Cam Rayner

[royboys4eva]

To be fair to the Lions, that entire draft has a very 2003-y smell about it - Freo made out like bandits with Cerra and Brayshaw, everyone else got very very little.

I Don't know about that - Lions got Zac Bailey at pick 15. He goes alright!

 

[Nunez]

I Don't know about that - Lions got Zac Bailey at pick 15. He goes alright!

Starce too...

 

[Meteoric Rise]

danster168

Bayley Selfritsch and Charlie Spudgo not going great for guys you rate worth pick 4 and pick 18.

13 disposals, 1 goal, zero goal assists, 3 goal assist burns 0 clearances, 4 contested possessions, 5 effective disposals, 0 contested marks, 7 score involvements, 291 metres gained.

Just looks a regular quiet game….until you realise that is between the two of them.

Danster your two lads copped a shocking hiding tonight, a hell of a beating.

Harrison Petty

35

Harrison Petty

Age

26

Ht

197cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.5

2star

K

5.7

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.3

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

120.7

2star

No current season stats available

D

9.8

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.4

4star

MG

127.6

3star

kept Cameron goalless tonight and he must f*cking spew every time he looks at your re-rating of the 2017 draft and sees you have those two spuds above him.

Your pick 4 Fritsch plays exclusively deepest forward in the second top team in his prime and has dead set taken 6 contested marks for the season. . In 16 games. . Rhylee West

14

Rhylee West

Age

25

Ht

183cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.3

3star

K

5.7

2star

HB

6.7

4star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.5

3star

G

0.5

3star

D

12.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

6.0

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.0

3star

G

0.3

3star

D

13.0

4star

K

5.6

3star

HB

7.4

5star

M

2.2

3star

T

1.4

4star

G

0.6

3star

is legit 3 feet tall and takes more contested marks per game deep forward than your pick 4.

Let’s face it danster, you are a miserable judge of a footballer.

 

[danster168]

danster168

Bayley Selfritsch and Charlie Spudgo not going great for guys you rate worth pick 4 and pick 18.

13 disposals, 1 goal, zero goal assists, 3 goal assist burns 0 clearances, 4 contested possessions, 5 effective disposals, 0 contested marks, 7 score involvements, 291 metres gained.

Just looks a regular quiet game….until you realise that is between the two of them.

Danster your two lads copped a shocking hiding tonight, a hell of a beating.

Harrison Petty kept Cameron goalless tonight and he must f*cking spew every time he looks at your re-rating of the 2017 draft and sees you have those two spuds above him.

How long were you waiting on Fritsch to play a bad game. Lucky he has 2 years of credit in the bank. He could do a Rayner and have another quiet 3 years and still be ahead

 

[Meteoric Rise]

How long were you waiting on Fritsch to play a bad game. Lucky he has 2 years of credit in the bank. He could do a Rayner and have another quiet 3 years and still be ahead

How long? The campaigner has 8 disposals and 1 tackle per game in his last 6 games. If you took away the goals he is given just for being there he would have done absolutely nothing. He front and centred a pack tonight looking for a crumb. The problem was the pack consisted of one player, his opponent. . Bayley, how about f*cking contest for the ball you weak campaigner.

Pick 4

 

[danster168]

How long? The campaigner has 8 disposals and 1 tackle per game in his last 6 games. If you took away the goals he is given just for being there he would have done absolutely nothing. He front and centred a pack tonight looking for a crumb. The problem was the pack consisted of one player, his opponent. . Bayley, how about f*cking contest for the ball you weak campaigner.

Pick 4

oh, you're not gonna look at the season as a whole? hahahah laughable.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

oh, you're not gonna look at the season as a whole? hahahah laughable.

What, that the chief goal kicker and exclusively deepest forward in the second top team is 17th for average goals per game and 85th for average score involvements? That whole season you mean?

 

[danster168]

What, that the chief goal kicker and exclusively deepest forward in the second top team is 17th for average goals per game and 85th for average score involvements? That whole season you mean?

out of interest..how many of those 17 are key forwards? 15? Fritsch isn't a key forward mate. Way to go comparing 200cm, 100kg key forwards to Fritsch haha. mate, I've owned you at these before. But if you want to try, I can do it again.

It's funny how you tried to trivialise 6 in a granny. You don't recover from that mate.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

out of interest..how many of those 17 are key forwards? 15? Fritsch isn't a key forward mate. Way to go comparing 200cm, 100kg key forwards to Fritsch haha. mate, I've owned you at these before. But if you want to try, I can do it again.

