Autopsy Bulldogs continue to make less and less sense as they beat 2nd placed Carlton without key players

[Mutt]

Our home game but plenty of Carlton scarves and hats before the game - it felt like a Carlton home game inside the stadium.

I ate in Hardware Lane after the game, and red, white and blue colours were abundant. Could not see a single Carlton scarf or hat. It was glorious.

Sanders looked more at home in a game with lots of stoppages. I thought he looked more comfortable than at any other time this season. He can block and disrupt the opposing team's tags and stoppage system. Seems to be an intelligent footballer. He might just be the next Libba. Wouldn't that be awesome!?

Buku is taking some flack from some on here, but I'd just ask that we remember that he is not a key position defender but was asked to take on one of the game's most dominant forwards and really curbed his influence. Curnow's 10 scoring shots speak to his frustration and selfishness more than any real risk that he was going to tear the game apart. Curnow blazed way and received a good run again from the umpires. Buku deserves our respect for that game - he is not a key defender but gave a more than passable impression of one last night.

Dale was very, very good, and I'd also like to give Libba a shout-out. His bravery and determination are awe-inspiring and as someone else pointed out earlier - his deft touch is back. Libba gave the Carlton mids a torching.

All-in-all, it was a very satisfying outing for all Bullies fans in attendance.

 

[geoffjennings79]

Fev had his set shit routine looking ace!

Hmmmm

 

[SPower]

Interesting comment by Voss.Can still remember how Essendon used to smash into Grants back every time he backed into the hole at CHB.It’s part of footy - if you are going to put yourself there for the team,expect some contact….


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Scotty Wynd was great for us taking the bash and crash too.

 

[Next Waiting]

Hmmmm

Puts a new perspective on inner sanctum

 

[grassman75]

Dale, Cripps, Jammarah should be the 3 best on. I’d go in that order.

No West? 4 goals at critical times to

 

[JohnnySteel]

West reminds me so much of Greene, they play very similar.


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[geoffjennings79]

West reminds me so much of Greene, they play very similar.


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I suspect Rhylee's greater off field IQ, lack of criminal charges and lack of onfield assaults is where any similarity ends!

 

[Benaly28]

Come in peace.

Brilliantly executed game plan last night by far the better side especially with your outs.

Speed killed us on that form should make top 8.

Shout out to West very underrated small forwards killed us.

Well done.


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[Fossie 32]

Come in peace.

Brilliantly executed game plan last night by far the better side especially with your outs.

Speed killed us on that form should make top 8.

Shout out to West very underrated small forwards killed us.

Well done.


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Ta mate good luck to the Blues

 

[Del165892]

Was this the best umpired game in history? Watching the replay with no emotion attached, there weren't many contentious calls at all.

 

[Fossie 32]

Scotty Wynd was great for us taking the bash and crash too.

It was pretty heroic when we played the Saints and Plugger

 

[ScottyDogg]

Gallagher has to come out of the team next week - 5 touches, 2 of which were turnovers and 2 frees against. I think he'll be a good player but he is so so overdue for a spell. Just isn't impacting games

Hats off to all of our smalls. Watching the replay we again saw our best footy when Bevo allowed (was forced?) to play a much greater diversity of smalls/mediums around the stoppage. Same as in the fourth quarter against the swans. There was a real mix going through there in the 2nd and 3rd quarters especially.

If we’re to do anything this year it’s not going to be on the back of our A grade talls or first string mids carrying us. We need a rotation of the following group getting a chance to relentlessly attack the stoppage or pressure around its edges: West, Garcia, Weightman, McNeil, McRae, Sanders, Poulter, Horse, VDM, Harmes, Gallagher, Daniel, and Scott.

Everyone of those players can cover the ground and contribute elsewhere, while taking the pressure off Libba, Bont, Treloar, and Richards who cannot do it week in week out on their own. Let’s use the depth of the list instead of flogging the likes of Gallagher every week.

If we think about 2015-2016 it was the diversity and depth through our midfield that made us a contender. Picko, McLean, Wallis, Hunter, Dahl, Dunks, Daniel, Libba, Stringer, Bont, McCrae, Jong etc.

 

[Claudonious]

Name names then. Lame cop-out.[/

The whole list then? Every one of them would have missed a shot at goal from 15 out…..



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[grassman75]

Was this the best umpired game in history? Watching the replay with no emotion attached, there weren't many contentious calls at all.

Agree….they were even pretty consistent with the HTB interpretation.

Still makes zero sense to me that if you just drop the ball when tackled that it’s ok

 

[BrisDog]

Dale, Cripps, Jammarah should be the 3 best on. I’d go in that order.

Reckon Rhylee West was as influential as JUH.

 

[bullish23]

Still makes zero sense to me that if you just drop the ball when tackled that it’s ok

That makes more sense than picking up the ball, instantly jumped upon with one arm pinned, and then HTB is called.

It’s a complete mess, and it’s driving me away from the game.

