Buckley & Colbert / Mercenaries

[Don]

The club formerly iknown as Collingwood have slid since Buckley's arrival culminating in their complete collapse after they appointing the mercenary.

Appointing a mercenary as captain is probably the lowest thing that a club can do.

Interesting too that Colbert has brought similar destruction upon Norff.

is this the football gods at work?

 

[Rooboy 96]

Question.

EXACTLY WHERE DID THE KANGAROOS FINISH, LAST, SECOND LAST?

Answer.

No fourth, had a shit of a year and beat 12 other teams, and the season ain't over yet.

 

[Barney]

Recruiting Colbert seemed like a good idea to take some pressure off Carey but has cost the club plenty.Welsh and Mooney would have been handy for the Roos this year and its no secret that players like Bell and King want similar deals to Colbert and wont be that happy to stay if they dont get the contracts they want..Colbert will need to show something next year and North will need to retain Bell and King to justify the Colbert deal..

 

[Rooboy 96]

Barney

Welsh was gone, he wanted to return to his family, as his brother died a couple of years ago, and homesickness got the better of him.

 

[Barney]

Rooboy..thanks for the info on Welsh..pity..I liked him as player and he has been ok at the crows.

Go Roos

 

[Magpie Mark]

Don,

Your logic is absolutely pathetic.

Every player is what you would call a mercanary. HOW MANY PLAYERS NOWADAYS COME UP THRU THE JUNIOR RANKS OF A CLUB? ANSWER: NONE, BECAUSE THE AFL DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

The draft system means every player comes to a club without playing junior football there. You need to get your head out of the clouds and put your feet on the ground.

 

[servo]

Buckley a mercenary??

He made it very clear from the day he walked into the Port Adelaide football club. His desire and intention was to play for Collingwood.

OK call him misguided or even demented but he aint no mercenary by the definition you are implying.

The only real mercenary I can think of was Geoff Raines who played for whatever club would pay him the most each year, hence numerous moves.

It seems to me that Colbert's move was due more to problems he percieved at Geelong rather than the desire for more money.

As with Rehn now, once you are disenchanted with a club and you make the decision to leave, of course money then comes into the equation. But it is very rarely the reason for the move, just an added bonus if it comes along.

By your logic then Wayne Carey, James Hird, Nick Holland, Luke Darcy etc etc etc are all mercenaries because they dare to seek more money at the end of their contract. What traitors they are. Surely they should just take whatever the club wants to pay them for fear of being percieved a mercenary.

And don't feed us the crap about Hird taking a pay cut. No-one believes he is going to be worse off under this contract. Especially James himself.

 

[Don]

Buckley is a mercenary, he showed no loyalty to those other clubs, and by his own admission wanted to go to Collingwood to play in finals.

Then appointing him captain was the act of a soul-less football club.

The results speak for themselves

 

[servo]

How does that make him a mercenary?

A mercenary is someone who works for the highest bidder showing no loyalty or scruples.

Yes Buckley did use Port Adelaide as a stepping stone but many players use SANFL for that purpose. Are they mercenaries too?

Who else I hear u say. OK here's just a few:-

Mcleod
Kilpatrick
Long
O'Loughlin
Holland
Ottens
Francou
Francis
Whitehouse
etc
etc
etc
etc

All of these were drafted by AFL clubs from the SANFL after either being delisted previously or choosing not to play in the under 18 competition.

Many if not most have or will play for more than one club. Are they all mercenaries or are you just another Buckley basher.

I know he went to the Bears for one season on an arrangement to go to Collingwood the next year. That was because of the AFL draft regulations which are a restraint of trade anyway. Had he not gone to the Bears and stood out of the game for a year ala Matthew Robran he would have lost money and been fined for perverting the draft or some such thing. He took the logical and sensible option of a season with Brisbane.

So he hasn't played finals for Collinwood as is his dream. That makes him more loyal than a lot of others and he should be respected for staying when he could get at least as much money at other clubs and play in the finals.

Your bias against Buckley and probably anything Collingwood after their prolonged unsuccessful period just demonstrates why he is a great player and they are a great club. Similar profile players in other equivalent clubs do not attract the wrath as he does. Why is that? And don't give me that figjam stuff. Have you ever met the guy? Have you ever sat down and talked football with him?

No of course you haven't so you dont really know his beliefs and goals and reasons for playing where he is.

Now you probably think I am a Collingwood supporter, well I'm not. As with most Sth Australians I take all Victoria based clubs with the same bias and respect as I do the others. In that light I have Buckley just below the likes of Carey & Hird and on a par with Kouta, McLeod & Kelly.

Your obvious dislike of Buckley probably really stems from jealousy. I am sure you would do a total backflip should he evr move to your club for the money.

And why did you not defend your opinion of Colbert with the same vigour as you did Buckley? Or was Colbert just thrown in to try and make your attack on Buckley appear balanced?

 

[Joel]

Fantastic post Servo! Job well done.

 

[Savatage]

You can add Joel Smith to your list!

What a hack!

 

[gocatsgo]

Add Fraser gherig to that list. I'm sure he'll end up at the highest bidder.

Colbert deserves to get his arse kicked next week.

GO DEMONS

 

[Rooboy 96]

When a Football Club offers its Captain who is only 25 a performance base contract, they have to expect trouble.

Geelong got what they asked for.

 

[Don]

Actually the point that I was making, is that often clubs that go for high priced mercenaries, and face it he was a Bears player, he had never played for Collingwood, he only went their to chase success, BY HIS OWN ADMISSION at the time.

The point was, that both clubs seemed to have payed the price for the decision to get the success chasing mercenaries.

They sold their souls so to speak and have since been soul-less clubs.

Collingwood's record since his arrival speaks for itself. There is no debate there.

The question is is that similar erosion happening at Norff, does this weekend erode that, or were they lucky to run into Hawthorn.

 

[Roylion]

Well as most know I support Brisbane and coming from the Fitzroy side of that very successful marriage, I also loath Collingwood. Even so, I still DON'T consider Buckley a 'mercenary' for having left Brisbane. He made it clear when he was drafted he wanted to play with Collingwood and went to the Bears on a one year contract. If he was a mercenary, then he wouldn't have stayed with Collingwood, when his contract came up for renewal a couple of years ago. There were other clubs desperately waving big fat cheques in front of him at the time, trying to lure him away and yet he chose to stay.

I'm not sure what you mean Don by these clubs are now soul-less because they chased mercenaries. If that was the case, every single club would be in that position. Don, name me a club that you consider to have a 'soul' and I'll name a Fitzroy player that was lured there by a bigger pay-cheque from about 1991 onwards? Roos, Broderick, Gale, Osborne, Armstrong, Lynch, Caven, Elliott, were but a few. Some were traded because Fitzroy had no choice, but to try and get something for them. Were the Fitzroy players who left, all mercenaries? If not, how can Buckley be considered one? The Bears, Buckley left were not that dissimilar to Fitzroy, in terms of talent and financial stability.