Buddy Franklin vs Wayne Carey

[Aido97]

If you call being more dominant in more games of footy than any other player in our lifetimes as 'overrated', we have different definitions of the word...

He wasnt. He was a very good player on a very good team. There were plenty of others in his era who were better

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

He wasnt. He was a very good player on a very good team. There were plenty of others in his era who were better

Name the plenty of players then

 

[Banyo Bloods]

Watching Carey crash the pack and take his chest mark three deep over the top was something. He changed momentum and killed ya as an oppo supporter.

I think Buddy is right up there but the Carey nightmare (Opp supporters) was worse in his prime

 

[Scotland]

The only thing they have in common is they weren't known for their overhead marking.

Would like to have seen them in each other's era. Buddy's paddock would've been 100+ goals a year but he would've had to contend with defenders like SOS hanging off him. Carey would've had to deal with a more congested forward 50 and defensive zones rather than 1 on 1s, but would get 50+ frees a year the way he played. The main thing to Buddy's advantage is he's not as stubborn. Carey when he was more mobile than Jakovich would try to beat him one on one to prove he was stronger - which he wasn't. If Franklin could get separation against Jakovich and mark out in front each time he would.

 

[Marlo]

He wasnt. He was a very good player on a very good team. There were plenty of others in his era who were better

Name the plenty of players then

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

Carey said the best he'd ever seen and played against was Dunstall. That's a pretty big wrap coming from him.

 

[Tugga27]

If my aunty had balls she'd be my uncle.

Not these days.

 

[Aido97]

Name the plenty of players then

Dunstall, Ablett, Lockett, Richardson, Tredrea, Lloyd, Pav and Riewoldt just from players who played a similar position

 

[JZTIME!]

The only thing they have in common is they weren't known for their overhead marking.

Would like to have seen them in each other's era. Buddy's paddock would've been 100+ goals a year but he would've had to contend with defenders like SOS hanging off him. Carey would've had to deal with a more congested forward 50 and defensive zones rather than 1 on 1s, but would get 50+ frees a year the way he played. The main thing to Buddy's advantage is he's not as stubborn. Carey when he was more mobile than Jakovich would try to beat him one on one to prove he was stronger - which he wasn't. If Franklin could get separation against Jakovich and mark out in front each time he would.

Carey was a brilliant overhead mark. Often holding onto them while being body spoiled and arm chopped. Shoulder recos and him bulking up meant he would leap less and body for more chest marks, but his hands were elite overhead.

 

[Xtreme]

Buddy was better than Carey

Jonathan Brown was better than both combined.

 

[Scotland]

Carey was a brilliant overhead mark. Often holding onto them while being body spoiled and arm chopped. Shoulder recos and him bulking up meant he would leap less and body for more chest marks, but his hands were elite overhead.

Before he got injured sure. The fact he was just as dominant without that aspect of his game showed how good he was.

 

[Mute Point]

Dunstall, Ablett, Lockett, Richardson, Tredrea, Lloyd, Pav and Riewoldt just from players who played a similar position

Just to confirm you're saying all these players listed were better than Carey?

Also I'd like to confirm you're not trolling & not posting while partaking in legal or illegal substances?

 

[jwikked]

Dunstall, Ablett, Lockett, Richardson, Tredrea, Lloyd, Pav and Riewoldt just from players who played a similar position

Ablett might be the only one I'd take ahead of Carey, otherwise It's Carey all day. Carey was better than Buddy, but they played in different eras.

 

[ferball]

The only thing they have in common is they weren't known for their overhead marking.

Would like to have seen them in each other's era. Buddy's paddock would've been 100+ goals a year but he would've had to contend with defenders like SOS hanging off him. Carey would've had to deal with a more congested forward 50 and defensive zones rather than 1 on 1s, but would get 50+ frees a year the way he played. The main thing to Buddy's advantage is he's not as stubborn. Carey when he was more mobile than Jakovich would try to beat him one on one to prove he was stronger - which he wasn't. If Franklin could get separation against Jakovich and mark out in front each time he would.

Carey took overhead marks until his shoulders were ruined, which was very early in his career.

 

[Scotland]

Just to confirm you're saying all these players listed were better than Carey?

Also I'd like to confirm you're not trolling & not posting while partaking in legal or illegal substances?

Not only are they better they played a "similar position". Apparently.

Unfortunately modern stats only started being kept around 98/99 when most of the star forwards of the 90s were finishing up. Carey at his peak would've had 80 contested marks and 150 inside 50s a season, IMO.

Carey had 113 inside 50s in 1998. Lockett had 6. Dunstall had 3. On career averages Carey had 7.5 kicks per game that were not scoring shots. Lockett had 1.5, Dunstall 2.6. Because they played in an era of true FF and CHF positions. Stewart Loewe made the AA side kicking 43 and 45 goals, but he was 2nd in the comp for marks and probably number one for contested marks. That was his job. Carey kicked as many goals as most FF (not Lockett, Dunstall and Ablett in his later years) playing CHF.

 

[Outtatym]

Dunstall, Ablett, Lockett, Richardson, Tredrea, Lloyd, Pav and Riewoldt just from players who played a similar position

I gather you were born in 1997, which explains it

 

[Thrawn]

People who say Franklin haven't watched any games in the 90s when Carey was dominant.

 

[kanga kanga kanga]

Dunstall, Ablett, Lockett, Richardson, Tredrea, Lloyd, Pav and Riewoldt just from players who played a similar position

if your not trolling, your probably the worst poster of all time

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

Carey was captivating. A machine. How about that ripper soccered goal in the 98 gf. Or the banana from the boundary vs essendon in 99. A gun. He dominated centre half forward like no other. Smashed Geelong in 99 also with 9 goals.

 

[Towmotar]

I'd say Carey for his ability to win games off his own boot.
Not the topic, but has anyone come close to Bud for goals kicked from outside 50?

 

[Outtatym]

I'd say Carey for his ability to win games off his own boot.
Not the topic, but has anyone come close to Bud for goals kicked from outside 50?

Sav Rocca would be up there you'd think

 

[Aido97]

Just to confirm you're saying all these players listed were better than Carey?

Also I'd like to confirm you're not trolling & not posting while partaking in legal or illegal substances?

Better or of similar quality with nowhere near the chugging

 

[209751819]

Wayne Carey

 

[Fadge]

if your not trolling, your probably the worst poster of all time

I suspect most of the players listed would be completely embarrassed for the poster if they read the post...

 

[crowman2]

Buddy was better than Carey

Jonathan Brown was better than both combined.

As an oppo supporter if I had to choose who we played, Carey was frightening, we played smart hart and caven on him all at the same time and he beat all three of them, he was unstoppable

Buddy couldn’t do that