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He's been the best intercepting and rebounding defender for a while. As in a package of both. btw.
Can Hawthorn succeed while ignoring the elite end of the draft? - Part 2
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Can’t be the best at anything while you’re sitting on the sidelines, and players never come back and resume their usual and expected formline following significant injuries.
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Mustn't of watched Impey after his got fit this year then..
Docherty was great but 2 ACL's in a row are going to take away your edge and they have for him. Still a pretty decent player.
Docherty is not however that great in the air and certainly was not on the same level as Siciliy in that area even pre injury.
Yes - no one knows how Sicily will return but that's true of every player who has a serious injury.
Yeah, not sure why you are talking about Polec in this thread. Do you also post as THEGUN?
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Impey had his serious LTI in 2019 and came back in 2020.
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The thread isn’t about Docherty either, but here we are.
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He was 186cm at age 18. He is significantly taller. He and Gunston are similar heights.
Clubs dont update player stats from their draft year.
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Docherty was exceptional in the air at his peak. Not exactly like-for-like, Sicily is slightly better in a pack situation, but Docherty’s bread and butter was intercepting and repelling opposition attacks. His agility prior to his ACL was exceptional.
And how many players, especially A-graders, who have had serious injuries return to their pre-injury standard? It just doesn’t happen. Don’t have to stretch too much to acknowledge Sicily isn’t going to be the same player when he gets back playing AFL.
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Who was the last player traded directly off a serious injury? O'Meara? I don't count Patton who was traded for peanuts.
I would be surprised to see a club trade for Sicily full stop let alone for a first round pick. If he comes back and is the same player sure.
I would be surprised to see a club trade for Sicily full stop let alone for a first round pick. If he comes back and is the same player sure.
From all reports, a massive team player. Would rather the kind of passion he showed on the weekend game than the acceptance of mediocrity that has gone on at Carlton for over 2 decades now. Maybe if Carlton players were a bit more passionate about on field performance like Wingard, Carlton might be sitting inside the 8?
Daniher was pretty close to this. Nearly went to Sydney after not playing since round 9 that season, and a total of 4 games for the year. Went to Brisbane after playing 4, 4 and 7 games in the previous 3 seasons. Key forward vs rebounding defender makes a big difference though.
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Daniher's 'nearly' trade value was reportedly two first round picks which is nuts for an injured guy a year out from free agency. Brisbane signed him as a free agent and gave up nothing.
Much easier to find a mid sized defender than a key forward capable of kicking 60 in a year though. We have Elliot Yeo who is IMO our best mid and an inside bull and he's awesome when he plays at half back. Brad Sheppard didn't really work out as a mid/wingman and is now an AA half back. Sicily is the sort of guy who if we had mid season trades like the NBA would be being looked at by clubs up until the trade deadline in 2022 to see how he is progressing after missing a year. Not worth the gamble of an early pick and not going to be given away for pick 30.
youll find the sentiment over and over in the thread ‘at least we have Clarko’ not so much now
‘they said he would hate Kokoda. So much so he wore the green hat form there all the following pre season
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He came back for a few games but went out not long after with rib injuries after playing as a forward aswell.
Went down back and has gotten back to his best and better + he relies more on swift movement than Sicily does and he had less time. Sicily would of had months on months extra time to recover.
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Yes. The players are measured during their draft year. They are not updated.
Luke Breust is 184cm. Sicily towers over him. He is far closer in height to Jack Gunston who is 193cm.
He clearly had a growth spurt late.
Take it up with the AFL Hairy … 186cm
Club is Jeffed.
Should be a three term limit on all club presidents.
Jeff brought the limit in then broke it.
Hes just like Putin.
His personal ego will destroy the club.
Should be a three term limit on all club presidents.
Jeff brought the limit in then broke it.
Hes just like Putin.
His personal ego will destroy the club.
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Yep. The AFL player heights being out of date is definitely one of the key issues faced by the club.
You can argue about his height, and whether he has grown in stature since his draft year, but he's certainly grown as a person.
Doesn't seem to get as rattled by spuds like Jed Lamb riling him up these days. Jed who?
That's Sicily choking the last remnants of a career out of Jed before Lamb was finally delisted the following season. Hard to judge their height difference from that photo. 5cm according to the records. Disgraceful bullying from Sicily. Thank god he's beyond that kind of thing now.
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You can argue about his height, and whether he has grown in stature since his draft year, but he's certainly grown as a person.
Doesn't seem to get as rattled by spuds like Jed Lamb riling him up these days. Jed who?
That's Sicily choking the last remnants of a career out of Jed before Lamb was finally delisted the following season. Hard to judge their height difference from that photo. 5cm according to the records. Disgraceful bullying from Sicily. Thank god he's beyond that kind of thing now.
Heart goes out to Hawks fans - trolling a random fringe player from a bygone era is about as good as it gets at present. Very creative though.
That Sicily chokehold is the pictorial expression of what 17 clubs do to the lowly Hawks on a weekly basis.
You can argue about his height, and whether he has grown in stature since his draft year, but he's certainly grown as a person.
Doesn't seem to get as rattled by spuds like Jed Lamb riling him up these days. Jed who?
That's Sicily choking the last remnants of a career out of Jed before Lamb was finally delisted the following season. Hard to judge their height difference from that photo. 5cm according to the records. Disgraceful bullying from Sicily. Thank god he's beyond that kind of thing now.
That’s it ?
Jed Lamb …
That’s all you got ?
Gee, the next 10 years are gunna be hard for you guys
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