Buddy's regret

How would you characterise his decision?

  • Understandable at the time

    Votes: 8 50.0%
  • One that would lead to regrets

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • An unmitigated disaster

    Votes: 1 6.3%
  • A nightmare from which he cannot leave

    Votes: 2 12.5%
  • Should have gone to GWS and married Jessinta

    Votes: 5 31.3%

  • Total voters
    16

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ManOfClay

Brownlow Medallist
Jan 27, 2012
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Haven't you got anything better than that ? Face it you won your one flag in 62 years by the umpires blatantly cheating because they got carried away with the fairytale of the Tin Rattlers from the West winning a premiership. Hang your hat on it because I can guarantee you are more chance of being back on Barkly Street begging for your survival than winning another one any time soon. Pathetic Football Club who thrives on sympathy from those who love a good story. We squibbed it in 2014 but in 2016 we were just plain old shafted. Any neutral who has not got their head in their **** would acknowledge it.Fact. Good to see you getting down and getting dirty in the trenches on here opposed to your usual pontificating with your pretend journalists hat on Btw.


Revisiting this for a Christmas laugh. How much did your blood pressure rise over the course of this gem of a meltdown?
 

threesixpio

Brownlow Medallist
Jun 28, 2013
29,900
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Hawthorn
Haven't you got anything better than that ? Face it you won your one flag in 62 years by the umpires blatantly cheating because they got carried away with the fairytale of the Tin Rattlers from the West winning a premiership. Hang your hat on it because I can guarantee you are more chance of being back on Barkly Street begging for your survival than winning another one any time soon. Pathetic Football Club who thrives on sympathy from those who love a good story. We squibbed it in 2014 but in 2016 we were just plain old shafted. Any neutral who has not got their head in their **** would acknowledge it.Fact. Good to see you getting down and getting dirty in the trenches on here opposed to your usual pontificating with your pretend journalists hat on Btw.
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RUNVS

Hall of Famer
Feb 28, 2007
46,075
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Excuse my ignorance... I thought clubs could not talk to players who are in contract ? Surely conducting a medical constitutes “talking to” ?

No, if Buddy wants to go to Andrew Ireland's house, and he wants to take off his clothes while a man with a degree in medicine looks over Buddy's body then that is their business. You are not going to kink shame Ireland or Buddy. I won't allow it.
 

Godzke

Brownlow Medallist
May 13, 2009
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The only certainty Buddy had when he left Hawthorn was the money. Sydney were a safe bet to at least be competitive for years to come (and have proven that) so it's not like he joined a cellar dweller team.

With 4 years (i think) to run on his contract, he probably knew from a long way out that this contract would outlast his body. I think he's got one more year in him before his body packs in. What are the rules around contract payouts on retirement due to injury? Do players get a percentage of the remaining contract (outside the cap presumably) or is it all finished the day he retires?
 

Luv_our_club

Norm Smith Medallist
Feb 14, 2017
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The only certainty Buddy had when he left Hawthorn was the money. Sydney were a safe bet to at least be competitive for years to come (and have proven that) so it's not like he joined a cellar dweller team.

With 4 years (i think) to run on his contract, he probably knew from a long way out that this contract would outlast his body. I think he's got one more year in him before his body packs in. What are the rules around contract payouts on retirement due to injury? Do players get a percentage of the remaining contract (outside the cap presumably) or is it all finished the day he retires?

For a FA all of the money must go into the cap, guaranteed, regardless of whether the player has retired or not. Sydney must carry that bill.

Otherwise, the club and the player can come to agreements about how much money they are paid and when they retire (but the money originally agreed will always be in the cap),
 

beta_condition

Norm Smith Medallist
Oct 14, 2011
9,667
13,499
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Hawthorn
The only certainty Buddy had when he left Hawthorn was the money. Sydney were a safe bet to at least be competitive for years to come (and have proven that) so it's not like he joined a cellar dweller team.

With 4 years (i think) to run on his contract, he probably knew from a long way out that this contract would outlast his body. I think he's got one more year in him before his body packs in. What are the rules around contract payouts on retirement due to injury? Do players get a percentage of the remaining contract (outside the cap presumably) or is it all finished the day he retires?
Depends if they were a restricted free agent or not, in Franklins case his salary will be in the Sydney cap until the contract finishes, nonnegotiable. Well least in terms of decreasing the amount.
 

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Carl Spackler

Club Legend
Jul 29, 2018
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I don't like this thread. Buddy was a champion of the club. He made the horribly misguided decision to join the Swans, but he's carried that burden. It's well, well, well past time to let go of the fact that we were second picked for the prom. He chose the ugly girl. It happens.
 

Stan_Darsh72

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Jun 18, 2011
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I don't like this thread. Buddy was a champion of the club. He made the horribly misguided decision to join the Swans, but he's carried that burden. It's well, well, well past time to let go of the fact that we were second picked for the prom. He chose the ugly girl. It happens.
How was it misguided, getting paid great money, setting himself up for life, being the face of football in Australias biggest city and he is out of the fishbowl that is Melbourne, if anything he weighed up all options and went for the long term gain.

Premiership medals might look good in the pool room but they do not pay his bills, his mortgage, his petrol or his peace of mind.
 

threesixpio

Brownlow Medallist
Jun 28, 2013
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For a FA all of the money must go into the cap, guaranteed, regardless of whether the player has retired or not. Sydney must carry that bill.

Otherwise, the club and the player can come to agreements about how much money they are paid and when they retire (but the money originally agreed will always be in the cap),
Play him in the back pocket from now on
 

Carl Spackler

Club Legend
Jul 29, 2018
2,406
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How was it misguided, getting paid great money, setting himself up for life, being the face of football in Australias biggest city and he is out of the fishbowl that is Melbourne, if anything he weighed up all options and went for the long term gain.

Premiership medals might look good in the pool room but they do not pay his bills, his mortgage, his petrol or his peace of mind.

Because the Swans suck.

QED