Bye Time Assessments

[1970crow]

I’m thinking a review that starts with one or two word assessment and then some rationale/detail.

Ah Chee - disappointing- role player at Lions and spoken of by some like we were getting another Rankine. Injury has robbed us of finding out though, hopefully we’re over that.

Max - extremely disappointing - gone backwards after looking like being so much more. Don’t think his spot is in doubt, but wouldn’t think twice if he missed due to gastro.

McAndrew - a revelation - but signs of fatigue starting to show. Bye at a good time, but him less rucking last 2-3 weeks surely wouldn’t have killed Murray.

Berry - extremely solid - not going to say breakout like Rachele looked in the middle, but he’s been really good. Took him a while to start accumulating midfielder numbers, but he seems to be there now.

Milera - a standout - having an exceptional year. But I reckon him generating the number of disposals points to structural/strategy problems. I feel that he gets 5-8 too many each week and Laird about 20 too many.

Dawson - toughest of years - but he’s stood up unbelievably really. Just keeps going and going and getting the job done.

 

[WeeBlake]

Cook - has arrived. In our best handful so far this year, has a desire for the contest, high impact possession. Great kick, great decision maker

Thilthorpe - way off. Doesn’t look right.

Peatling - continues to disappoint. Can’t see him ever being the A grade mid we need. No weapons. Another we need to move past.

 

[Velvet George]

Nicks - defensive moron

 

[FR0GGY]

Cook - has arrived. In our best handful so far this year, has a desire for the contest, high impact possession. Great kick, great decision maker

Thilthorpe - way off. Doesn’t look right.

Peatling - continues to disappoint. Can’t see him ever being the A grade mid we need. No weapons. Another we need to move past.

On peatling I think he can be a great mid and we’ve seen it. Was it the bulldogs or freo game where he had an unbelievable half or qtr.
Needs to do more, but he can do it.

Worrell needs his wingman in Keane back. Poor year.

 

[Slim258]

Chayce Jones	Delist
Ben Keays	SANFL
Sam Berry	Great form this year, has added breakaway speed which is nice to see
Callum Ah Chee	When fit, will be great for us up forward
Sid Draper	Should be in for Keays once fit
Dan Curtin	Building Momentum - needs freedom in the midfield to flourish
Riley Thilthorpe	Disappointing start but will come good
Josh Rachele	Top 3 player for us this year
Nick Murray	Should be in for Borlase
Luke Pedlar	Unlucky, but think his body just isnt up to AFL
Charlie Edwards	Should be in
Jordan Dawson	Can't fault anything he has done this year
Taylor Walker	Old man, forward line hasn't completely fallen over like previous years when he hasn’t played which is nice to see
Jake Soligo	Building
Braydon Cook	Glad he's finally come on
Max Michalanney	Not in the best form but has looked better in recent weeks
Tyler Welsh	Delist
Zac Taylor	Has impressed me, something always happens when he gets the ball
Mitchell Hinge	Should be back soon, hopefully they finally f*** Laird off
Hugo Bond	Hopefully be back soon, hopefully they finally f*** Laird off
Oscar Ryan	Delist
Izak Rankine	Hope the calf isnt bad because we need him
Josh Worrell	Top 4 player for us this year
James Peatling	Been good in patches but can go missing
Mitch Marsh	Junior
Luke Nankervis	Looks good in patches and then tries to do too much in others,
Alex Neal-Bullen	Been a bit disappointing this year
Rory Laird	Sucks
Wayne Milera	Top 3 player for us this year
Billy Dowling	Delist
Darcy Fogarty	Building
Indy Cotton	Junior
Archie Ludowyke	Junior
James Borlase	SANFL Player at best
Finbar Maley	Think hes provides more than Turray, but needs time
Lachlan Sholl	Delist
Toby Murray	SANFL Player at best
Jordon Butts	Adding more dollars every week
Lachlan McAndrew	Very impressed
Reilly O'Brien	Delist
Isaac Cumming	Good in patches, but can go missign
Mark Keane	Need back ASAP

 

[maxlilly]

Keays - has fallen off a cliff
Constantly gets beaten one v one, cant take a mark to save himself
Lack of footy IQ being exposed

 

[Jarman3]

Thilthorpe clearly isn't right and hasn't been all year. That back problem is causing serious issues. He's not as mobile, not as aggressive, and appears to have no confidence. He's a liability in his current state. Better for him and the team to rest him until he's genuinely right. Bring back Tex after the bye or just go smaller up forward.

