Play Nice Bye Bye Brad #3 [Locked: BS signs 2-year ext. Aug-2017, tied to NM until end 2020]

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Love a couch coach that could do a better job. Never played or been involved at the highest level yet is an expert.
Like you're an aficionado. You can't even answer one simple question. Why do Sporting Organisations of Note have Coaches? Your views on this topic are irrelevant. :stern look
 

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Deflective post yet again...yawn
Why is it deflective? You listed a whole bunch of guys that did play together last year and were coached together last year. I pointed this out, and explained how you are full of crap. It's no wonder you get sucked into the Scott sell.

Open your eyes.
 
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O-5 and losing more.

No win since July.

It doesn't need an argument to realise the obvious.

Scott has failed and with every week we continue with the *head in charge is a week late.
 

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Why is it deflective? You listed a whole bunch of guys that did play together last year and were coached together last year. I pointed this out, and explained how you are full of crap. It's no wonder you get sucked into the Scott sell.

Open your eyes.
I make statement.

You say I can't back it up.

Back it up.

You come back with more nonsense.
 

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You'll never convince "quality" pro Brad posters.

They are blind/stupid.
Informed punters recognise that changing coaches at this point would have relatively little impact.

It's just not that big of an issue at the moment.
 

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I make statement.

You say I can't back it up.

Back it up.

You come back with more nonsense.
I'm typing this slowly so hopefully you can understand.
Brad was the coach of the following players last year:
Preuss
Turner
Hibberd
Durdin
EVW
Wagner
Clarke
Mountford

Your comment is bullshit and you're too blinded to see.
 

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Informed punters recognise that changing coaches at this point would have relatively little impact.

It's just not that big of an issue at the moment.
In theory i agree. However i think that the coach needs to realise that the current approach he is taking with certain senior players is not working and needs to change. Our ability to win is currently being hamstrung by decisions of our own making.
 

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In theory i agree. However i think that the coach needs to realise that the current approach he is taking with certain senior players is not working and needs to change. Our ability to win is currently being hamstrung by decisions of our own making.
Yes, the main concern is certain blokes with 100 plus games under their belts, but bringing in underdone kids would have us shut out of games even earlier.

When we played truckloads of underdone kids at the same time between 2008 to 2011, we copped some frightful beltings.
 

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I'm typing this slowly so hopefully you can understand.
Brad was the coach of the following players last year:
Preuss
Turner
Hibberd
Durdin
EVW
Wagner
Clarke
Mountford

Your comment is bullshit and you're too blinded to see.

Again deflect the issue by attacking the poster who doesn't agree with your simplistic solution to where we are atm.

My point is that those 11 players did not play at the Club in 2016 or had a minimal games/time and to compare the performance of the team in 2016 against the teams we have fielded in 2017 is non sensical.
 

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Yes, the main concern is certain blokes with 100 plus games under their belts, but bringing in underdone kids would have us shut out of games even earlier.

When we played truckloads of underdone kids at the same time between 2008 to 2011, we copped some frightful beltings.
I understand that but to my mind that ain't necessarily the case here. Case in point is Swallow. Would replacing his 67% game time,15 touches and significant lack of impact with someone like Anderson, Wagner or Clarke impact the overall result? Or would removing LT and adding another midfield rotation (and enabling JZ to spend a little more time forward) impact similarly? I don't think so.
 

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Yes, the main concern is certain blokes with 100 plus games under their belts, but bringing in underdone kids would have us shut out of games even earlier.

When we played truckloads of underdone kids at the same time between 2008 to 2011, we copped some frightful beltings.
Collingwood loved us though. Sigh.
 

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Yes, the main concern is certain blokes with 100 plus games under their belts, but bringing in underdone kids would have us shut out of games even earlier.

When we played truckloads of underdone kids at the same time between 2008 to 2011, we copped some frightful beltings.
Indeed. Then we had Boomer single out a few of our young ones.

"In a radio interview on ABC, a shattered Brent Harvey pointed the finger and named names, saying it was time for Sam Wright and Lachie Hansen to step up and show their potential.

"I think it is more our young guys not towing the line - the guys between 21-years and 25-years old - Sam Wright, Lachie Hansen - when are they going to step up?" Harvey said."
 

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Again deflect the issue by attacking the poster who doesn't agree with your simplistic solution to where we are atm.

My point is that those 11 players did not play at the Club in 2016 or had a minimal games/time and to compare the performance of the team in 2016 against the teams we have fielded in 2017 is non sensical.
Did not play at the club? I distinctively remember seeing their player profiles on the North Melbourne website last year.

But what your saying is that these guys all played together at The Bees. So again I point out, you think Brad only has an influence on their development on game day. Game day is only a small part of the development of the team, but if you are too silly to understand this then so be it.

Comparing this years team to last year is perfectly legitimate.
 

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I understand that but to my mind that ain't necessarily the case here. Case in point is Swallow. Would replacing his 67% game time,15 touches and significant lack of impact with someone like Anderson, Wagner or Clarke impact the overall result? Or would removing LT and adding another midfield rotation (and enabling JZ to spend a little more time forward) impact similarly? I don't think so.
Lindsay brings a manic forward pressure that no replacement on our list could bring. He is involved in a majority of our forward pressure. It's his offensive output that is missing.

Spittas numbers would be better if he wasn't sacrificing his onball time. He simply gets found out in space. Replacing him with a pure outside type will hurt us on the inside where the play is created.

Jack........well geez.........I long for the time when we can reduce his in and under clearance requirements and get him more on the outside. He will become a 50% more damaging player.
 

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Did not play at the club? I distinctively remember seeing their player profiles on the North Melbourne website last year.

But what your saying is that these guys all played together at The Bees. So again I point out, you think Brad only has an influence on their development on game day. Game day is only a small part of the development of the team, but if you are too silly to understand this then so be it.

Comparing this years team to last year is perfectly legitimate.
Hrovat and Williams...were in my 11 that you asked me to name...they weren't there in 2016.

So Brad Scott went down and Coached on Game Day at Werribee?

Better Coach than I gave credit.
 
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