Roast Buddha

[Seeds]

Nah. Liked those 3 players better.
Gazza Jnr was only awesome for 4 seasons with us.

You mean the four seasons in which he won the competions mvp 3 times and wasnt far from a fourth? Do you not understand the gravity of such an achievement? Something scarlett never did once or even came close to. Also was the four seasons he started favourite in the brownlow. He played only a handfull of less games in those four years then what polly farmer did his entire career at geelong. Fine if you dont like him (he pisses me off too) but only ablett senior is even in the same conversation with him as geelongs greatest player of the past thirty years and then their is a masssive leap backwards to third place.

 

[Spazz Cat]

You mean the four seasons in which he won the competions mvp 3 times and wasnt far from a fourth? Do you not understand the gravity of such an achievement? Something scarlett never did once or even came close to. Also was the four seasons he started favourite in the brownlow. He played only a handfull of less games in those four years then what polly farmer did his entire career at geelong. Fine if you dont like him (he pisses me off too) but only ablett senior is even in the same conversation with him as geelongs greatest player of the past thirty years and then their is a masssive leap backwards to third place.

He can win as many awards as he likes.
If I had to choose the player who we needed the most and the more important to our team I'd pick Scarlett.
Got nothing against Jnr, I thought the same when he was still playing for us.
It's sometimes forgotten how good Scarlett was before those premiership years.

 

[RegHickeyStand]

He can win as many awards as he likes.
If I had to choose the player who we needed the most and the more important to our team I'd pick Scarlett.
Got nothing against Jnr, I thought the same when he was still playing for us.
It's sometimes forgotten how good Scarlett was before those premiership years.

Scarllett is the only fullback I have seen that when the ball was belted down to the goalsquare and he was one out, he enjoyed that. Meant he got to mark it, take off, and start a run-on. Rarely got beat one on one. It was the full-forward that looked worried when it came down.

 

[Farmer2Goggin]

Scarllett is the only fullback I have seen that when the ball was belted down to the goalsquare and he was one out, he enjoyed that. Meant he got to mark it, take off, and start a run-on. Rarely got beat one on one. It was the full-forward that looked worried when it came down.

Loved Scarlo - look at how he absolutely owned Westhoff in the 2007 GF - total masterclass

 

[Larry Donohue]

Controversial!!

I'd have Scarlett above Buddha, only because champion defenders are rarer than midfielders. Both made amazing contributions to the club and game.

Not afraid of a little controversy. Buddha played in a team that didnt quite have the tickets and stood out in a midfield of bairstow couch bews and for a while williams.
Scarlo played in a team with an impenetrable defense with the likes of harley milburn enright mackie egan taylor wojo hunt etc.
Buddha had to perform under more importance on his efforts in my opinion. The man was polished and had a head as hard as a bank safe.
Loved them both but buddha for mine. Still think Scarlo was better than silvagni though

 

[Larry Donohue]

I'd have Buddha 3rd best behind Gazza Snr and Scarlett for the best players I've seen in my lifetime.
Buddha was my favourite player out of all of them though.

Obviously didnt see polly Spazz Cat. He was 50 years ahead of his time

 

[Mad_Hatter]

Loved Scarlo - look at how he absolutely owned Westhoff in the 2007 GF - total masterclass

His 2007 Finals Series was a masterclass and thats underselling his 2007 as a whole.
Amazing year but an unbelievable finals series (1 goal conceded over the 3 games IIRC).

 

[Sttew]

As others have pointed out the one small area where Buddha let himself down was in finals. Admittedly he copped a corked thigh (I think) in one of the WCE GF's.

Scarlett delivered in finals in "spades"; he lived to play in GF's.

 

[Spazz Cat]

Obviously didnt see polly Spazz Cat. He was 50 years ahead of his time

No I didn't see him. I know how great he was though. Heard plenty and seen footage.
Just only wanted to judge players I'd seen.

 

[Spazz Cat]

Scarllett is the only fullback I have seen that when the ball was belted down to the goalsquare and he was one out, he enjoyed that. Meant he got to mark it, take off, and start a run-on. Rarely got beat one on one. It was the full-forward that looked worried when it came down.

I saw him completely destroy Barry Hall once when Hall was in good form too.
Beat him for strength in every contest, outmarked him, beat him on the lead.
Don't think Bazza even got a shot on goal.
On top of that he set up a lot of goals himself and even kicked one.
Brilliant. Can't be a more valuable player for your team than that.
Our best player of Naughties.

 

[Sttew]

I saw him completely destroy Barry Hall once when Hall was in good form too.
Beat him for strength in every contest, outmarked him, beat him on the lead.
Don't think Bazza even got a shot on goal.
On top of that he set up a lot of goals himself and even kicked one.
Brilliant. Can't be a more valuable player for your team than that.
Our best player of Naughties.

You could say our premiership tilt was built around Scarlett. For me, easily our most important player, and he delivered consistently.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

The 'feud' is overblown it existed when they played together and that worked out fine. Not all siblings are friends sad but true...

