Bugg v Stretch - who will play more games in 2018?

Discussion in 'Melbourne Demons' started by Sprout, Feb 8, 2018.

Put it out there
?

Place your bets.

  1. Bugg

  2. Stretch

Results are only viewable after voting.
  1. The Wrecker

    The Wrecker All Australian

    Melbourne
    Other teams:
    NEC Nijmegen, Sunderland
    Joined:
    Dec 08
    Posts:
    950
    Location:
    Luxembourg
    I wonder if Billy will make it. He's not really a super quick, break-the-lines type of player. Nor does he have much of an inside game or is he a penetrating kick. As an aside I hate how he wobbles the ball from side to side before he kicks.
    With Bugg, you know he can tag, can run all day and is an excellent overhead mark.
     

    (Log in to remove this ad.)

  2. Topkent

    Topkent Brownlow Medallist

    Melbourne
    Other teams:
    Winnipeg Jets
    Joined:
    Aug 10
    Posts:
    25,728
    Location:
    Canada
    Billy has got decent vision but neither have any elite AFL traits so they are in a giant pool with about 300 other AFL hopefuls where they have to out work their teammates and opposition in every department or they will be delisted.
     
    Cannon82 and schmuttt like this.
  3. mrmonkey

    mrmonkey Club Legend

    Melbourne
    Other teams:
    Joined:
    Dec 10
    Posts:
    2,612
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Stretch for me only because I think there will be more opportunity for stretch to crack into the team.
     
  4. Tempy Tiger

    Tempy Tiger Premiership Player

    Melbourne
    Other teams:
    Joined:
    Sep 06
    Posts:
    3,747
    I think Stretch because he’s obviously so hungry for it. Perseverance is a hell of a thing and I reckon he’s going to will himself to become a solid AFL player. He’s going to have to toughen up though because he looked gun shy last year.
     
    Demonkings likes this.
  5. Bazza97

    Bazza97 Club Legend

    Melbourne
    Other teams:
    Joined:
    Nov 16
    Posts:
    2,776
    Location:
    Melbourne
    I'm confident Stretch will be a good long-term player for us. I don't think he has any glaring weaknesses in his game nor does he have a point of difference. That's fine, he's a good all-rounder I reckon. Best way to describe him as a player would be that he's neat. Already regarded for being one of the most professional players at our club, he'll give himself every opportunity. I think he's going to be one of the more interesting players to watch at our club this season.
     
  6. demondavey

    demondavey Cancelled

    Melbourne
    Other teams:
    Joined:
    Apr 05
    Posts:
    16,458
    Bugg will atone
     
  7. Demon 16

    Demon 16 Norm Smith Medallist

    Melbourne
    Other teams:
    Joined:
    Jun 09
    Posts:
    9,403
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Wonderful little group of Stretch, Bugg, ANB, Melksham, Harmes and a couple of others vying for the last few spots in the 22.

    Our list is getting better and better.
     
    Tempy Tiger likes this.
  8. DeesFanTheMan

    DeesFanTheMan Premium Platinum

    Melbourne
    Other teams:
    Chicago Cubs
    Joined:
    Feb 18
    Posts:
    252
    I voted Stretch but after reading some of the discussion I am more on the fence. Hope they both have massive seasons.
     
  9. schmuttt

    schmuttt Premium Platinum

    Melbourne
    Other teams:
    West Ham United
    Joined:
    Apr 14
    Posts:
    15,646
    Surprised to see people rating Bugg above Hannan earlier in the thread. Hannan has genuine X factor, majority of his goals this year were half chances that most of our list wouldn’t have been able to take. As a forward I’m taking Hannan every time over Bugg.

    Just on Stretch, I have been a big fan but I don’t see him being on our list in 2 years time if he doesn’t improve his kick:handball ratio. For a guy who is meant to be outside he gets sucked into the contest too much and whilst he goes bloody hard for a small guy he is pretty useless there at AFL level. If you asked this board 12 months ago who will be better out of ANB and Stretch you’d probably get everyone (Including me) saying Stretch looks good and ANB wont make it.
     
