Rumour Buddy to retire at seasons end?

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If someone retires it changes everything. Same in any business.

Or maybe a player should be forced to play on. Modern slavery and all that
Not when the club was explicitly told that if Franklin were to retire before the end of his contract, the remain portion of his contract will be carried forward for the length of that contract
 

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How will players maximise their earnings if clubs don't honor the offer they made?

PS I know you're a troll, but these arguments deserve replies in case there's anyone out there who actually thinks any team shouldn't be held accountable for restricted free agency offers
What are Daft argument mate you know there is a salary cap for every team and no matter what he's paid a year it has to fit under that anyway
 

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What are Daft argument mate you know there is a salary cap for every team and no matter what he's paid a year it has to fit under that anyway

Yes, I know there is a salary cap for every team, and players need to be paid in a way that it fits under the cap.

That's why paying 10 million over nine years is a risk. A risk that doesn't have a safety net, no matter how much you feel entitled to be caught if it goes wrong.

Hawthorn has set precedent for this by including Vickery's entire RFA contract in their cap after retiring early. Hawks were happy to do it, too. It's the rules.
 
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Im sure banging his supermodel wife on Bondi beach while he sleeps on a bed full of pineapples soothes that pain

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Two things.

1. She’s no supermodel.

2. I’m sure he’s enjoyed the move, but you’re kidding yourself if you think he wouldn’t regret missing out on being a 4 time flag winner.


He went to Swans to win flags, he failed.

I still love watching him play, so hopefully this isn’t it.
 

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I'm sure the AFL will slip a few more $$$ under the table to them to make up any loss

Hi So82.

No need for AFL underhandedness in assistance of Club Bloods.
They could simply stump up the sizeable shortfall seen in this instance between numbers 3 and 9, from their competitive balance black book.
That should suffice if Buddy The Blood bids bye bye.

[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.6)]How much each club was paid by the AFL:
1. GWS Giants $21,548,374
2. St Kilda $18,566,589
3. Western Bulldogs $17,610,181
4. Brisbane Lions $17,532,922
5. Gold Coast Suns $17,194,594
6. North Melbourne $15,022,303
7. Melbourne $14,799,452
8. Port Adelaide $13,206,665
9. Sydney Swans $12,488,957
10. Richmond $12,358,925
11. Essendon $11,914,715
12. West Coast Eagles $11,703,240
13. Hawthorn $11,614,683
14. Carlton $11,607,942
15. Collingwood $11,304,689
16. Geelong Cats $10,787,483
17. Fremantle Dockers $10,563,307
18. Adelaide Crows $10,553,565[/COLOR]
 
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Hi So82.

No need for AFL underhandedness in assistance of Club Bloods.
They could simply stump up the sizeable shortfall seen in this instance between numbers 3 and 9, from their competitive balance black book.
That should suffice if Buddy The Blood bids bye bye.



[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.6)]How much each club was paid by the AFL:
1. GWS Giants $21,548,374
2. St Kilda $18,566,589
3. Western Bulldogs $17,610,181
4. Brisbane Lions $17,532,922
5. Gold Coast Suns $17,194,594
6. North Melbourne $15,022,303
7. Melbourne $14,799,452
8. Port Adelaide $13,206,665
9. Sydney Swans $12,488,957
10. Richmond $12,358,925
11. Essendon $11,914,715
12. West Coast Eagles $11,703,240
13. Hawthorn $11,614,683
14. Carlton $11,607,942
15. Collingwood $11,304,689
16. Geelong Cats $10,787,483
17. Fremantle Dockers $10,563,307
18. Adelaide Crows $10,553,565[/COLOR]


How in gods name did we get more than the tin rattlers down the road - does that include the premiership cash or something?
 
Hi So82.

No need for AFL underhandedness in assistance of Club Bloods.
They could simply stump up the sizeable shortfall seen in this instance between numbers 3 and 9, from their competitive balance black book.
That should suffice if Buddy The Blood bids bye bye.

[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.6)]How much each club was paid by the AFL:
1. GWS Giants $21,548,374
2. St Kilda $18,566,589
3. Western Bulldogs $17,610,181
4. Brisbane Lions $17,532,922
5. Gold Coast Suns $17,194,594
6. North Melbourne $15,022,303
7. Melbourne $14,799,452
8. Port Adelaide $13,206,665
9. Sydney Swans $12,488,957
10. Richmond $12,358,925
11. Essendon $11,914,715
12. West Coast Eagles $11,703,240
13. Hawthorn $11,614,683
14. Carlton $11,607,942
15. Collingwood $11,304,689
16. Geelong Cats $10,787,483
17. Fremantle Dockers $10,563,307
18. Adelaide Crows $10,553,565[/COLOR]

Off topic, but those Suns numbers are interesting. Not the off-field burden that many nuffies would have us believe. At least not in relative terms anyway.

