Can Hawthorn succeed while ignoring the elite end of the draft?

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TylerDurden

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That's a complete myth.

For premiership players from the 2013, 2014, 2015 flags.

Already on the list in 2008

Max Bailey (2013)
Jarryd Roughead (2013, 2014, 2015)
Jordan Lewis (2013, 2014, 2015)
Sam Mitchell (2013, 2014, 2015)
Brad Sewell (2013)
Grant Birchall (2013, 2014, 2015)
Luke Hodge (2013, 2014, 2015)
Brent Guerra (2013)
Lance Franklin (2013)
Cyril Rioli (2013, 2014, 2015)


Drafted

Ryan Shoenmakers (2015) - Pick 16, 2008 AFL Draft
Liam Shiels (2013, 2014, 2015) - Pick 34, 2008 AFL Draft
Ben Stratton (2013, 2014, 2015) - Pick 46, 2009 AFL Draft
Taylor Duryea (2014, 2015) - Pick 69, 2009 AFL Draft
Issac Smith (2013, 2014, 2015) - Pick 19, 2010 AFL Draft
Paul Puopolo (2013, 2014, 2015) - Pick 66, 2010 AFL Draft
Bradley Hill (2013, 2014, 2015) - Pick 33, 2011 AFL Draft


Rookie Listed

Luke Bruest (2013, 2014, 2015) - Pick 47, 2009 AFL Rookie Draft (Promoted 2011 AFL Draft)
Matthew Suckling (2014, 2015) - Pick 81, 2009 AFL Rookie Draft (Promoted 2009 AFL Draft)
Will Langford (2014) - Pick 85, 2011 AFL Rookie Draft (Promoted 2013 AFL Draft)


Traded For

Josh Gibson (2013, 2014, 2015) - 2009 Trade Period. Pick 25, 41 for Josh Gibson & Pick 69
Shaun Burgoyne (2013, 2014, 2015) - 2009 Trade Period. Multi way trade Picks 9, 16, 97 & Josh Nay for Shaun Burgoyne.
David Hale (2013, 2014, 2015) - 2010 Trade Period. End of First Round Compensation Pick (Campbell Brown left via Free Agency to GC) & Pick 71 for David Hale & Pick 52
Jack Gunston (2013, 2014, 2015) - 2011 Trade Period. Picks 24, 46 & 64 for Jack Gunston, Picks 52 & 71
Brian Lake (2013, 2014, 2015) - 2012 Trade Period. Picks 21 & 43 for Brian Lake & Pick 27
Matt Spangher (2014) - 2012 Trade Period. Pick 64 for Matt Spangher & Pick 70
Ben McEvoy (2014, 2015) - 2013 Trade Period. Shane Savage & Pick 17 for Ben McEvoy.

Free Agents

Johnathan Simpkin (2013 - Sub) - 2012 Delisted Free Agent
James Frawley (2015) - 2014 Unrestricted Free Agent


In this time frame Hawthorn saw Lance Franklin, Campbell Brown, Clinton Young, Tom Murphy, Xavier Ellis all leave under free agency.

Seems the "Hawthorn threepeat relied on free agency" myth has been busted.
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Vindicater

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Pick 13 not elite end? :$
The answer is clearly the last pick before Hawthorns.

If Hawthorn has pick 11 then the top end is 10.

If Downie gets bid on at 3 next year then the elite end is top 2.

If Downie goes first then clearly the draft lacks elite talent.
I refer you to my old post.

Sorry. The elite section ended at 12.
 

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I know plenty have had their say on this, but doesn't this refute the thread title? that the elite end of the drafts importance is diminshed?

Yes hawks have taken their luck, but you also need to be a consistenltly well run team.

even in 2001 when they 'got lucky' with the bumper draft, they also traded up, ie finished 4th not 4th last
Haha ya reckon. Yes, plenty of bites. Certainly hit my target audience = Insecure Hawks realising the sheer luck and timing of their arsey little run. :$
 

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