Can Dustin Martin be the GOAT?

Discussion in 'AFL - The Australian Football League' started by adammania9, Sep 30, 2017.

Put it out there
  1. adammania9

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    That's greatest of all time by the way.

    Just a fact check, Dustin Martin is 26 years old. Gary Ablett Jr who is often put in the GOAT discussions at 26 had:
    - 2 premierships (Dusty has one) I'm not a fan of flags, as it's a team award
    - 1 Brownlow medal (Dusty has one)
    - 112 Brownlow votes (Dusty has 134)
    - 3x MVP awards (Dusty has one)
    - 4x All-Australians (Dusty has two)
    - 2x Best and fairests (Dusty should win his 2nd)
    - 2x B&F's in premiership years (Dusty should have one coming up)

    So at 26 years old, Dusty is a bit behind GAJ at the same age, but obviously as we've seen, is virtually unstoppable and I think he might have a case should his career span maybe 8 more years? Most if not all would need to be elite. I'd go as far as to say Dusty's current ability exceeds Ablett Jr's best. I'm young but I haven't seen a player other than Carey's highlight reels be such a God-like figure on the field who could single-handedly carry his team over the line. Martin also looks destined to be a one-club player which for obvious reasons, is always looked up more to than multi-club players by AFL fans.

    Dusty just completed the first hat-trick ever - Brownlow/Premiership/Norm Smith in the one season. Should he continue at a similar level which I see no reason why he can not, Martin by career's end could be one of the greatest ever. A second premiership would be huge to his credentials.

    What do y'all think?
     

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    Ablett has 2 Brownlows and could have had 3 premierships, Martin has a long way to go.
     
  3. Power Raid

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    nope but who cares

    He's a legend anyway
     
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    Seems more likeable than Dangerfield so can see the community rallying around him as the number 1 player in the game.
     
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    So to be the best you have to have the community rallying behind you? Good one. :D

    As for being likable, I don't get it.
     
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    He has so much more potential than Danger for the goat title, thats for sure! In my opinion Ablett Jnr at his best is still pretty far ahead of Dusty and you cant really compare them both at 26 since Ablett was a forward in his first 5 years.
     
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    Corrected
     
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    Thanks.
     
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    No he won't be the GOAT,. but he can certainly be on that next tier, if he isn't already.
     
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    No, he's not even the best player in the competition.
     
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    If he has a couple more seasons like he has had this year he could give the title a shake.
     
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    I'd say what I really think, but he'd send his mates around for a chat.

    So I'll just say lol, not ******* close.
     
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    This is the first year Dusty has put together consistent 4th quarter performances. Great player obviously but to be considered the GOAT he needs to play at that level for years so come.

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    Roflcopter. Dusty's running, kicking, vision, and evasion are elite. He's the Michael Jordan of AFL.

    In fact dusty running with the football and taking a few bounces, and fending off a tackle or two, is becoming an iconic scene in the history of our game.
     
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    Watched him play today and most over hyped played ever

    Not fit to polish Ablett shoes
     
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    Roflcopter?
    I'm not denying he's a superstar I just think Danger has him covered currently.
    What does him having a "iconic scene" have to do with his standing as the greatest of all time?
     
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    I don't think Dusty has a shot at being the GOAT, but he could realistically become the best footballer of his era; if he continues at the current level for the next 5 years or so.

    And with due respect to the opening poster, Gary Ablett Jnr isn't even the best player in his family, let alone the GOAT.
     
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    Roflcopter again. Are you dumb? I'm saying that dusty running with the footy and taking a bounce or fending off tacklers is becoming an iconic image in our game. This is the type of footage that will be played in 50 years from now when commentators are talking about the greatest players in the history of the sport. Kind of like old black and white footage of Don Bradman driving the ball through the covers with such grace and elegance.
     
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    Ok
     
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    Look at how far Fyfe has fallen in just a couple of years.

    He's got the potential of course but this is really a premature discussion.
     
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    Go watch a few of the games GAJ played against Geelong and Collingwood a few years back and you will see how good his best really was. A one man army willing a group of kids over the line, was unstoppable in 2014 up to his injury and given where the Gold Coast were placed at that time may even have won another Charlie.

    Dustin is great and will surely get better but Gazza is still the best I have ever seen....which has only been since 1997 so apologies to all the greats before that and deeply envious of all those who got to see the greats like Matthews, Hudson, Lockett in full flight etc
     
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    Premierships shouldn't be used as a measurement in these discussions. Plenty of ordinary players have premierships to their names, as well as plenty of great players not having any.

    But Dusty is well on his way.
     
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    Nah, but he's the best player to watch ATM and will go down as a great. Don't think anyone will get to GAJ's level though.
     
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    Rubbish.
     
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