Can Hawthorn succeed while ignoring the elite end of the draft?

[QuietB]

And they're going to get 2 BnF winners back into their lineup for 2020? Wowee, big room for improvement there.

Who are they?

 

[Niggles]

I may be under-rating Richmond, certainly if they win another couple they will prove their worth, but for mine they are still a team that got 'lucky' by coming good at the right time.

After reading that I deleted all the waffle and will respond to this part. Lol.

As for the 2008 side, i'm not placing in them in the same bracket as the 3 pt one 5-7 years later. Bud the BOLDED Italic underlined quote of yours is exactly what the hawks 3 pt side copped. A weaker era due to the 2 new teams gobbling up the majority of the talent 2-5 years earlier. A fantastic achievement looking back on in history but in reality, all the other teams were at their weakest in years. If you cant see that then this is not worth even discussing.

 

[Pessimistic]

Well I'm not sure what Essendon have to do with anything, but I seem to remember them beating Hawthorn convincingly and playing finals with the 2nd least experienced list in the league in 2019.

And they're going to get 2 BnF winners back into their lineup for 2020? Wowee, big room for improvement there.

'convincingly' what is the meaning of that for the rest of us?

 

[Pessimistic]

After reading that I deleted all the waffle and will respond to this part. Lol.

As for the 2008 side, i'm not placing in them in the same bracket as the 3 pt one 5-7 years later. Bud the BOLDED Italic underlined quote of yours is exactly what the hawks 3 pt side copped. A weaker era due to the 2 new teams gobbling up the majority of the talent 2-5 years earlier. A fantastic achievement looking back on in history but in reality, all the other teams were at their weakest in years. If you cant see that then this is not worth even discussing.

the 'others' are weaker now

anyway its been done to death, but Hawks recruited 8 three time premiership players during that period in exactly the same drafts (and with inferior picks) as those poor inconvenienced teams who were supposed to overtake us but for the 'expansion teams' picks wah wah making it 'hard' for them

and given GWS only just made a frand final, gold coast never made finals, im wondering which players exactly could have helped other teams

 

[Simon_Nesbit]

After reading that I deleted all the waffle and will respond to this part. Lol.

As for the 2008 side, i'm not placing in them in the same bracket as the 3 pt one 5-7 years later. Bud the BOLDED Italic underlined quote of yours is exactly what the hawks 3 pt side copped. A weaker era due to the 2 new teams gobbling up the majority of the talent 2-5 years earlier. A fantastic achievement looking back on in history but in reality, all the other teams were at their weakest in years. If you cant see that then this is not worth even discussing.

So you're going to ignore the part of the post that specifically addresses your comment?

The 'weaker era' from the 2 new teams starts approximately 5 years after their entry (2011 + 5 = 2016), and stops about 8 years after the final concessions....obviously now extended further due to additional GC concessions.

 

[Scotland]

lol yes they did

To be fair he won his Brownlow at WC.

 

[threesixpio]

After reading that I deleted all the waffle and will respond to this part. Lol.

As for the 2008 side, i'm not placing in them in the same bracket as the 3 pt one 5-7 years later. Bud the BOLDED Italic underlined quote of yours is exactly what the hawks 3 pt side copped. A weaker era due to the 2 new teams gobbling up the majority of the talent 2-5 years earlier. A fantastic achievement looking back on in history but in reality, all the other teams were at their weakest in years. If you cant see that then this is not worth even discussing.

Yeah everyone knew this too at the time.

 

[threesixpio]

 

[HolyWars]

I'm sorry to say this but I really think Hawthorn are going to bottom out in 2020 and won't even get close to finals. Their list is quite awful at the moment.

I think we will move into 4-6.

Essendon will fall as always.

 

[Jobe Watson]

I think we will move into bottom 4-6.

Agreed.

 

[Pessimistic]

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tonight king said only 48% of draftees went on to play 100 games

hawks at 44% with ordinary live pcks are doing alright.

 

[Leeda]

they can do anything they like when they know what they are doing and they walk under the radar....

 

[Leeda]

I think we will move into 4-6.

Essendon will fall as always.

under pants is what I am sensing and you will write the wrong you are espousing...
cross hairs are also what is garnering a splash in the small pool...

 

[Pessimistic]

I reckon six clubs ignored the elite end of the draft this year

Wheres the commentary?

 

[matey]

I reckon six clubs ignored the elite end of the draft this year

Wheres the commentary?

Clubs starting to copy Clarko’s innovative ideas again!

 

[threesixpio]

Is Day at the elite end? The fact that he could be makes this thread more annoying which I didn’t think was possible

 

[Marcel Proust]

Is Day at the elite end? The fact that he could be makes this thread more annoying which I didn’t think was possible

i dunno but he needs to eat more often

 

[threesixpio]

i dunno but he needs to eat more often

I have on good authority from his family that every Day people eat

 

[threesixpio]

Hmm my conjugation stuffs that joke up a bit

 

[Scotland]

The draft begins at 47.

 

[Marcel Proust]

The draft begins at 47.

#realdraft

 

[Cotchins Hair Piece]

They’ll die in the ass next season and will stay dead for the next decade. #HawksarethenextMelbourne.

 

[threesixpio]

They’ll die in the ass next season and will stay dead for the next decade. #HawksarethenextMelbourne.

Post non-merger period for both teams

 

[threesixpio]

I feel sorry for Hodgey. Can someone from Melbourne help carry them? No?

Oh well

 

[Pessimistic]

With the drafting of Day - who won't be AFL ready for at least 2 years - with their 1st rounder last night, it looks like Hawthorn have conceded that their next few years will be a 'reset period' before they try to go again with a better list. Smart really.

why trade patton in then? You make no sense. Try not to think of everything is like essendon. Most are light years
ahead

how come essendons first pick is 33? What have they ‘conceded’?