Confirmed Bryce Gibbs [traded to Adelaide] - (cont. in Part 2)

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I'd ask crows fans to consider the following:
- crows supporters have conceded that if Gibbs was fa, we would have received pick 6 (band 1 compensation)
- the crows wanted Gibbs as they saw him as the last piece of their premiership puzzle - if they genuinely believed that, they would be expecting pick 18
- in points, pick 13 and 18 is worth approximately pick 4
- that 2 pick premium isnt that significant when you consider his 3 years remaining on his contract and the salary cap benefit you would have got for his contract (which Reid would have known was heavily front loaded as he negotiated the original deal)

2 first rounders sounds like a lot, but in the scheme of things, it's not completely unreasonable from our perspective.

I still maintain that what actually cost the crows the deal was Reid's terrible attitude and approach. Announcing on day 1 to be a big shot and take the limelight compromised our deals with gws who were holding out to see what you would give us for Gibbs as a result of reids grandstanding.

IMO - Reid shuts his mouth on day 1, we discuss in private, close out our gws and Geelong deals, and then push this through at the end for a first and a second. I'd be strongly considering moving Reid on - seems out of his depth
 

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I don't think the crows made all the moves, that photo was taken outside of Victoria and not in Adelaide.

Bryce had a fair say in the majority of what happened.
did he? the photo your showing was taken after the initial story came out that crows were after him. If your going to provide evidence at least be honest about it.
 
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Bryce approached us.

We offered what we thought was our maximum value.

You said no.

We move on.

It would have been grossly incompetent of the crows to give up 2 x 1st rounders for Gibbs.This is the bottom line you fail to comprehend.
your incorrect on the very first point.

you blokes were the ones who planted the seed in the lads head and absolutely initiated. you used the same approach that worked for you on eddie in which you groomed the lad for at least a year before he announced his decision.

you made a low ball offer thinking that would be enough because we wanted to get marchbank and wanted to keep pick 5. unfortunately for you blokes the guru had another plan unlike dumb and dumber.

it was grossly incompetent the way you blokes conducted yourselves which is what u have always failed to understand.
 
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No, you don't understand that board members are not involved in day to day operations.

You have been criticising how the Crows operated & hence criticising someone who wasn't even involved in the negotiations!

That makes you look like a clown!
and you don't understand the strategic direction is set by the board. in your situation my info is that after noble left then roo assumed a larger involvement and assumed greater responsibility while you undertook the extensive search that could only find someone in your own backyard.

i suggest young fella that u start understanding how your own club operates. why do you think dumb wasnt sacked - because roo was the one pulling the strings.

the great thing is you get to keep both dumb and dumber - hope they stay for a long time!
 
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and you don't understand the strategic direction is set by the board. in your situation my info is that after noble left then roo assumed a larger involvement and assumed greater responsibility while you undertook the extensive search that could only find someone in your own backyard.

i suggest young fella that u start understanding how your own club operates. why do you think dumb wasnt sacked - because roo was the one pulling the strings.

the great thing is you get to keep both dumb and dumber - hope they stay for a long time!
Roo as a board member is strategic - he is not operational & was not involved in trade negotiations...no matter what fanciful BS you sprout.

AFC's most incompetent manager, who tarnished the reputation of the club & oversaw our biggest sanctions ever... is funny enough your CEO... so you would know about dumb & dumber!
 
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your incorrect on the very first point.

you blokes were the ones who planted the seed in the lads head and absolutely initiated. you used the same approach that worked for you on eddie in which you groomed the lad for at least a year before he announced his decision.

you made a low ball offer thinking that would be enough because we wanted to get marchbank and wanted to keep pick 5. unfortunately for you blokes the guru had another plan unlike dumb and dumber.

it was grossly incompetent the way you blokes conducted yourselves which is what u have always failed to understand.
Can't believe you are still crying over a trade deal that didn't go through.

Seriously, you should seek therapy... as life is too short to worry about everything that doesn't go your way. :)
 

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Now we're all just rehashing stuff what's already been said.
Question, has Bryce done a spot of media for Carlton since the non-trade?


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proves nothing old sun. the media article was about the statement made by dumb and just confirms the crows wanting gibba.

the photo you posted earlier was a shot after the first stories were leaked by the crows in trying to mount pressure on the blues. From memory they stared pre grand final. your photo was taken post gf and was a happen chance meeting in cairns i believe with tex.

once again drewie you've been found to be distorting the truth which is the adelaide way.
 

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Lol, the crows will continue to trade like everyone else. It's not like this is the 1st trade in history that has fallen over.

You are such a drama queen & given the posting, one can only assume you were desperate to get rid of Gibbs for picks to rebuild, as no other logical explanation for your behaviour.

Better luck next time SOS finding a gullible club to accept your ridiculous demands. ;)
Wouldn't waste your data on that clown.
 

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proves nothing old sun. the media article was about the statement made by dumb and just confirms the crows wanting gibba.

the photo you posted earlier was a shot after the first stories were leaked by the crows in trying to mount pressure on the blues. From memory they stared pre grand final. your photo was taken post gf and was a happen chance meeting in cairns i believe with tex.

once again drewie you've been found to be distorting the truth which is the adelaide way.

I provided something. You have provided nothing.
 

