Cam Rayner

[Nunez]

Do you believe he was slightly better or worse than those 3?

It depends on his role and how well he adhered to it. This is not the Brownlow.

 

[Mr Meow]

It depends on his role and how well he adhered to it. This is not the Brownlow.

Or using more commonsense, having which player miss the entire season (based on 2023 output) would've affected Brisbane's ladder position the most?

Andrews
Neale
Dunkley
Daniher
McLuggage
Cameron

Bailey
Big O
Ashcroft
Starcevich
Coleman
Rayner

I reckon he'd slot in around 10-12.

 

[augie]

It depends on his role and how well he adhered to it. This is not the Brownlow.

So you're saying you can't judge how he played until you know what his role is? I assume then that you never comment on any player's performance given you don't know their role. Also assume you thought Billy Frampton was good in the GF because we were told what his role was.

 

[Nunez]

So you're saying you can't judge how he played until you know what his role is? I assume then that you never comment on any player's performance given you don't know their role. Also assume you thought Billy Frampton was good in the GF because we were told what his role was.

We are talking in context of the club B&F and their judging metrics - not in general.

If we're talking purely from a 'best on field' approach, he wouldn't be in my top ten - more around the 11-13 mark.

My judgement is not based off the B&F metrics though, which is what we are talking about.

 

[augie]

We are talking in context of the club B&F and their judging metrics - not in general.

If we're talking purely from a 'best on field' approach, he wouldn't be in my top ten - more around the 11-13 mark.

My judgement is not based off the B&F metrics though, which is what we are talking about.

Appears we are talking about different things. I asked about a personal opinion. You answered in the context of the B&F. All good.

 

[Nunez]

Appears we are talking about different things. I asked about a personal opinion. You answered in the context of the B&F. All good.

My apologies. I agree that he isn't in our top ten based off best performers of the year based off the eye test. Big pre season ahead of Cam.

 

[Happy_Neale]

Date of the above statemement: September, 2022

He ended up with 14.2 possessions and 0.9 goals per game. The question is, how successfully can I predict his average-ness in 2024? Should I go to 1 or 2 decimal places this year?

Here it is: I believe he will average 15.17 possessions and 1.2 goals per game. What a break out

These numbers are actually better than the 'excellent' final Spargo had against Carlton

 

[Ted Parker]

Has anyone found Rayner yet? He's been missing since the qualifying final, someone must have seen him.

 

[danster168]

TrueFooty ranks the Rayner draft. Nailed it. He must have copied my list

Meteoric Rise

 

[Meteoric Rise]

TrueFooty ranks the Rayner draft. Nailed it. He must have copied my list

Meteoric Rise

I looked for Charlie Spargo in his top 20 - unsighted Dan.

This bloke is a self-confessed Eagles fan who has 3 Eagles players in his top 12 picks. Two of them were mature agers. Draft was 6 years ago. Checks Eagles current ladder position. LOL.

Mihocek at 11. Mature age recruit average player rating under 8. Disposals 10.7, 4.8 contested, 1.3 contested marks, 2.1 goals + goal assists. LOL.

Balta below Mihocek, he has wtf'd it right up there. Balta is dead set 7 years younger, averages more disposals, more contested, more contested marks, higher player ratings, more coaches votes.

Rayner just finished 5th in the b & f for a Grand Finalist, not in top 20.

Baker a double flag player, has finished 2nd and 4th in the B & F not in top 20.

Ballard above Balta who has clearly outperformed him.

It is all subjective but I wouldn't be hitching your wagon to this clown Dan.

 

[danster168]

I looked for Charlie Spargo in his top 20 - unsighted Dan.

This bloke is a self-confessed Eagles fan who has 3 Eagles players in his top 12 picks. Two of them were mature agers. Draft was 6 years ago. Checks Eagles current ladder position. LOL.

Mihocek at 11. Mature age recruit average player rating under 8. Disposals 10.7, 4.8 contested, 1.3 contested marks, 2.1 goals + goal assists. LOL.

Balta below Mihocek, he has wtf'd it right up there. Balta is dead set 7 years younger, averages more disposals, more contested, more contested marks, higher player ratings, more coaches votes.

Rayner just finished 5th in the b & f for a Grand Finalist, not in top 20.

Baker a double flag player, has finished 2nd and 4th in the B & F not in top 20.

Ballard above Balta who has clearly outperformed him.

It is all subjective but I wouldn't be hitching your wagon to this clown Dan.

haha, fancy checking the ladder and using that as a metric for individual players. All of the players he listed, I had above Rayner.

It doesn't matter what order, they're all ahead of Rayner. just goes to show that I'm not the only one who doesn't rate Rayner. Pick 30 in his draft.

How good were the days when you had Rayner above Fritsch Let alone Petty. Another guy you had Rayner above.Let me know when another team offers Rayner 800k a season on a big contract and 2 first rounders at the trade table.

