Can Richmond still be a contender this season?

Where will Richmond finish at the end of the H&A season?

  • 1-4

    Votes: 26 19.8%
  • 5-8

    Votes: 60 45.8%
  • Miss Finals

    Votes: 45 34.4%

  • Total voters
    131
  • Poll closed .

Tiger2709

Brownlow Medallist
Joined
Aug 27, 2009
Posts
23,468
Likes
19,706
Location
Perth
AFL Club
Richmond
Other Teams
Liverpool
Thing is I don't think it's a commitment thing, purely because of the prelim last year. Surely the boys would have been putting in 100% in a prelim. I just reckon th3 best midfields have us covered but our pressure allows us to beat good midfield
We could very easily be the next Geelong, good enough during the year but not against the best.
Gotta have faith, that Prelim was one out of the bag we had some ill players and were well off our best.
The beauty is it looks like we have unearthed some kids that can play in the middle and get plenty of the ball.
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

Joined
Mar 22, 2019
Posts
21
Likes
48
AFL Club
Richmond
Thread starter #177
Yep, theyre not top four but beat Melb first up and are probably a three goal better side at home than at the g.
We pinched it but stiff sh.t if we win another two on the road this year thats three more than last year.
At the end of the H/A there’ll be about 4/5 teams with a real expectation of winning it.
I reckon we’ll be one of em, we just gotta get at least two wins where we really pump em by 8-10 gaols and get the percentage better than average
We did win ONE “on the road” last season ... against Gold Coast Suns.
I was there.
 

theyellowsash

Norm Smith Medallist
Joined
Feb 9, 2009
Posts
7,615
Likes
8,462
Location
Footscray
AFL Club
Richmond
Gotta have faith, that Prelim was one out of the bag we had some ill players and were well off our best.
The beauty is it looks like we have unearthed some kids that can play in the middle and get plenty of the ball.
It wasn't 1 put of the bag, 3 of 4 games were like that. No use sticking our head in the sand hoping it will change, we have real problems against quality midfields
 

Tiger2709

Brownlow Medallist
Joined
Aug 27, 2009
Posts
23,468
Likes
19,706
Location
Perth
AFL Club
Richmond
Other Teams
Liverpool
It wasn't 1 put of the bag, 3 of 4 games were like that. No use sticking our head in the sand hoping it will change, we have real problems against quality midfields
Thats where the current injuries may be a blessing in disguise, if the kids like Ross step up as they did on Sat. then we may have the answer to our problems.

Our greatest problem towards the end of last year in my mind was a big drop in intensity and pressure, something we rediscovered for the last 3 quarters on the weekend.
 

Madtiger2006

Brownlow Medallist
Joined
Dec 18, 2005
Posts
20,225
Likes
10,993
AFL Club
Richmond
Other Teams
Richmond
It wasn't 1 put of the bag, 3 of 4 games were like that. No use sticking our head in the sand hoping it will change, we have real problems against quality midfields
Not anymore. Enter Ross, Balta and Caddy. We had none of this size and back up in the middle against Coll and Bolton and Baker up forward would have provided more pressure. We’ll be much better next time we play them. Nank matched Grundy for 3/4 but was too tired in the last. Balta would help alot
 

partycorolla

Norm Smith Medallist
Joined
Mar 16, 2009
Posts
7,658
Likes
11,624
Location
Black Rock
AFL Club
Richmond
Worked for Collingwood and gws. They picked us apart through the middle playing like that. You give good teams 100 more disposals and you're not gonna do well most the time. Port are shit.
Pies didn't actually get us through the middle at all until the last 10-15 mins. They worked it around the sides and then kicked long from 80 into packs for most of the game. It was actually once the game opened up in the last 15 mins they actually looked dangerous. The biggest issue in that game was that our game plan (which is essentially creating forward half pressure, then turnovers, then goaling on the rebound) was not evident at all. There was no forward half pressure.

In the GWS game, the pressure/intensity was a little better but poor skills/discipline combined with being down a man really cost us. We certainly got the forward 50 pressure right on Sat night. The skills coming out of the back half were still average at times but we were the youngest team across the comp last week so you'll get that. It was nowhere near as poor as the Carl/GC game or the Adel/Nth game.

It isn't that teams have worked us out - it's that we haven't been playing good pressure footy. Possessions can be quite meaningless. GWS had 60 more than us in the prelim and we pumped them by 7 goals (until the final siren). It depends on where those possessions are and how much pressure they are under in disposing of it - which v the Pies was mainly in the back half but with zero pressure which is unacceptable for us. I certainly don't want to see us allowing teams to have that much possession though - it means we don't have the pill.
 

JAKLAUGHING

Premium Platinum
Joined
Nov 20, 2008
Posts
17,553
Likes
26,522
Location
Vilnius
AFL Club
Richmond
Pies didn't actually get us through the middle at all until the last 10-15 mins. They worked it around the sides and then kicked long from 80 into packs for most of the game. It was actually once the game opened up in the last 15 mins they actually looked dangerous. The biggest issue in that game was that our game plan (which is essentially creating forward half pressure, then turnovers, then goaling on the rebound) was not evident at all. There was no forward half pressure.

In the GWS game, the pressure/intensity was a little better but poor skills/discipline combined with being down a man really cost us. We certainly got the forward 50 pressure right on Sat night. The skills coming out of the back half were still average at times but we were the youngest team across the comp last week so you'll get that. It was nowhere near as poor as the Carl/GC game or the Adel/Nth game.

It isn't that teams have worked us out - it's that we haven't been playing good pressure footy. Possessions can be quite meaningless. GWS had 60 more than us in the prelim and we pumped them by 7 goals (until the final siren). It depends on where those possessions are and how much pressure they are under in disposing of it - which v the Pies was mainly in the back half but with zero pressure which is unacceptable for us. I certainly don't want to see us allowing teams to have that much possession though - it means we don't have the pill.
The way i currently see it, it's easier to get possession of the ball in the fat part of the field, its the widest area and harder to counter...
It get's harder to have the more damaging possessions that can potentially earn you goals at the pointy end of the field...the play is more congested it's flooded with players...the playing area is reduced...it's just plain harder!
So of course if your defense is pretty good the oppo is playing to your strenghts...so of course oppo possessions mount up...and if they fail to capitalize and score it then they become meaningless possessions...
Wobbles started this sheet with Malthouse as coach and naffun as his assistant...full forward press with Cloke up front...till oppo defenses cracked...
 
Top Bottom