It's funny how you tried to trivialise 6 in a granny. You don't recover from that mate.

Six goals with zero contested marks. Basically 6 uncontested goals. You are not taking a bloke at 4 because he can take uncontested chest marks 25m out and convert them.

It doesn’t matter about what size he is. He is he chief go to goal kicker in the second top team. That is the role he plays. If he isn’t as good at it as taller players then you wouldn’t be taking him with pick 4 would you? You would just take a taller player.

Pick 4. For 9 disposals 1 tackle per game and 1 contested mark every 3rd match.

 

[danster168]

Six goals with zero contested marks. Basically 6 uncontested goals. You are not taking a bloke at 4 because he can take uncontested chest marks 25m out and convert them.

It doesn’t matter about what size he is. He is he chief go to goal kicker in the second top team. That is the role he plays. If he isn’t as good at it as taller players then you wouldn’t be taking him with pick 4 would you? You would just take a taller player.

Pick 4. For 9 disposals 1 tackle per game and 1 contested mark every 3rd match.

hahaha. it's so easy that it hasn't been done in 20-odd years. makes sense! lol.

 

[danster168]

Aaron Naughton

33

Aaron Naughton

Age

26

Ht

196cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.7

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

4.9

5star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.8

4star

D

6.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

2.3

2star

M

2.5

3star

T

0.8

1star

G

0.5

4star

D

12.8

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.0

1star

round 2: 9 possessions, 1 goal.
Round 3: 8 possessions, 1 goal.

So Naughton isn't near the top of the 2017 draft because he can play bad games too? Interesting list you must have.

 

[danster168]

hahaha. it's so easy that it hasn't been done in 20-odd years. makes sense! lol.

p.s. you can't count. he doesn't average 1 contested mark per 3 games. it makes me question what other stats you've made up to suit your argument. haha.

comparing Fritsch, a hybrid 3rd tall to a 200cm key forward. hilarious! keep it coming

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Aaron Naughton round 2: 9 possessions, 1 goal.
Round 3: 8 possessions, 1 goal.

So Naughton isn't near the top of the 2017 draft because he can play bad games too? Interesting list you must have.

Feel free to compare Naughton’s whole season with Fritsch’s dan. And key forwards don’t have Z Guthrie on them too often.

Anyway, we can all see that pick 4 is a ludicrous rating to give to an over age player who in his prime has the kick it to me chest mark as his major weapon.

p.s. you can't count. he doesn't average 1 contested mark per 3 games. it makes me question what other stats you've made up to suit your argument. haha.

comparing Fritsch, a hybrid 3rd tall to a 200cm key forward. hilarious! keep it coming

It is indeed hilarious comparing Fritsch, an over age uncontested receiver who cannot take a contested mark or win big contests, to a key forward. And that shows how ridiculous it is you have him ahead of Allen, Balta, Taylor and McCartin for a start. You can’t take a position he is worth more than them and when they outperform him say oh yeah naturally, they are bigger. Let’s get fair dinkum here dan. You made a fool of yourself rating Fritsch at pick 4 and rather than just admitting it you are trying to deal with the problem by doubling down on it. But it won’t go away, and it won’t get any easier for the arch receiver from here either.

Like seriously, are you really coughing up pick 4 for a player who can’t take a contested mark, doesn’t create goals, can’t get 10 disposals a game and doesn’t tackle and yet only kicks about 2.3 goals per match in his prime, playing for the best team? If so….

 

[Meteoric Rise]

p.s. you can't count. he doesn't average 1 contested mark per 3 games. it makes me question what other stats you've made up to suit your argument. haha.

comparing Fritsch, a hybrid 3rd tall to a 200cm key forward. hilarious! keep it coming

If I cannot count Dan……then feel free to correct me and tell us exactly how many games it takes Fritsch to “accumulate” a contested mark on average this season? You might want to write in in very small print.

 

[danster168]

If I cannot count Dan……then feel free to correct me and tell us exactly how many games it takes Fritsch to “accumulate” a contested mark on average this season? You might want to write in in very small print.

I will after you address you Naughton oversight. so Naughton isn't in your top 5 in the 2017 draft?

 

[scott_the_man]

To be fair to the Lions, that entire draft has a very 2003-y smell about it - Freo made out like bandits with Cerra and Brayshaw, everyone else got very very little.

Lions got Zac Bailey and Brandon Starcevich in the same draft. Even if we exclude Rayner that's still a great draft, as the other 2 are already elite players in their positions.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

I will after you address you Naughton oversight. so Naughton isn't in your top 5 in the 2017 draft?