How in gods name did we get more than the tin rattlers down the road - does that include the premiership cash or something?

Yes, plus finals attendance revenue.
 
Forget the whole Buddy rumour, how's all the braindead *******s in here that still mindlessly spout s**t about Sydney being looked after.
- We receive less assistance than half the league.
- Have been on the positive side of a season free kick count once in the last 15 years
- Had an AFL commissioner threaten that he'd make us pay before removing a retention allowance and giving us a trade ban for doing absolutely nothing wrong
- Lost a Grand Final that was impacted by what is now widely accepted to be some of the most dubious umpiring ever seen in the history of the game.
Oh and that's while the AFL have been happy for us to spend 1 million a year of our own cash to develop the game in Sydney because they tried and failed.
 

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Hi So82.

No need for AFL underhandedness in assistance of Club Bloods.
They could simply stump up the sizeable shortfall seen in this instance between numbers 3 and 9, from their competitive balance black book.
That should suffice if Buddy The Blood bids bye bye.

[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.6)]How much each club was paid by the AFL:
1. GWS Giants $21,548,374
2. St Kilda $18,566,589
3. Western Bulldogs $17,610,181
4. Brisbane Lions $17,532,922
5. Gold Coast Suns $17,194,594
6. North Melbourne $15,022,303
7. Melbourne $14,799,452
8. Port Adelaide $13,206,665
9. Sydney Swans $12,488,957
10. Richmond $12,358,925
11. Essendon $11,914,715
12. West Coast Eagles $11,703,240
13. Hawthorn $11,614,683
14. Carlton $11,607,942
15. Collingwood $11,304,689
16. Geelong Cats $10,787,483
17. Fremantle Dockers $10,563,307
18. Adelaide Crows $10,553,565[/COLOR]

That may be the official figures but it doesn't show the under the table funds the AFL gives to the Swans, GWS and Gold Coast to try and stay relevant in their respective areas. Also not sure on the relevance of the Sydney connection to the "Bloods", the name ceased to exist when South Melbourne was disbanded in the 80's and the VFL created their love child in Sydney.
 

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If he retires and they have to pay him,surely they would just get him to sit in a tent at the SCG, signing autographs and trying to sell memberships and merch
or try and trade him and let someone else take the salary hit or part of it
or get him fit enough to play 10 or so games a year for 3 more years just to get some value
 

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Hi So82.

No need for AFL underhandedness in assistance of Club Bloods.
They could simply stump up the sizeable shortfall seen in this instance between numbers 3 and 9, from their competitive balance black book.
That should suffice if Buddy The Blood bids bye bye.

[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.6)]How much each club was paid by the AFL:
1. GWS Giants $21,548,374
2. St Kilda $18,566,589
3. Western Bulldogs $17,610,181
4. Brisbane Lions $17,532,922
5. Gold Coast Suns $17,194,594
6. North Melbourne $15,022,303
7. Melbourne $14,799,452
8. Port Adelaide $13,206,665
9. Sydney Swans $12,488,957
10. Richmond $12,358,925
11. Essendon $11,914,715
12. West Coast Eagles $11,703,240
13. Hawthorn $11,614,683
14. Carlton $11,607,942
15. Collingwood $11,304,689
16. Geelong Cats $10,787,483
17. Fremantle Dockers $10,563,307
18. Adelaide Crows $10,553,565[/COLOR]
Wow, it’s the VFL keeping Melbourne, North Melbourne, St Kilda and Footscray afloat.
 

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That may be the official figures but it doesn't show the under the table funds the AFL gives to the Swans, GWS and Gold Coast to try and stay relevant in their respective areas. Also not sure on the relevance of the Sydney connection to the "Bloods", the name ceased to exist when South Melbourne was disbanded in the 80's and the VFL created their love child in Sydney.

Hi So82.
No doubt it can be quite confusing for some, this relocation type transaction.

Good God, I can't see them anymore. They must have popped off.

The moving from one spot to another is not necessarily cessation, inspite of them/they no longer being based over the road.
They have simply moved, like your neighbours most likely have over time and again quite regularly.

