Roast Bryce Gibbs

[John Who]

Any speculation on him aside, I saw him yesterday out supporting the Bays in their win over Centrals. Love seeing players go back to watch their (and their fathers) former club play!

This is a good sign in that he still loves his footy!

 

[John Who]

Time off is often counter-productive in management of mental health problems, especially when boredom and having excess time is an enabler for addiction.

Way too simplistic to say he needs time off.

Only thing vaguely reasonable is that someone knows what is going on, and that's not us. The people that know have probably made reasoned decisions for their management actions (either purely football-related or dealing with cause and consequences of addiction).

If there is speculation that addiction/gambling is an issue AND it’s affecting his job functioning, then you can predict it will only deteriorate further if the addiction issue isn’t resolved.

So if it the speculation has merit, then time off to do counseling and refocus his mind would be beneficial for both the affected player and the footy club. Sending a player back to SANFL for addiction problems isn’t really going to change anything.

So really in a round about way, I think the rumour is BS.

 

[Bicks]

Sending a player back to SANFL for addiction problems isn’t really going to change anything.

So really in a round about way, I think the rumour is BS.

Might be the 1st post of yours I've ever given a like.

You are absolutely spot on, the only reason Bryce finds himself playing SANFL is solely football related and most likely down to him not consistently fulfilling the role the coach has assigned to him.

 

[SuperBashBros]

Might be the 1st post of yours I've ever given a like.

You are absolutely spot on, the only reason Bryce finds himself playing SANFL is solely football related and most likely down to him not consistently fulfilling the role the coach has assigned to him.

Nope

Love ya Bicks

 

[Bicks]

Nope

Love ya Bicks

So you're asserting an as yet supposed undisclosed event or events outside of football would influence Pyke's team selection processes.....bullcrap.

Even when Pyke has stated Gibbs non selection is purely a football/team on field related issue....yeah right.

 

[headache1]

Old mate on the portz board reckons a channel 9 exec told him today the rumours are all true, the media knows everything but aren't reporting it because Gibbs is separated from the mrs and the media are concerned for his mental health.

Reckons the crows paid off his debts before he came home on proviso he would stay out of gambling.

Surely that would come under salary cap?

Or they have nothing but unsubstantiated rumour and know they'll get sued out the ass for defamation by reporting said rumour with the heresay evidence they have to back it up.

 

[mcattack]

Or they have nothing but unsubstantiated rumour and know they'll get sued out the ass for defamation by reporting said rumour with the heresay evidence they have to back it up.

The old evidence didn't stand up in court This thread is getting pretty tired. Safe to say if it is true..... its staying under. Most likely isn't. Also safe to say Gibbs will be back. is with us till 2021 - finding a place for him is the problem atm.

 

[Deaneus!]

So you're asserting an as yet supposed undisclosed event or events outside of football would influence Pyke's team selection processes.....bullcrap.

If we don't know what the event is, how do we know whether or not it affected selection processes?

 

[1970crow]

Nope

Love ya Bicks

Are you saying that the reason that Gibbs was dropped and then yo-yod was entirely due to a gambling problem. So, effectively, they ignored it one week, but then decided it was too detrimental to him playing good footy the next before ignoring it the week after again and then again. Is that really what you’re saying.

 

[Sanders]

People linking Gibbs non-AFL selection to an alledged gambling issue, aren’t fully understanding what addiction is.

First of all, his AFL form although not excellent, has been better than half our footy team (during the games he played this year).

If indeed he is simply in debt, how is selecting him in SANFL/AFL going to change that? He’s still going to be paid according to his contract!

If his debt is due to a gambling addiction, then by the definition, he won’t be able to focus on his task/job and will flounder if he keeps playing. Yet, he’s still playing in the SANFL and performing in the top 5 or so players. Also if his head is in a mess, then the footy club should give him some time off, which has yet to happen.

One of your better posts

 

[Sanders]

Nope

Love ya Bicks

Like you’d have the first clue

 

[Stiffy_18]

If there is speculation that addiction/gambling is an issue AND it’s affecting his job functioning, then you can predict it will only deteriorate further if the addiction issue isn’t resolved.

So if it the speculation has merit, then time off to do counseling and refocus his mind would be beneficial for both the affected player and the footy club. Sending a player back to SANFL for addiction problems isn’t really going to change anything.

So really in a round about way, I think the rumour is BS.

It is not as straightforward as that! There are other factors at play and it’s not the bullshit rumours about bikies and crap like that.

 

[Sanders]

If we don't know what the event is, how do we know whether or not it affected selection processes?

I think we can be a little better than schrodingers selection committee

 

[Bicks]

If we don't know what the event is, how do we know whether or not it affected selection processes?

Try because Pyke said on the public record that Bryce's non selection is solely down to not consistently fulfilling his on field role that the coaches assigned.

Forgive me if I take the coach's word over social media rumour and innuendo until I hear different from a reliable and public source.

 

[Deaneus!]

I think we can be a little better than schrodingers selection committee

Does this mean our team is alive or dead and we don't know until we see them on the park?

Hey, that's pretty close to how it works for us. A couple minutes into a game we can usually tell if we're dead or not

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Try because Pyke said on the public record that Bryce's non selection is solely down to not consistently fulfilling his on field role that the coaches assigned.

