Cam Rayner

[CarterS]

lol, is that what we've come to? celebrating 19 touches and 0 goal games? Talk about setting the bar low.

Best on? not even in the top 10 on the ground.

Just had a look through the AFL app, he had the most marks of anyone on the ground and 7 score involvements, in a low scoring game, a good game by anyones measure. He's not getting brownlow votes but was our 4th or 5th best.

 

[Nunez]

Just had a look through the AFL app, he had the most marks of anyone on the ground and 7 score involvements, in a low scoring game, a good game by anyones measure. He's not getting brownlow votes but was our 4th or 5th best.

I think he and Berry both walk away with votes tbh

 

[KissKiss]

I think he and Berry both walk away with votes tbh

I reckon Berry and Jackson would get votes before Rayner. It was a good one off game, needs to do this more often. Coming in to tag danster is a bit much

 

[Meteoric Rise]

AFL player ratings had Rayner 34th best on the ground. I didn't watch the game, so no position to judge. Some of the things Rayner does, crashing packs without taking possession etc could not be properly recognised by the CD ratings system, but it was Rayner's 4th lowest rated game of 2023. He had just 3 contested possessions and 1 goal assist, and his 7 score involvements must have come mainly from being involved in uncontested chains?

I am a big Rayner fan as people will know, but statistically at least, he has actually been playing better in other matches and in this match looks to have benefitted more from the good work of his team-mates. I would be mildly surprised to see him in the Caches votes. Against that, he has likely done his job according to how the game played out and what was required of him by his team.

 

[Nunez]

AFL player ratings had Rayner 34th best on the ground. I didn't watch the game, so no position to judge. Some of the things Rayner does, crashing packs without taking possession etc could not be properly recognised by the CD ratings system, but it was Rayner's 4th lowest rated game of 2023. He had just 3 contested possessions and 1 goal assist, and his 7 score involvements must have come mainly from being involved in uncontested chains?

I am a big Rayner fan as people will know, but statistically at least, he has actually been playing better in other matches and in this match looks to have benefitted more from the good work of his team-mates. I would be mildly surprised to see him in the Caches votes. Against that, he has likely done his job according to how the game played out and what was required of him by his team.

The fact he had a poor game CD-wise goes to show how poor that system is. He was fantastic and very impactful. Guaranteed to be in the coaches votes and think he may snag the 1 Brownlow vote. I think Berry and Jackson will snag the others.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

The fact he had a poor game CD-wise goes to show how poor that system is. He was fantastic and very impactful. Guaranteed to be in the coaches votes and think he may snag the 1 Brownlow vote. I think Berry and Jackson will snag the others.

Was most of his impact in chains of possession where he was just another link in the chain, or did he do something eye-catching with or without the ball?

 

[Nunez]

Was most of his impact in chains of possession where he was just another link in the chain, or did he do something eye-catching with or without the ball?

He started a lot of inside 50 chains and presented really well, leading the match for marks. Was the difference in a game where the pressure was very high and entries came at a premium.

 

[KissKiss]

Thats nuts by CD and no relation to the reality of that game. No matter what they claim he had a big influence especially in a game where our starting mids got a beating. Rayner was definitely in the bests

 

[Milux]

Cam wasn't top 10 on the field but he was far from the 34th best. That's ridiculous.

 

[Elixuh]

Another great game by Cam Rayner! Love to see it!

 

[CarterS]

AFL player ratings had Rayner 34th best on the ground. I didn't watch the game, so no position to judge. Some of the things Rayner does, crashing packs without taking possession etc could not be properly recognised by the CD ratings system, but it was Rayner's 4th lowest rated game of 2023. He had just 3 contested possessions and 1 goal assist, and his 7 score involvements must have come mainly from being involved in uncontested chains?

I am a big Rayner fan as people will know, but statistically at least, he has actually been playing better in other matches and in this match looks to have benefitted more from the good work of his team-mates. I would be mildly surprised to see him in the Caches votes. Against that, he has likely done his job according to how the game played out and what was required of him by his team.

Around 4th best for us on fantasy points. Amazing difference

 

[danster168]

Say you didn't watch without saying you didn't watch.

Even your own fans have said he wasn't best on ground or anywhere near it.

Like I've said before, if he kicks 5 or 6 in a final then he can make up some lost ground but he's more chance of having 5 touches than kicking 5.

 

[Elixuh]

Even your own fans have said he wasn't best on ground or anywhere near it.

Danny boy, would you trade Brodie Grundy for rayner? Or spargo for Rayner?

 

[danster168]

Danny boy, would you trade Brodie Grundy for rayner? Or spargo for Rayner?

Well I hate Brodie Grundy, so I'd be willing to offload him for just about anyone, including Rayner. Spargo for Rayner I probably would do but I wouldn't be excited about it. I'd put him above Spargo but behind Neal-Bullen. Closer to a Melksham type. But Melksham is much more dangerous around goals, at least this season.

 

[Elixuh]

Well I hate Brodie Grundy, so I'd be willing to offload him for just about anyone, including Rayner. Spargo for Rayner I probably would do but I wouldn't be excited about it. I'd put him above Spargo but behind Neal-Bullen. Closer to a Melksham type. But Melksham is much more dangerous around goals.

I’m just happy we are making progress.

Cam rayner > spargo confirmed 7.8.23

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Around 4th best for us on fantasy points. Amazing difference

I think this is the reverse of how it normally works for Rayner. He normally gets fewer possessions but they are higher tariff balls, like contest wins. So he doesn't score so well in fantasy footy land but is better recognised by CD ratings points. In this match he got a lot more uncontested footy, and that, and his lack of goals seems to have limited his ratings points.

 

[HBFlanker]

Essendon threw the kitchen sink at Rayner a couple of years ago. They were under the impression it was pretty close, and they would have paid overs signficantly.

With the fact that Brisbane will have 2 x ashcrofts and Fletcher coming through, as well as others, he will get squeezed out sooner or later.

 

[danster168]

Essendon threw the kitchen sink at Rayner a couple of years ago. They were under the impression it was pretty close, and they would have paid overs signficantly.

With the fact that Brisbane will have 2 x ashcrofts and Fletcher coming through, as well as others, he will get squeezed out sooner or later.

what do you think Rayner is worth now? An early 2nd? Maybe, a late first in a compromised draft? Give it 1-2 more seasons and it'll be a late 2nd.

 

[HBFlanker]

what do you think Rayner is worth now? An early 2nd? Maybe, a late first in a compromised draft? Give it 1-2 more seasons and it'll be a late 2nd.

Wouldnt get a first round pick for him now.

25 to 30 i would imagine.

 

[CarterS]

Wouldnt get a first round pick for him now.

25 to 30 i would imagine.

Question is irrelevant as he is signed long term, doesn't want to go and we don't want to trade him.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

If Rayner gets a brownlow vote for that game I'll question what planet the umpires were on.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

The fact he had a poor game CD-wise goes to show how poor that system is. He was fantastic and very impactful. Guaranteed to be in the coaches votes and think he may snag the 1 Brownlow vote. I think Berry and Jackson will snag the others.

Coaches didn't have Rayner in their best 7 players in the match.

 

[Big_Birdy]

If Rayner gets a brownlow vote for that game I'll question what planet the umpires were on.

He won’t get a vote. In fact I’d imagine all 6 go to Freo players.

But he played well. And noticeably so.

 

[Sherrinator]

Rayner should be 3rd tall forward. He should be played as such and used to his strengths consistently.

 

[Nunez]

Coaches didn't have Rayner in their best 7 players in the match.

Interesting.