 

[Cromulant]

I’m thinking a review that starts with one or two word assessment and then some rationale/detail.

Ah Chee - disappointing- role player at Lions and spoken of by some like we were getting another Rankine. Injury has robbed us of finding out though, hopefully we’re over that.

Max - extremely disappointing - gone backwards after looking like being so much more. Don’t think his spot is in doubt, but wouldn’t think twice if he missed due to gastro.

McAndrew - a revelation - but signs of fatigue starting to show. Bye at a good time, but him less rucking last 2-3 weeks surely wouldn’t have killed Murray.

Berry - extremely solid - not going to say breakout like Rachele looked in the middle, but he’s been really good. Took him a while to start accumulating midfielder numbers, but he seems to be there now.

Milera - a standout - having an exceptional year. But I reckon him generating the number of disposals points to structural/strategy problems. I feel that he gets 5-8 too many each week and Laird about 20 too many.

Dawson - toughest of years - but he’s stood up unbelievably really. Just keeps going and going and getting the job done.

Very well said.

Max is concerning, is it a player who's development has stalled, is it coaching or is it a bit of both perhaps ?? Our backline currently is full of guys who cant kick.

 

[Coopers]

Thilthorpe clearly isn't right and hasn't been all year. That back problem is causing serious issues. He's not as mobile, not as aggressive, and appears to have no confidence. He's a liability in his current state. Better for him and the team to rest him until he's genuinely right. Bring back Tex after the bye or just go smaller up forward.

Given the dude is such a gun, we're nuts playing him as a shell of the player he should be, if it is further preventing him from getting better.

Does he need rest? If he does, then get him right for end of the year?

FFS

 

[Pugsley]

Butts = handbrake when needing to move the ball on quickly.

 

[Slim258]

Butts & Laird = handbrake when needing to move the ball on quickly.

Fixed that

 

[Pugsley]

Fixed that

Laird is never getting dropped. He is Maffew's pet from his Scotch days.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Given the dude is such a gun, we're nuts playing him as a shell of the player he should be, if it is further preventing him from getting better.

Does he need rest? If he does, then get him right for end of the year?

FFS

They said on the broadcast that we're putting out that its going to need to wait till the off season to fix. Wonder if that means surgery.

 

[kirky]

They said on the broadcast that we're putting out that its going to need to wait till the off season to fix. Wonder if that means surgery.

And ban him from playing any cricket during the off season - he has struggled from the start of the season and it is no coincidence.

 

[Pugsley]

And ban him from playing any cricket during the off season - he has struggled from the start of the season and it is no coincidence.

I think they all shouldn't be playing cricket. Duty of care FFS.

 

[Southerntakeover]

And ban him from playing any cricket during the off season - he has struggled from the start of the season and it is no coincidence.

A bunch of our best players suffered back / hamstring injuries. We really think they all did it conveniently away from the club?

 

[kirky]

A bunch of our best players suffered back / hamstring injuries. We really think they all did it conveniently away from the club?

Well most of them aren’t over 200cms tho are they?

 

[kirky]

I think they all shouldn't be playing cricket. Duty of care FFS.

Totally agree, you are getting paid shitloads of money.

Find some over recreational activity.

 

[Cromulant]

They said on the broadcast that we're putting out that its going to need to wait till the off season to fix. Wonder if that means surgery.