  10. PerfectFooty

    PerfectFooty Perfect Cell

    Melbourne
    Other teams:
    Williamstown Seagulls
    Joined:
    Apr 13
    Posts:
    10,295
    Location:
    Benalla
    Hannan is the perfect medium tall. Can clunk a mark and get up in the air, but can also be a cumber at ground level. Assuming his endurance will increase this year. Truth be told i was sad about losing Watts, but i felt okay with it in the end because i know Hannan will take his role easily
     
  11. Topkent

    Topkent Brownlow Medallist

    Melbourne
    Other teams:
    Winnipeg Jets
    Joined:
    Aug 10
    Posts:
    25,728
    Location:
    Canada
    Hannan has the quickest hand to foot on our list and his ability to be front and centre is only second to Garlett. Also is very comfortable in traffic so can push up to half forward and do damage as well.

    Also agree re- stretch. He spends far too much time sucked into the contest which is the reason he would have been dropped. I see no reason he can't play the exact same role as Neal Bullen other than he might night have the football intelligence that ANB does. Clearly has the fitness.
     

    (Log in to remove this ad.)

  12. schmuttt

    schmuttt Premium Platinum

    Melbourne
    Other teams:
    West Ham United
    Joined:
    Apr 14
    Posts:
    15,646
    Hannan won’t have the elite games that Watts could but we will get far more consistency of effort throughout games and the season.
     
  13. Gysberts2Bate

    Gysberts2Bate Brownlow Medallist

    Melbourne
    Other teams:
    Joined:
    Jun 13
    Posts:
    13,279
    Location:
    Melbourne
    ANB is in his own category, and Melksham and Harmes are just below it
     
    pjfairbairn likes this.
  14. CTHORANGE

    CTHORANGE Club Legend

    Melbourne
    Other teams:
    Joined:
    May 12
    Posts:
    2,558
    Location:
    Over There
    Yeh Hannan could certainly kick a bag, but he won't be setting up goals for fun like Watts did when he was on
     
  15. Cannon82

    Cannon82 Brownlow Medallist

    Melbourne
    Other teams:
    Joined:
    Oct 12
    Posts:
    11,988
    We're not going to miss Watts. Some will lament his kicking skills when some lump shanks one into the forward 50, but Watts was hardly teeing up goals on a regular basis. He's equal 8th with TMac on the Dees list for goal assists in 2017, which includes being behind one Mitch Hannan in equal 6th.
     
  16. CTHORANGE

    CTHORANGE Club Legend

    Melbourne
    Other teams:
    Joined:
    May 12
    Posts:
    2,558
    Location:
    Over There
    A goal assist stat, in the AFL... really?
     
    DeesFanTheMan likes this.
  17. Cannon82

    Cannon82 Brownlow Medallist

    Melbourne
    Other teams:
    Joined:
    Oct 12
    Posts:
    11,988
    Yup. Get your Yankee Doodle on.
     
  18. Tulip

    Tulip Brownlow Medallist

    Melbourne
    Other teams:
    Tottenham
    Joined:
    May 09
    Posts:
    29,548
    Stretch will have the same kind of season as ANB last year I reckon. Perhaps a but of time finding his role in the first half of the year, but in 12 months time he will be best 22.
     
  19. KickLongTackleHard

    KickLongTackleHard Club Legend

    Melbourne
    Other teams:
    Chelsea FC
    Joined:
    May 08
    Posts:
    2,322
    Location:
    Perth
    I still find it hard to define what Stretch brings over others. From all reports, a great trainer, but on the park I want to see him bring something that not many others can.
     
  20. Tempy Tiger

    Tempy Tiger Premiership Player

    Melbourne
    Other teams:
    Joined:
    Sep 06
    Posts:
    3,747
    It’s just being a link up player. We are probably weaker in this area than anywhere else as has been well documented. He just needs to be a great runner with a good work ethic and beat foot skills. All of which he can do. Plus he’s a good finisher in front of goals. He just looks a bit timid occasionally.
     
  21. Fork n Hell

    Fork n Hell Senior List

    Melbourne
    Other teams:
    Joined:
    Mar 18
    Posts:
    235
    Bugg is way ahead of billy at this stage imo. While hes a bit unpolished Bugg cracks in and doesnt like to get beat and keeps running defenders ragged and can play more positions. I would like to see billy back at casey and dominate in the vfl for a while as it would be good for his confidence, before he gets a call up again. He doesnt seem to do anything exceptionally well at this stage of his career.
     
    ponsdale likes this.