Opinion Bye Bye Clarko

[Themanbun]

It's pretty simple, mate. Konstanty never stops chasing when the ball's in his area.

The number of other players we have currently who do that: none.

The players we have who might do that down the track: Dovaston and Banch. Trembath at a stretch. Showed defensive aptitude in those three games. X tries his guts out but is hampered by the fact he moves like an oil tanker.

Konstanty is absurdly lacking in skill with the ball but he has a spot until someone displaces him. Your mate Zurhaar could've been one of the best two way forwards in the game, going by some of his performances as a 21 year old. But sometime around covid he gave up the idea and is now a large part of the reason why Konstanty is a mainstay

You and I agree on a lot but this is one thing I disagree with my friend.

Effort and attitude are the only thing at footy clubs that are contagious. And you'd be surprised with the right training how much someone's skill and athleticism can be improved.

Give me a shit campaigner who's a shit campaigner despite all his best efforts over a shit campaigner who's a shit campaigner because he doesn't care enough to try, any day of the week.

 

[CharlieMortdecai]

Don't we already have one of these threads that could have been bumped? Probably from six weeks into Clarko's reign

 

[Krakouer Bonar]

Its extroadinary.

The same collective of nuffies that pranced around society, beating their chests and shouting from the rooftopos over his appointment are the same group of collective nuffies that are baying for his blood, wanting him strung up from a tree.

Now where's that Ubernuff nuff that was circulating that petition!!

 

[WesternRoo]

He’ll be here for at least 26 and probably half of 27.

I don’t think he’s moving us out of where we are and we’re not going to pay him out an extraordinary amount of money.

I expect a decent coaching clean out next year.

The worst period in our history is yet to close.

There is no way he stays beyond the bye this year if the season looks anything like the previous 2.

I’m not sure what the payout will be, but it will need to happen.

Barlow or whoever can then see the season out, strictly play the kids (Which will mean the end of Daniels, Logues, Pinks and maybe even Parker) and get the best available assistant from a high placed club at years end.

If we lose a couple of players, so be it, it would to be expected.

But under no circumstance can anything but a noticeable rise not occur this first part of the season.

What also can’t occur is we then replace Clarko with another recycled coach like Longmire or Simpson.

We need a new approach from a young, competent coach and the team he brings.

 

[tales129]

Is this what it felt like in the 80s

 

[Tas]

I hope he can turn things around, but the pattern of poor skills, poor defensive pressure and the lack of adapting to the modern game and the general lack of progressive improvement is a major red flag. Given the amount of draft talent we have brought into the club during his time, the current standard isn't acceptable and wouldn't be acceptable at any grade of amateur football let alone a professional team.

 

[scottywiper]

Is this what it felt like in the 80s

Shit no. Back then you felt like we could turn it around fairly quickly. And we were generally pretty competitive.

 

[Themanbun]

Its extroadinary.

The same collective of nuffies that pranced around society, beating their chests and shouting from the rooftopos over his appointment are the same group of collective nuffies that are baying for his blood, wanting him strung up from a tree.

Now where's that Ubernuff nuff that was circulating that petition!!

It's almost like his performance across 3+ years as a coach has disappointed people!

 

[speedy]

Forget the game planning and strategies.

I would have thought at the very least he would have a positive influence on fitness, training standards and recruiting. He should know what this should look like and have enough industry clout to make the changes to get these fundamentals right if they weren’t up to scratch.

Seems like he has had very little influence except for recruiting, where his influence has been diabolical.

 

[Karanicolas]

Shit no. Back then you felt like we could turn it around fairly quickly. And we were generally pretty competitive.

Yes, my recollection as well. A team of triers with some gold dust sprinkled amongst them. Also, played some finals, but were never seriously in the mix.

John Kennedy Snr was coach for a period, and I was hoping Clarkson would have a similar impact.

 

[scottywiper]

Yes, my recollection as well. A team of triers with some gold dust sprinkled amongst them. Also, played some finals, but were never seriously in the mix.

John Kennedy Snr was coach for a period, and I was hoping Clarkson would have a similar impact.

We desperately need someone like Kanga to save the culture of the club.
He was apparently lured to North by Ron Joseph going out of his way to organise special care for their son.

 

[Horace]

I think we’re at a stage where a prospective young coach would look at our list and no longer think “potential career killer” if they came to coach North.

Clarkson can’t seem to coach anymore and he certainly ain’t no master tactician. But the very least I can credit him with has been the ability to retain talent. Based mostly on the reputation he built a decade ago, but all good.. They’ve stuck around all the same.

The timing would be right for an ambitious young coach to look at this list, know it’s underachieving and have the fire in the belly to get more out of this club.

It’s what literally happened at Hawthorn with Mitchell. Look at them now. Ain’t hard to recognise the problem. It’s time.

For what it is worth, when we got Clarkson, I was hoping we would have got Mitchell instead.

Having said that, I can't help but wonder just how much the fallout from the racism saga at Hawthorn, continues to impact on Clarkson's ability to coach at the same level he once did.

 

[CharlieMortdecai]

Its extroadinary.

The same collective of nuffies that pranced around society, beating their chests and shouting from the rooftopos over his appointment are the same group of collective nuffies that are baying for his blood, wanting him strung up from a tree.

Now where's that Ubernuff nuff that was circulating that petition!!