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I provided something. You have provided nothing.
He figures if he can repeat the same thing over & wear people down.

I have never known a poster to be so upset over their club not trading a player. I can only surmise that he was banking on the Blues getting an unbelievable trade deal for Gibbs & frustrated the Crows didn't cave to be the laughing stock on a massive overs trade... & now looks to blame everyone else.
 
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I provided something. You have provided nothing.
You have provided rubbish drewie. we have done this before and ive shown u up as being the charlotten u really are. u cant claim as evidence statements from your club - please grow up.

go and enjoy the feeling of having tried to play with the big boys and being rag dolled around. Oh you blokes from regional centers are so embarrassing.

i suggest you enrol dumb and dumber in the new afl course - trading for dummies.
 
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He figures if he can repeat the same thing over & wear people down.

I have never known a poster to be so upset over their club not trading a player. I can only surmise that he was banking on the Blues getting an unbelievable trade deal for Gibbs & frustrated the Crows didn't cave to be the laughing stock on a massive overs trade... & now looks to blame everyone else.
kaneee im never upset when i contemplate the fact gibba is contracted, to us, for another three years. have fun watching thommo and mackay whilst contemplating the joke that is dumb and dumber.

face upto the fact u lost, we won, so stop trolling and crawl back to the Adelaide boards so u can gain strength in group think.
 
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Wouldn't waste your data on that clown.
ah what a wonderful contribution. but then again u of all people and seeing the club it makes perfect sence.

add something that is useful so i can shoot u down like i have the majority of the crow ferals.

understand this we wanted to keep gibba and have done so. if you come calling on guro be prepared to pay the price or stop wasting our time.
 
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kaneee im never upset when i contemplate the fact gibba is contracted, to us, for another three years. have fun watching thommo and mackay whilst contemplating the joke that is dumb and dumber.

face upto the fact u lost, we won, so stop trolling and crawl back to the Adelaide boards so u can gain strength in group think.
If you think winning is keeping a good player who won't play another final let alone a grand final, rather than using his currency to assist your rebuild, then good for you.

Adelaide would have lost big time if we swapped 2x 1st rounders for Gibbs. Any sane judge knows this... which is why you are so annoyed the deal was rejected by AFC.

Good luck with your rebuild, whilst we have a real crack at the flag... without Thommo or Mackay as significant contributors... with Sloane, Crouch boys, Smith, Douglas, Knight, Atkins, Cameron, Milera, Hampton, Seedman, Menzel, etc to be our main midfield contributors.
 
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ah what a wonderful contribution. but then again u of all people and seeing the club it makes perfect sence.

add something that is useful so i can shoot u down like i have the majority of the crow ferals.

understand this we wanted to keep gibba and have done so. if you come calling on guro be prepared to pay the price or stop wasting our time.
Lol, when you talking of shooting, I get this picture of you as Dick Cheney shooting poor old Whittington, mistaking him for a bird. Your aim is similar... ;)
 
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Good luck with your rebuild, whilst we have a real crack at the flag... without Thommo or Mackay as significant contributors... with Sloane, Crouch boys, Smith, Douglas, Knight, Atkins, Cameron, Milera, Hampton, Seedman, Menzel, etc to be our main midfield contributors.
Lots of C-Graders and not a lot of real power. Crows did well to get to 5th and despite having a gun forwardline and reasonable defence that midfield depth is quite poor.
 

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If you think winning is keeping a good player who won't play another final let alone a grand final, rather than using his currency to assist your rebuild, then good for you.

Adelaide would have lost big time if we swapped 2x 1st rounders for Gibbs. Any sane judge knows this... which is why you are so annoyed the deal was rejected by AFC.

Good luck with your rebuild, whilst we have a real crack at the flag... without Thommo or Mackay as significant contributors... with Sloane, Crouch boys, Smith, Douglas, Knight, Atkins, Cameron, Milera, Hampton, Seedman, Menzel, etc to be our main midfield contributors.
What makes you think McKay won't be a regular,? If he has basically un-droppable over the last few years, how bad will he have to play to get dropped next year? Although one could argue he hasn't been a significant contributor the last few years either.
 

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It would have been grossly incompetent of the crows to give up 2 x 1st rounders for Gibbs.
I don't think it was as binary as this. The better list managers show flexibility is vital in getting these types of deals done. Reid wasn't and barely moved from his original offer. Incompetence has many faces.
 

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Lots of C-Graders and not a lot of real power. Crows did well to get to 5th and despite having a gun forwardline and reasonable defence that midfield depth is quite poor.
Douglas aside, those midfielders are all young and still developing. Knight & Atkins I highly rate (reportedly Carlton wanted Atkins as part of any Gibbs trade at one stage) and I can't wait for Hampton to get on the park as he is supremely talented. Menz needs to get his tank up to scratch & he is starting 22 each week and Seed is an elite kick, our list is in decent nick.
And Douglas has won a B&F and has been an AA squad-listed a few times too, similar feats to someone from Carlton who wanted to come home in this years trade period...


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As a girlfriend's dad, who is a diehard Carlton man, said to me "I would have taken the 1st round pick and ran, but I reckon we did it to stick it your mob for taking Eddie and Jacobs from us, throw Menzel in there too!"


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