travis Tygart took down Armstrong in a non-analytical* sanction. And the burden of proof is just balance of probabilities.

even the most hardcore Essendon fans like fishardansin and Lance Uppercut would agree that on balance of probabilities they took these growth hormone releasing supps. but they are also aware enough to know that Windy Hill are not on their lonesome. So, if they have wriggle room, wriggle and wriggle some more.

And I think the tribunal will try to pay some heed to ASADA, whilst leaving some hope for Windy Hill. A smack on wrist that can appease foamers a little. They will still foam. And tribunal inflict some pain for Windy Hill with a nod to ASADA and canberra pollies

6 weeks in season. mebbe 6 months. The tribunal will do the expedient, the political, they will hand down the non-decision decision. They will retro fit or reverse engineer it into ASADA regulations. It is not a tightrope, they cant satisfy everyone, but this is the decision they will "find". In this way, the decision has already been "found".

by seeking to satisfy everyone, they satisfy no-one. the political becomes the apolitical.

but what expediency does, it does rescue something for the game, is does rescue the game, and it reestablishes the veneer of plausible deniability.


#implausible_undeniability(sic)(sic)(sic)


caveat* non-analytical means not a positive urine or blood test. It does not mean a photo, a jpeg, or a CCTV capture with your bare arse with a needle saying hgh or testo or epo on it. it direct or indirect evidence. like the papar trail in Essendon's case.


btw. i hope they get off. but not crazy hardie jump shark sea kayaker, sea kayaker is euphemism right?

as long as the affal has learnt the lesson. All 18 clubs. not one club. everyone has to learn the lesson. Essendon have paid the price, prolly about 20 million in conservative estimates in finances, real terms, which takes into account brand damage and inversion of furtherance of brands (florid grammar intentional, gotta channel tanya note poynton hird)


yo 61 99 did you see this post? gave berth to the succour mom crowd


jenny61_99
 
I have a good idea.

1. Compile several examples of GG lying or being forced to recognise reality.
2. Wait for him to show up and post more rubbish.
3. Respond to his posts by exclusively citing the above examples.
4. GG will never come back.
5. PROFIT!!!!
we need more weasel words.

can i add,
6. furtherance of the brand
7. notes. as in, stenographer. see: "I take lots of notes"
 
But can they prove that even if TB4 was in the syringe that it did not spontaneously turn into vitamin c before entering player body by a quantum freak accident?
This syringe will self destruction in 5 seconds
 
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