Forgive me if I take the coach's word over social media rumour and innuendo until I hear different from a reliable and public source.

Sometimes it's not possible for the club to provide all the facts... which unfortunately means people speculate.

There is more to it & if you are not in the right head space, your form often suffers... so becomes a legitimate reason for dropping.

 

[mattymac]

I severely doubt any off field issues would be influencing his selection directly. The worry is that any off field issues are affecting his performance and therefore indirectly influencing his selection.

The issue was that he wasn't doing what he was supposed to in certain situations around stoppage and the vision was pretty bad. Definitely some lapses that cost us goals that a player of his experience shouldn't be showing.

The smoke is thick that he developed some off field issues back in the Carlton bubble. But I'm sure we would be doing everything to support him and I like that we're not giving it any oxygen in the media. He's one of ours now.

I'd like to see him back in the side playing Dougie's HFF role. I think he's a big upgrade in that position and offers good delivery inside 50 in particular.

 

[Bicks]

I severely doubt any off field issues would be influencing his selection directly. The worry is that any off field issues are affecting his performance and therefore indirectly influencing his selection.

The issue was that he wasn't doing what he was supposed to in certain situations around stoppage and the vision was pretty bad. Definitely some lapses that cost us goals that a player of his experience shouldn't be showing.

Excellent post Matty.

 

[1990crow]

I severely doubt any off field issues would be influencing his selection directly. The worry is that any off field issues are affecting his performance and therefore indirectly influencing his selection.

The issue was that he wasn't doing what he was supposed to in certain situations around stoppage and the vision was pretty bad. Definitely some lapses that cost us goals that a player of his experience shouldn't be showing.

The smoke is thick that he developed some off field issues back in the Carlton bubble. But I'm sure we would be doing everything to support him and I like that we're not giving it any oxygen in the media. He's one of ours now.

I'd like to see him back in the side playing Dougie's HFF role. I think he's a big upgrade in that position and offers good delivery inside 50 in particular.

Agreed. Get him back into the side and improve our weakest area of the ground.

 

[SellarStardom]

He is a definite upgrade on Douglas at HF, taller and can take a good overhead mark and generally nails the goals or delivery into the F50.

We have Gooch, why we need both Gooch and Dougy is beyond me.

 

[John Who]

It is not as straightforward as that! There are other factors at play and it’s not the ******** rumours about bikies and crap like that.

I'm not saying I know inside sources regarding Gibbs. I'm just talking hypotheticals but from an educated guess on whether the rumor of gambling addiction is likely or not.

It's easy to just say "it could happen, so I'm going to keep thinking it", but then you're none the wiser, right?

If you forget the word "gambling" and focus on the word "addiction", then by it's definition, one is likely to show a decline in physical/mental functioning as well as decrease in work/social output. Because effectively, one is focusing more and more on the habit of their addiction.
Think drug addiction, online addiction, gaming addiction etc.

So if the club knows Gibbs has an addiction problem (eg. gambling), it is in their best interest as well as Gibbs to let him undergo rehab on the addiction. Putting him back to SANFL, then back to AFL, then back to Emergency list, then back to SANFL, how in the F is that going to fix any addiction problem, gambling or otherwise?

 

[Stiffy_18]

I'm not saying I know inside sources regarding Gibbs. I'm just talking hypotheticals but from an educated guess on whether the rumor of gambling addiction is likely or not.

It's easy to just say "it could happen, so I'm going to keep thinking it", but then you're none the wiser, right?

If you forget the word "gambling" and focus on the word "addiction", then by it's definition, one is likely to show a decline in physical/mental functioning as well as decrease in work/social output. Because effectively, one is focusing more and more on the habit of their addiction.
Think drug addiction, online addiction, gaming addiction etc.

So if the club knows Gibbs has an addiction problem (eg. gambling), it is in their best interest as well as Gibbs to let him undergo rehab on the addiction. Putting him back to SANFL, then back to AFL, then back to Emergency list, then back to SANFL, how in the F is that going to fix any addiction problem, gambling or otherwise?

All valid point but like I said, there are other factors that complicate those thing that could have even a bigger physical/mental functioning. Its not drugs or anything like that. Its a very private matter and its not as simple as addiction/rehab. There are other factors at play.

 

[WetCrow1991]

He is a definite upgrade on Douglas at HF, taller and can take a good overhead mark and generally nails the goals or delivery into the F50.

We have Gooch, why we need both Gooch and Dougy is beyond me.

Because Douglas a servant of the club blah blah and does a good job taking out team mates with his body and with hospital handballs, so we gotta get games into him! He is only 32, so many years left.

 

[Mego Red]

All valid point but like I said, there are other factors that complicate those thing that could have even a bigger physical/mental functioning. Its not drugs or anything like that. Its a very private matter and its not as simple as addiction/rehab. There are other factors at play.

I find vague posts like this online to be deeply frustrating.

Either say something or don't.

Posts like this just seem like a cry for attention from the poster themselves. If you can't say something, then don't bother to post.

 

[azza77]

All valid point but like I said, there are other factors that complicate those thing that could have even a bigger physical/mental functioning. Its not drugs or anything like that. Its a very private matter and its not as simple as addiction/rehab. There are other factors at play.

So are we expecting him to come back into the side any time soon or? Still only playing home games?