Oh, I see, there they are.

So, once a Blood, always a Blood. Just jumped post codes chap. Mind boggling quite possibly for the inward.

As for your money concerns, no doubt with the heavy southern state representation in AFL management, I am quite possitive on the possitive.

Cheers chap.
 
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Forget the whole Buddy rumour, how's all the braindead *******s in here that still mindlessly spout s**t about Sydney being looked after.
- We receive less assistance than half the league.
- Have been on the positive side of a season free kick count once in the last 15 years
- Had an AFL commissioner threaten that he'd make us pay before removing a retention allowance and giving us a trade ban for doing absolutely nothing wrong
- Lost a Grand Final that was impacted by what is now widely accepted to be some of the most dubious umpiring ever seen in the history of the game.
Oh and that's while the AFL have been happy for us to spend 1 million a year of our own cash to develop the game in Sydney because they tried and failed.
Afl: We want to make inroads into nsw and
Qld

Vic clubs : wah they won a flag and we didnt

Afl : stops things that help make inroads into qld and nsw
 

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AFL will invent an escape clause and bail them out.

But in all honesty, we were all surprised if he was to see out the full 9 year contract.
Even Swans fans said at the time even if he only plays out 7 of the 9then it is still worth it.
Marketing $$$ and premierships.
The first one probably worked out but the 2nd one is looking doubtful at this stage
Can confirm the bulk of his money is structured as Marketing dollars not under any cap which was drawn up in a move to NSW with his manager. He just switched teams & it's the reason why the AFL took so long to tick the move to Sydney off. He will play in 2020.
 

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Two things.

1. She’s no supermodel.

2. I’m sure he’s enjoyed the move, but you’re kidding yourself if you think he wouldn’t regret missing out on being a 4 time flag winner.


He went to Swans to win flags, he failed.

I still love watching him play, so hopefully this isn’t it.

He would have loved to win p'ships as a bonus but that's not why he went.
More to life than that.
 

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LOL, on what grounds? The AFL didn't enact the rule after you signed it, they warned you straight up when you lodged it, and you went ahead and signed him anyway. :$

Typical Sydney, always thinking the rules don't need to apply to them.



Buddy isn't being forced to play on though, the Swans are just being compelled (in line with the league's rules) to honour the deal/bid they initially lodged within their TPP cap.

So when any player chooses to retire for his club before his contract has ended, those future payments he will no longer receive , have to be included in the salary cap of the club in future years?
A recent example being Tom Boyd
 

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He would have loved to win p'ships as a bonus but that's not why he went.
More to life than that.

The Salty Hawks supporters on here see their players as slave like commodities: the club can callously discard them when they want, but when the player leaves for a better offer, the player is a traitor.
It's very strange logic
 

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The Salty Hawks supporters on here see their players as slave like commodities: the club can callously discard them when they want, but when the player leaves for a better offer, the player is a traitor.
It's very strange logic
The Pokies Family Club.
Dump their legends.
Mitchell to WC.
Hodge to Brisbane.
Lewis to Melbourne.
Roughy no send off.
All while they've gone out in straight sets & look likely to miss finals.

Buddy did the right thing.
 

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So when any player chooses to retire for his club before his contract has ended, those future payments he will no longer receive , have to be included in the salary cap of the club in future years?
A recent example being Tom Boyd

Tom boyd was traded though, bypassing the rules around free agency. Sorry man but you're just wrong.

If buddy retires, the Swans don't have to actually pay him anything, but the rest of his contract will be included in the salary cap.

I look forward to seeing this thread again next year though, and probably the year after as well.
 

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Tom boyd was traded though, bypassing the rules around free agency. Sorry man but you're just wrong.

If buddy retires, the Swans don't have to actually pay him anything, but the rest of his contract will be included in the salary cap.

I look forward to seeing this thread again next year though, and probably the year after as well.

Sorry man but you're just wrong.

It's about the contract duration and salary for any given player. Not how a player came to another club
 
So when any player chooses to retire for his club before his contract has ended, those future payments he will no longer receive , have to be included in the salary cap of the club in future years?
A recent example being Tom Boyd

Nope, it only counts for restricted free agents (Buddy, Tom Lynch, Coniglio if he goes) whose amount could've been matched by their former team. The same rule existed for when players were recruited via the pre-season draft, but that doesn't really happen anymore.

Any other player contract (like Boyd's) can be settled by both parties, with any unpaid money not counting against the cap.
 

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