Lol, there is no Naughton oversight. Fritsch’s season could not hold a candle to Naughton’s. My saying your rating of Fritsch is delusional does not rely on Fritsch playing one or two bad games, and if your rebuttal rests on Naughton having 2 quiet games from 15 then that is next level delirium .

Anyway, now for your pick 18, Charlie Spudgo. . 4 disposals, 0 goals, 0 behinds, 0 goal assists, 0 contested possessions 2 turnovers.

That is like an all-time shyte game that is. 4 disposals and they had to be given to him. And he was magnanimous enough to turn half of those over to the opposition as well.

He did have about 7 forward 50 despairing chases though and had 14 inside 50’s. Well, he ran inside 50 14 times at least.

 

[danster168]

Lol, there is no Naughton oversight. Fritsch’s season could not hold a candle to Naughton’s. My saying your rating of Fritsch is delusional does not rely on Fritsch playing one or two bad games, and if your rebuttal rests on Naughton having 2 quiet games from 15 then that is next level delirium .

Anyway, now for your pick 18, Charlie Spudgo. . 4 disposals, 0 goals, 0 behinds, 0 goal assists, 0 contested possessions 2 turnovers.

That is like an all-time shyte game that is. 4 disposals and they had to be given to him. And he was magnanimous enough to turn half of those over to the opposition as well.

He did have about 7 forward 50 despairing chases though and had 14 inside 50’s. Well, he ran inside 50 14 times at least.

but I'm not comparing Fritsch to Naughton. you did when you equated a bad game to meaning they're a bad player. I can only assume so much considering you were quieter than a church mouse when he was kicking 3 goals every week and in the top 10 for the goal kicking and the leading small fwd in the comp. lol. So if a bad game = bad draft rating then it means that Naughton is down your list too

I stand by both of my ratings. I never said I rated spargo. I just rate him more than rayner. 4 touches is horrific, but 4 touches from a forward pocket in a bad loss is not as bad as 9 touches playing midfield in a 40 point win.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

but I'm not comparing Fritsch to Naughton. you did when you equated a bad game to meaning they're a bad player. I can only assume so much considering you were quieter than a church mouse when he was kicking 3 goals every week and in the top 10 for the goal kicking and the leading small fwd in the comp. lol. So if a bad game = bad draft rating then it means that Naughton is down your list too

I stand by both of my ratings. I never said I rated spargo. I just rate him more than rayner. 4 touches is horrific, but 4 touches from a forward pocket in a bad loss is not as bad as 9 touches playing midfield in a 40 point win.

I will not even attempt to address that utter nonsense in your first paragraph. I will just note Fritsch averages little over 2 goals per game this season, and given he does absolutely nothing else of value, that isn’t great.

Re Spargo, might I remind you, you rated him above not just Rayner but Petty, Daniels, Higgins, Richards, Switkowski, Ballard, T De Koning, Hunter Clark amongst others.

I bet you’d like to have your time again with that fiasco of a draft order you hallucinated.

 

[iameviljez]

Lions got Zac Bailey and Brandon Starcevich in the same draft. Even if we exclude Rayner that's still a great draft, as the other 2 are already elite players in their positions.

True, but if you get the number one pick, you rightly expect an excellent footballer.

 

[danster168]

I will not even attempt to address that utter nonsense in your first paragraph. I will just note Fritsch averages little over 2 goals per game this season, and given he does absolutely nothing else of value, that isn’t great.

Re Spargo, might I remind you, you rated him above not just Rayner but Petty, Daniels, Higgins, Richards, Switkowski, Ballard, T De Koning, Hunter Clark amongst others.

I bet you’d like to have your time again with that fiasco of a draft order you hallucinated.

2 goals a game is actually pretty decent mate. in fact its the 2nd or 3rd heighest of a non key forward.

 

[iameviljez]

2 goals a game is actually pretty decent mate. in fact its the 2nd or 3rd heighest of a non key forward.

7th in the league last year for goals kicked average. Bloody good player.

 

[danster168]

7th in the league last year for goals kicked average. Bloody good player.

lol yeah. Meteoric just has this strange agenda.

 

[T2B_]

I have no skin in this game, I'm just here for the danster and Meteoric showdown.

 

[scott_the_man]

2 goals a game is actually pretty decent mate. in fact its the 2nd or 3rd heighest of a non key forward.

The point he was making is he does nothing else. 8 disposals and 1 tackle a game is pretty piss poor. For reference, Rayner (who everyone is claiming is shit) averages about double both of those stats. I'm not saying he's a better player, just that your infatuation with Fritsch is a little over the top.