 

[geoffjennings79]

Yeah, umps were less than sh1t. Low bar though, still collectively a blight on the game. (And g'day to my AFL umpiring mates! )

 

[BrisDog]

Libba’s hand ball over his head, centre circle, early in the third that led to Westy’s goal from the centre bounce was sublime.

In fact Libba’s first 10 mins in the third was brilliant.

 

[Next Waiting]

Was this the best umpired game in history? Watching the replay with no emotion attached, there weren't many contentious calls at all.

I thought the early Bailey Williams one was pretty harsh but I guess it set the tone. Didn't look like prior to me .... as we've known it.

 

[grassman75]

I thought the early Bailey Williams one was pretty harsh but I guess it set the tone. Didn't look like prior to me .... as we've known it.

That’s what I mean though, if he just dropped it cold, he would (should) have gotten away with it

 

[Dogs Rule]

That makes more sense than picking up the ball, instantly jumped upon with one arm pinned, and then HTB is called.

It’s a complete mess, and it’s driving me away from the game.

If you want to see how much the game has changed re HTB and yes it's a very different era now and we play in much different conditions, but still have a look at this.

Today, there would be 50 frees in the last 5 minutes of this match.

 

[Testekill]

https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/07/14/footy-fix-undermanned-outgunned-undaunted-the-trick-play-that-saw-bevos-bold-bulldogs-conquer-carlton

Interesting breakdown of a couple of really good tactical moments.

 

[fargy]

Feel Bailey Williams needs some props. There was a fair amount of him being questioned early in the year, & that was probably fair enough. But I think he’s consistently in our top ten players week in week out. I’m not sure if it’s as good as his year in 21 (GF aside), but it wouldn’t be too far off.

 

[dogwatch]

I tell you what doesn’t make sense. Most of our shit supporters bagging how players constantly. Aussie rules is a tough game at any level. Even tougher at AFL level. The competition has never been tighter and the speed of the game never been faster.
Support players that’s your job not to criticise and bag. Especially some younger players.
...
We have a solid team and we have gone through some transition. Be patient and supportive. End of the day it’s just a game.
Go doggies

Are you saying we shouldn't post with honesty?

Should we only post here if it's a puff piece?

Think about it.
What would be the point of such a forum? Who would bother coming here?

Don't tell me what my job is. I'm all for supporting the club and posting glowing praise of players and staff when it's due. But I think we should call out things that we think are wrong. Or the things that are stopping us realising our potential. And to analyse why they are happening and suggests ways to improve.

I'm not in favour of belittling, demeaning or abusing players. I have repeatedly posted in the past that we should only post criticisms that we'd be prepared to make face-to-face with that player. People sometimes laugh at that but it's a good test for yourself before posting. I think it helps in coming up with a fairer commentary, even if it still has to be a critical one.

The most engaging threads and posts here are the ones created by people who think critically, analytically, creatively and fairly. Who aren't blinded by their Bulldog faith. Who acknowledge shortcomings and look for constructive solutions. Who come up with original thoughts and new takes. I don't agree with every one of them but they enrich the experience of being a Dogs supporter. I sometimes even give a 'like' to a post that I disagree with if it has been argued well (or is funny).

Are there people here who bag players constantly? Yes there are a few and sometimes they annoy me too. But they are a small minority. Most people here have a reasonable level of discernment and fairness. And quite a lot of them are prepared to own up to being wrong or unfair in their earlier criticisms.

Go doggies!

 

[grassman75]

Are you saying we shouldn't post with honesty?

Should we only post here if it's a puff piece?

Think about it.
What would be the point of such a forum? Who would bother coming here?

Don't tell me what my job is. I'm all for supporting the club and posting glowing praise of players and staff when it's due. But I think we should call out things that we think are wrong. Or the things that are stopping us realising our potential. And to analyse why they are happening and suggests ways to improve.

I'm not in favour of belittling, demeaning or abusing players. I have repeatedly posted in the past that we should only post criticisms that we'd be prepared to make face-to-face with that player. People sometimes laugh at that but it's a good test for yourself before posting. I think it helps in coming up with a fairer commentary, even if it still has to be a critical one.

The most engaging threads and posts here are the ones created by people who think critically, analytically, creatively and fairly. Who aren't blinded by their Bulldog faith. Who acknowledge shortcomings and look for constructive solutions. Who come up with original thoughts and new takes. I don't agree with every one of them but they enrich the experience of being a Dogs supporter. I sometimes even give a 'like' to a post that I disagree with if it has been argued well (or is funny).

Are there people here who bag players constantly? Yes there are a few and sometimes they annoy me too. But they are a small minority. Most people here have a reasonable level of discernment and fairness. And quite a lot of them are prepared to own up to being wrong or unfair in their earlier criticisms.

Go doggies!

Well said DW. There is a difference between bagging players and expressing disappointment at something they do in a game (yeah I know I say “x” is a potato sometimes. We get frustrated. It reminds me of that scene on the Late Show all those years ago when Mick Molloy went heckling people in their normal job. I’m trying to find it to post but haven’t had any luck