I remember we played North Melbourne back in that time between Blighty and Bomber. Down at Kardinia Park, I'm sure. Anyway, Brad and Craig Sholl were along the boundary line, at first wrestling then punching the merry hell out of each other. I laughed. Everyone laughed.

I don't think the Sholls actually hated each other - it was just competitiveness.

Does anyone know the origin of the Hocking Hate? Competitiveness? A woman? Something said while drunk on a footy trip?

 

[Sttew]

I remember we played North Melbourne back in that time between Blighty and Bomber. Down at Kardinia Park, I'm sure. Anyway, Brad and Craig Sholl were along the boundary line, at first wrestling then punching the merry hell out of each other. I laughed. Everyone laughed.

I don't think the Sholls actually hated each other - it was just competitiveness.

Does anyone know the origin of the Hocking Hate? Competitiveness? A woman? Something said while drunk on a footy trip?

Remember Joel Selwood bitch slapped his brother and copped a one week suspension. Can't remember if it was Adam or Troy, but it was a brother

 

[Larry Donohue]

No I didn't see him. I know how great he was though. Heard plenty and seen footage.
Just only wanted to judge players I'd seen.

Fair enough. Sad for you though. Happy i was around at the time

 

[Larry Donohue]

Remember Joel Selwood bitch slapped his brother and copped a one week suspension. Can't remember if it was Adam or Troy, but it was a brother

Was Adam at West Coast. Troy was at brisbane.

 

[Scottland2007]

I saw him completely destroy Barry Hall once when Hall was in good form too.
Beat him for strength in every contest, outmarked him, beat him on the lead.
Don't think Bazza even got a shot on goal.
On top of that he set up a lot of goals himself and even kicked one.
Brilliant. Can't be a more valuable player for your team than that.
Our best player of Naughties.

Kept Fraser Gherig goalless in a game (05)? And went forward and kicked one himself. Bloke is one of the best I've ever seen.... (Scarlet, not Gherig).

 

[Scottland2007]

Was Adam at West Coast. Troy was at brisbane.

Was just after Adam tried to clean him up and came off the worse for it.

 

[Down at K Park]

I remember we played North Melbourne back in that time between Blighty and Bomber. Down at Kardinia Park, I'm sure. Anyway, Brad and Craig Sholl were along the boundary line, at first wrestling then punching the merry hell out of each other. I laughed. Everyone laughed.

I don't think the Sholls actually hated each other - it was just competitiveness.

Does anyone know the origin of the Hocking Hate? Competitiveness? A woman? Something said while drunk on a footy trip?

I can't confirm it but apparently their wives hate each other, which caused huge dramas, and both sided with the wives and cut the others out of their lives.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

I can't confirm it but apparently their wives hate each other, which caused huge dramas, and both sided with the wives and cut the others out of their lives.

Bloody hell man, that's a c*nt of a thing. I'd probably divorce a wife more readily than cut a brother from my life. Hope they can sort it out

 

[dazbroncos]

There's lots of speculation.....

Most of it devoid of facts.

I have no idea myself. None.

Whatever the cause, im sure it can be overcome at some point.

However, I do hope that with Budda's kid coming thru that the Hocking family can at least be amicable and professional enough to get what's best for the kids sorted as well as the club.

May or may not be possible.

Regardless, im not sure that speculation as to the why's and wherefore's of 20 years ago will gain anything now.

Go Catters

 

[allrighty]

Do even you know what point your op is making? Is it pro buddha or anti buddha?

See above @#15

 

[Turkey Tom]

Great player no doubt but his Grand Final record was poor. Just seemed to be overawed on each occasion which is a shame as if he'd put one or two great performances together he'd no doubt be a premiership player and his legacy would be even more impressive.

Reminds me of him and Worsfold in the '94 GF. Buddha came into the game with a leg injury. Just to make sure, Worsfold gave him a kick in the leg in the 1st Quarter to see how it was. Hated Worsfold ever since.

Anyway....purely on the stats, his numbers are ok for the '92 and '94 GF, but I have wiped most of the games from my memory so can't remember how he went.

 

[Larry Donohue]

Was just after Adam tried to clean him up and came off the worse for it.

Should be illegal for an umpire to stop brotherly conflict

 

[RegHickeyStand]

Was just after Adam tried to clean him up and came off the worse for it.

Yes, it was just a push off from an annoyed player who had just been lined up. I think the reasoning was that Adam MAY have been injured after he came off second best while trying to take Joel out of the game. It was a time when the Hawthorn run AFL tribunal was inventing new and weird reasons to put our champs out of the game. They targeted both Joel and Stevie back then with some logic defying suspensions.

 

[Scottland2007]

Yes, it was just a push off from an annoyed player who had just been lined up. I think the reasoning was that Adam MAY have been injured after he came off second best while trying to take Joel out of the game. It was a time when the Hawthorn run AFL tribunal was inventing new and weird reasons to put our champs out of the game. They targeted both Joel and Stevie back then with some logic defying suspensions.

Yep. I remember that time well. Remember when James Kelly got a week for a bump that nearly made high contact? The reasoning "potential to injure".