Not that extraordinary, you seem to be conflating hope and optimism, with object reality

 

[ferball]

Is this what it felt like in the 80s

In the middle of the 80s we came back from 6 goals down in a sudden death final...

 

[backtothedraft]

Shit no. Back then you felt like we could turn it around fairly quickly. And we were generally pretty competitive.

Crazy that you lived through the 80's and are still regularly posting on BigFooty!

 

[Spud11]

For what it is worth, when we got Clarkson, I was hoping we would have got Mitchell instead.

Having said that, I can't help but wonder just how much the fallout from the racism saga at Hawthorn, continues to impact on Clarkson's ability to coach at the same level he once did.

It was terrible for him at the time, but I don’t think it can justify what we’re seeing from him now.

Unfortunately things were meandering along in a similar fashion in his final years at Hawthorn.. No scandal or anything to blame then, just that the game had seemingly moved passed him.

We were hoping for a second wind of cyclone proportions for Clarko to achieve success with us. Many probably feared deep down it wouldn’t eventuate.

 

[Only Forwards]

There is no way he stays beyond the bye this year if the season looks anything like the previous 2.

I do not see how there is a pathway for us to sack him this year regardless of outcome. That is because;

I’m not sure what the payout will be, but it will need to happen.

If performance is so bad it necessitates an early exit, any payout will be deducted from the soft cap.

Meaning we’d have no coach + no money to:

Barlow or whoever can then see the season out, strictly play the kids (Which will mean the end of Daniels, Logues, Pinks and maybe even Parker) and get the best available assistant from a high placed club at years end.

Attract the sort of coaching talent you’re talking about.

There is no simple course of action here that does not have down stream longer term impacts.

If we play how we have we’re a joke,
If we sack him before time we’ll be broke.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Shit no. Back then you felt like we could turn it around fairly quickly. And we were generally pretty competitive.

Before my time so I'll take your word for it. Old man said we were bad, but perhaps it wasn't for too long like you say.

 

[King Corey]

It's almost like his performance across 3+ years as a coach has disappointed people!

Oh enough with your logic and nuance.

Reminds me of all the Michael Jackson fans in the 80s.

Where are all those nuffies now?

 

[zoomba23]

Its extroadinary.

The same collective of nuffies that pranced around society, beating their chests and shouting from the rooftopos over his appointment are the same group of collective nuffies that are baying for his blood, wanting him strung up from a tree.

Now where's that Ubernuff nuff that was circulating that petition!!

That's because we run on what reality gives us. Under Clarko, reality has given us three seasons that, on field, have been barely distinguishable from the three seasons before he got here. Do I seriously need to explain the concept of cause and effect to what I presume is a grown man?

 

[zoomba23]

You and I agree on a lot but this is one thing I disagree with my friend.

Effort and attitude are the only thing at footy clubs that are contagious. And you'd be surprised with the right training how much someone's skill and athleticism can be improved.

Give me a shit campaigner who's a shit campaigner despite all his best efforts over a shit campaigner who's a shit campaigner because he doesn't care enough to try, any day of the week.

I know, man, but too far the other way and you end up with multiple Lazzaros and Mahonys and Drurys and Daniels running around and you get smashed anyway. Obviously there's a balance to be had.

I just understand the frustration around him, even though I think it's misguided. He's terrible with the ball, and I've given up hope of players improving their skills under the current regime. LDU still kicks it up and under (and can't use his left for handballs), Jy still barely makes contact with the ball on his kicks, Larkey still fumbles when he shouldn't, Zurhaar still has a slingshot kicking action that can cause miscues, Comben is a woeful kick, LMac is a worse kick than he was in his first year or two, Wardlaw is still a lottery when kicking it (haven't lost hope there yet), Goater is still a poor-average kick, Powell and Parker both rush disposals from stoppage.

Konstanty's spot is safe, but it sucks that he has to be so weak with the ball. Because he wins himself opportunities, and then squanders them. Maybe the footy fairy will come down one day and impart the correct training methods onto our coaches. I just.. I'm not holding my breath

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Its extroadinary.

The same collective of nuffies that pranced around society, beating their chests and shouting from the rooftopos over his appointment are the same group of collective nuffies that are baying for his blood, wanting him strung up from a tree.

Now where's that Ubernuff nuff that was circulating that petition!!

It’s almost as if, the evidence that has been presented across the last three years, has given rise to people changing their point of view through the lens of the results we’ve put up.

This isn’t American politics. You don’t pick red or blue and stick.

 

[Zondor]

It’s almost as if, the evidence that has been presented across the last three years, has given rise to people changing their point of view through the lens of the results we’ve put up.

This isn’t American politics. You don’t pick red or blue and stick.

But it’s the same collective nuffies.

 

[Caracas]

You and I agree on a lot but this is one thing I disagree with my friend.

Effort and attitude are the only thing at footy clubs that are contagious. And you'd be surprised with the right training how much someone's skill and athleticism can be improved.

Give me a shit campaigner who's a shit campaigner despite all his best efforts over a shit campaigner who's a shit campaigner because he doesn't care enough to try, any day of the week.

I agree with you, in principle. However, the sad truth is that, at the end of the day, we’ll get the same result.

 

[archereleven]

Is this what it felt like in the 80s

The 80s was ups and downs.
We could beat anyone on the day, with a couple of seasons where it looked we might pinch one.

We couldn't beat shit with a stick at the minute.

This is light years worse than the 80s. '84 was our worst season by a mile and id take that over any of the last 6 years.