Back surgery for a bloke in his mid 20s is not good.

But if he needs it, do it now.

Season is essentially a write off anyway

 

[Pugsley]

Totally agree, you are getting paid shitloads of money.

Find some over recreational activity.

Yes. Monopoly seems safer because you aren't playing with family.

 

[Pugsley]

A bunch of our best players suffered back / hamstring injuries. We really think they all did it conveniently away from the club?

The point is the element of risk with injury. Of course nobody wants to get injured. You're a smart man I am sure you know the risk of injury.

 

[Crowtel]

Totally agree, you are getting paid shitloads of money.

Find some over recreational activity.

Yeah can't get injured playing fortnite on the couch like every other 20-25yr old

 

[Mutineer]

Chayce Jones	Delist
Ben Keays	SANFL
Sam Berry	Great form this year, has added breakaway speed which is nice to see
Callum Ah Chee	When fit, will be great for us up forward
Sid Draper	Should be in for Keays once fit
Dan Curtin	Building Momentum - needs freedom in the midfield to flourish
Riley Thilthorpe	Disappointing start but will come good
Josh Rachele	Top 3 player for us this year
Nick Murray	Should be in for Borlase
Luke Pedlar	Unlucky, but think his body just isnt up to AFL
Charlie Edwards	Should be in
Jordan Dawson	Can't fault anything he has done this year
Taylor Walker	Old man, forward line hasn't completely fallen over like previous years when he hasn’t played which is nice to see
Jake Soligo	Building
Braydon Cook	Glad he's finally come on
Max Michalanney	Not in the best form but has looked better in recent weeks
Tyler Welsh	Delist
Zac Taylor	Has impressed me, something always happens when he gets the ball
Mitchell Hinge	Should be back soon, hopefully they finally f*** Laird off
Hugo Bond	Hopefully be back soon, hopefully they finally f*** Laird off
Oscar Ryan	Delist
Izak Rankine	Hope the calf isnt bad because we need him
Josh Worrell	Top 4 player for us this year
James Peatling	Been good in patches but can go missing
Mitch Marsh	Junior
Luke Nankervis	Looks good in patches and then tries to do too much in others,
Alex Neal-Bullen	Been a bit disappointing this year
Rory Laird	Sucks
Wayne Milera	Top 3 player for us this year
Billy Dowling	Delist
Darcy Fogarty	Building
Indy Cotton	Junior
Archie Ludowyke	Junior
James Borlase	SANFL Player at best
Finbar Maley	Think hes provides more than Turray, but needs time
Lachlan Sholl	Delist
Toby Murray	SANFL Player at best
Jordon Butts	Adding more dollars every week
Lachlan McAndrew	Very impressed
Reilly O'Brien	Delist
Isaac Cumming	Good in patches, but can go missign
Mark Keane	Need back ASAP

Gets very expensive delisting contracted players regards salary cap.

 

[Jarman3]

Back surgery for a bloke in his mid 20s is not good.

But if he needs it, do it now.

Season is essentially a write off anyway

Whatever it needs, surgery or rest or rehab or whatever, just bite the bullet and get on with it. It's not doing him or the team any good playing him in his current state. He's giving us nothing while not improving his back and potentially making it worse.

If he was still having an impact on the game then I could maybe understand continuing to push through. But right now the only ones benefiting from this situation are our opposition.

 

[Cromulant]

Whatever it needs, surgery or rest or rehab or whatever, just bite the bullet and get on with it. It's not doing him or the team any good playing him in his current state. He's giving us nothing while not improving his back and potentially making it worse.

If he was still having an impact on the game then I could maybe understand continuing to push through. But right now the only ones benefiting from this situation are our opposition.

He did have an impact when he went on ball late, we took too long to make the call IMO. Whether thats because we are so rigidly sticking to our structures or whether we are trying to protect him, who knows.

If its the latter then he shouldnt be there, if its the former then its another nail in the Nicks coffin.