Also, I had Higgins above Rayner. Also confirmed

Let me know when you find a video with someone ranking Rayner as pick 5

 

[adammania9]

I looked for Charlie Spargo in his top 20 - unsighted Dan.

This bloke is a self-confessed Eagles fan who has 3 Eagles players in his top 12 picks. Two of them were mature agers. Draft was 6 years ago. Checks Eagles current ladder position. LOL.

Mihocek at 11. Mature age recruit average player rating under 8. Disposals 10.7, 4.8 contested, 1.3 contested marks, 2.1 goals + goal assists. LOL.

Balta below Mihocek, he has wtf'd it right up there. Balta is dead set 7 years younger, averages more disposals, more contested, more contested marks, higher player ratings, more coaches votes.

Rayner just finished 5th in the b & f for a Grand Finalist, not in top 20.

Baker a double flag player, has finished 2nd and 4th in the B & F not in top 20.

Ballard above Balta who has clearly outperformed him.

It is all subjective but I wouldn't be hitching your wagon to this clown Dan.

Literally nobody is taking Balta over Mihocek

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Literally nobody is taking Balta over Mihocek

I think what you mean is you would be stupid enough to take Mihocek over Balta.

 

[adammania9]

I think what you mean is you would be stupid enough to take Mihocek over Balta.

No one wants turnover king Balta no matter how tall and athletic he is. Only 5 players have kicked more goals than Mihocek since his debut.

 

[danster168]

No one wants turnover king Balta no matter how tall and athletic he is. Only 5 players have kicked more goals than Mihocek since his debut.

Mihocek is 30. Balta 24. Hard to compare. Many teams would prefer Balta though. Mihocek is a red hot goer for a premiership team with no decent big forwards. He should be kicking goals.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

No one wants turnover king Balta no matter how tall and athletic he is. Only 5 players have kicked more goals than Mihocek since his debut.

Balta might have his deficiencies. But one of them isn't being a low ceiling, cut price, salary cap saving key position player like Mihocek.

Richmond alone has 2 players who have kicked more goals than Mihocek since his debut. So does Geelong. As has Charlie Cameron. As has Luke Breust. As has Jack Darling, Taylor Walker, Taylor swift, Fred Swift, Fred Nile and just about every other campaigner on the planet.

****ing deluded Collingwood supporters, total embarrassment.

 

[adammania9]

Balta might have his deficiencies. But one of them isn't being a low ceiling, cut price, salary cap saving key position player like Mihocek.

Richmond alone has 2 players who have kicked more goals than Mihocek since his debut. So does Geelong. As has Charlie Cameron. As has Luke Breust. As has Jack Darling, Taylor Walker, Taylor swift, Fred Swift, Fred Nile and just about every other campaigner on the planet.

******* deluded Collingwood supporters, total embarrassment.

Clutching at straws big time here. Seem upset your recruiters couldn't identify him as a star talent. Star key forward in the best side in the league vs. bog ordinary key position defender with below average skills in a bottom 6 side.

Second paragraph is just incorrect. Embarrassing for you.

 

[danster168]

Clutching at straws big time here. Seem upset your recruiters couldn't identify him as a star talent. Star key forward in the best side in the league vs. bog ordinary key position defender with below average skills in a bottom 6 side.

Second paragraph is just incorrect. Embarrassing for you.

how can you call a guy a star who hasn't been an AA or remotely close to even making a squad?

 

[Meteoric Rise]

how can you call a guy a star who hasn't been an AA or remotely close to even making a squad?

He means a Collingwood star. Different thing Dan.

And don't you know only 5 players have kicked more goals than Mihocek since his debut, except I found 8 off the top of my head without even trying.

 

[adammania9]

He means a Collingwood star. Different thing Dan.

And don't you know only 5 players have kicked more goals than Mihocek since his debut, except I found 8 off the top of my head without even trying.

Might wanna retry year 3 mathematics then, chief

 

[adammania9]

how can you call a guy a star who hasn't been an AA or remotely close to even making a squad?

Would have been within touch of this year's squad. Comically underrated outside of Collingwood, and would be a key player in every side in the comp

 

[danster168]

Would have been within touch of this year's squad. Comically underrated outside of Collingwood, and would be a key player in every side in the comp

within touch? please. he was nowhere near it. you're not a star when you're 30 and never made an AA squad.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Might wanna retry year 3 mathematics then, chief

Let's do half the work each then shall we?

You say how many majors Mihocek has roosted since his debut, and name the 5 players who have kicked more than him. Then I will do the rest...

 

[adammania9]

Let's do half the work each then shall we?

You say how many majors Mihocek has roosted since his debut, and name the 5 players who have kicked more than him. Then I will do the rest...

Tom Hawkins 327
Jeremy Cameron 280
Charlie Cameron 256
Taylor Walker 238
Jack Riewoldt 226
BRODY MIHOCEK 212
The rest

 

[adammania9]

within touch? please. he was nowhere near it. you're not a star when you're 30 and never made an AA squad.

It's a team sport, mate. Individual accolades are just one element