Can Dustin Martin be the GOAT?

Discussion in 'AFL - The Australian Football League' started by adammania9, Sep 30, 2017.

Put it out there
  1. woota

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    This. I get the feeling that anyone calling Dusty the goat is too young to have watched Wayne Carey in his prime. Most dominant player ever hands down.
     
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  2. JackOutback

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    I get the feeling anyone calling Carey the goat is too young to have watched Leigh Matthews in his prime ;)
     
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    From what I've heard I would have to agree.

    From what I actually saw Carey was hands down the best - he was the best player in the comp at 21, playing the toughest position on the field, and was so consistent at turning it on almost every game and the bigger the moment the bigger he was.
     
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    Alex Jesaulenko was way better to watch than Matthews...But G Ablett Snr was above both.
     
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    He's the GOAT in my heart :hearts:
     
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  6. adammania9

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    Seems a few warriors can't differentiate 'if' and 'can'. I don't think he'll be the best of all time, but he's a machine whose durability suggests he will play well into his early to mid thirties. Should he continue at this level for several more years, there's no reason he at minimum can't be discussed as one of the greatest of the modern era, the most advanced era of football.

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    Why does this stuff come up so often in the modern day? He's not the best player of the past 5 years, he's light years from Gary Ablett jr at his best and Danger is still way ahead as a footballer and likeability.
    Martin is a good strong player, who has had two very good seasons in a row. Let's not get carried away like the media who are midfield centric. I'm doubtful he makes the top 10 since 2000.
    In no order after Ablett jr
    Ablett jr

    Judd
    Danger
    Black
    Voss
    Harvey
    Hird
    Cousins
    Swan
    Hayes
    Mitchell
    Pendlebury
    Cotchin
    Goodes

    You could pick these names out of a barrel in any order you want before i put Martin in for a spin.
     
  8. IAMJUNGLEMUFFIN

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    He's not even the best player in the competition with Fyfe up and running.

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    He was know for strong starts and then fading out of games, I thought this year was the first year he put together complete games for the whole season . Kids a gun I am not knocking him at all.

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    Premierships won has almost zero relevance. Not Nick Reiwoldt or Matt Pavlich's fault they played for teams that never won shit.
     

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    Cotchin and Danger but no Fyfe?

    No, thanks.
     
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    Maybe, but first he has to survive the off-season celebrations without getting himself into trouble!
     
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    Clearly not the GOAT but had an amazing season and an amazing finals series. Is a very good player currently at the peak of his powers. Won the brownlow and norm smith in the same year which is a great effort too.

    When talking of GOAT Barry Cable deserves a mention. Won 3 consecutive Simpson Medals (equivalent of a norm smith) in the WAFL GFs from 1966-1986 and won the Sandover (equivalent of Brownlow) in 1964, 1968 (same year as Simpson) and 1973. Was a star in the WAFL, VFL and State games. Well before my time but old timers say he was amazing. Have a look at his list of honours, stacks up amazingly well. No wonder Lethal Leigh knocked him out a few times.

    Stephen Michael and Polly Farmer are the 2 other WA footballers that deserve to be mentioned as GOATs conversation. Again before my time but apparently amazing footballers.
     
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    And my GOAT that i saw is Carey. Just his influence on a game was amazing. Note I was born in 1982 so prior to that i only go on reports.


    Never saw mathews so cant comment, but his number of goals in phenomenal for a midfielder/small forward and that he was so tough and fearless. So happy to defer to older and wiser minds who say he was the best.
     
  16. Blue and Silver

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    If he wants to be GOAT he should have started his run a little earlier.

    Got to play for a long time if he wants to get those big-time props now.
     
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    Thats how you win mark of the year;)
     
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    No.

    Ablett, Franklin, Dangerfield all ahead of him in that discussion for current players. Argument could be made for Mitchell or Pendlebury too.
     
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    Not really,
     
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    Dusty is the highest paid player in the AFL. And is now the best.
     
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    Ablett Snr is the GOAT.

    Answer: an emphatic no.
     
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    i think its hilarious u kids talking shit about Martin. u wouldnt say this shit to him at Revs, hes jacked. not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic
     
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    he cant even use chopsticks properly
     
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    I think the premise of this thread is wrong because GAJ is a fair way behind the actual GOAT and is even behind his Dad.

    That said, Dusty is a pretty good player. Definitely worth $900k a year.
     
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    No, that's just because Matthews is a dirty thug that should've been jailed after the Bruns incident.