Society/Culture Can we please stop equating the risk posed by left wing extremists with that of right wing extremists?

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Radicalized right-wingers uniting online -- many inspired by Trump -- threaten democracy overseas

Australian researchers published a study this week mapping the online activity of right-wing extremists in New South Wales, concluding such individuals—many of them inspired by U.S. President Donald Trump—pose an "insidious" threat to the country's democracy.

The study, Mapping Networks and Narratives of Online Right-Wing Extremists in New South Wales, was conducted by researchers at Macquarie University and Victoria University, who analyzed the Facebook pages of 30 extreme right-wing groups and tens of thousands of tweets from over 3,300 users in the southeastern state.

The researchers found that on numerous social media platforms—including Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Gab, 4chan, and 8chan/kun—communities of mostly young men are uniting over "the theme of white identity under threat."

Anti-semitism, Islamophobia, and far-right conspiracy theories like QAnon are common narratives used to engage and recruit young men into extremist groups, the study found. Trump plays a significant role in the conversation, according to Macquarie University researcher Julian Droogan.


 

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It is a right wing ideology. As proven above. If you think it's not, explain why.
You can't measure a medieval theocratic authoritarian system on a post-enlightenment secular democratic scale.

Throwing out politicised terms like "islamo-fascism" or "conservative islam" is nothing but mental masturbation to reinforce your belief that "left good, right bad". Those of us that live in the real world understand that politics (and life in general) isn't that simple.

It's "non-binary", to coin a phrase.
 

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Interesting.

The OP of this thread literally banned me (from a thread on the AFL main board, nonetheless) and called me an "alt-right f*ckwit" and claimed to have doxxed me.

I'd take anything he says with a grain of salt considering he's a sooky middle-aged man who moderates an AFL forum. Maybe if he supported Richmond and not Carlton, he wouldn't be making threads such as these. I'm surprised he's not in here talking to himself after taking away any dissenter's posting privileges.
 

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Malifice i wonder what are your thoughts on this? Is a cartoon of Islams leading figure such a big deal? Middle east are banning French goods even, but how many of them have condemned the beheading to the extent they have condemned the cartoons?

 

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Malifice i wonder what are your thoughts on this? Is a cartoon of Islams leading figure such a big deal? Middle east are banning French goods even, but how many of them have condemned the beheading to the extent they have condemned the cartoons?

It goes without saying that i think the murder was an abhorrent act and it speaks to an element of fundamentalist Islam that is to be rightly condemned.

But can I also please get a list of neo nazi violence in Europe this past week? That sh*t gets largely ignored.
 

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It goes without saying that i think the murder was an abhorrent act and it speaks to an element of fundamentalist Islam that is to be rightly condemned.

But can I also please get a list of neo nazi violence in Europe this past week? That sh*t gets largely ignored.
Ignored? you are not serious. What about the arrest and sentencing of Golden Dawn leaders in Greece? Goyim Party founder and members in Germannyand those fascist Danish group faced similar fates too all this year alone. It doesn't get ignored Neo nazis are a problem here. I have personally experienced the worst of them during soccer matches being aboriginal etc.

But then you have leaders of the Arab world, leaders of Pakistan putting the blame on Macron on this. Clearly they are promoting hate and the divide instead of supporting free speech and avoiding cultural clashes. And this happened recently, when a month ago a Pakistani man tried to kill members of Charlie Hebdo again.
 

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It goes without saying that i think the murder was an abhorrent act and it speaks to an element of fundamentalist Islam that is to be rightly condemned.

But can I also please get a list of neo nazi violence in Europe this past week? That sh*t gets largely ignored.
It's not Anjem Choudary - it's an annoying cringeworthy woke mod on bigfooty.
 

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Ignored? you are not serious. What about the arrest and sentencing of Golden Dawn leaders in Greece? Goyim Party founder and members in Germannyand those fascist Danish group faced similar fates too all this year alone. It doesn't get ignored Neo nazis are a problem here. I have personally experienced the worst of them during soccer matches being aboriginal etc.

But then you have leaders of the Arab world, leaders of Pakistan putting the blame on Macron on this. Clearly they are promoting hate and the divide instead of supporting free speech and avoiding cultural clashes. And this happened recently, when a month ago a Pakistani man tried to kill members of Charlie Hebdo again.
I haven’t seen any of those incidents on the news.
 

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In Australia maybe, in Europe it made the headlines, still is.

This hardly even made the papers:

The Hanau shootings occurred on 19 February 2020, when ten people were killed and five others wounded in a terrorist shooting spree by a far-right extremist targeting two shisha bars in Hanau, near the city of Frankfurt, Hesse, Germany. After the attacks, the gunman returned to his apartment, where he killed his mother and then committed suicide.[2] The massacre was called an act of terrorism by the German Minister of Internal Affairs
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But i am not denying that there is no problem with the neo nazis, it's getting worse and as the cultural divide continues to get wide it will get worse. Which is my point, all these leaders from Pakistan and Middle east is condemning Macron instead of the Islamists is only going to divide more people. Why is Mo above criticism and depiction in France? Why is one religion above critism? It's France so the French law should be upheld. If i was in Pakistan it would be a different story.
 

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But i am not denying that there is no problem with the neo nazis, it's getting worse and as the cultural divide continues to get wide it will get worse. Which is my point, all these leaders from Pakistan and Middle east is condemning Macron instead of the Islamists is only going to divide more people.
Im not defending fundamental Islam, but this is what the leader of Pakistan had to say:

"This is a time when Pres Macron could have put healing touch & denied space to extremists rather than creating further polarisation & marginalisation that inevitably leads to radicalisation," Khan wrote.
"It is unfortunate that he has chosen to encourage Islamophobia by attacking Islam rather than the terrorists who carry out violence, be it Muslims, White Supremacists or Nazi ideologists."
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...n-of-attacking-islam/articleshow/78859784.cms

Of course Pakistan and Saudi Arabia both have vested interests in promoting Jihadis and appeasing the fundamentalists to some degree. It's no different to how Trump panders to White nationalists and similar groups.

It's their election base.
 

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Im not defending fundamental Islam, but this is what the leader of Pakistan had to say:



https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...n-of-attacking-islam/articleshow/78859784.cms

Of course Pakistan and Saudi Arabia both have vested interests in promoting Jihadis and appeasing the fundamentalists to some degree. It's no different to how Trump panders to White nationalists and similar groups.

It's their election base.
But it's not just Pakistan that's the point. Turkey, Jordan, Kuwait, Tunisia, Qatar and even the Gulf Cooperation Council have called people to ban French products. I would be totally ok with Salafist nations like Pakistan and Saudi, but the boycott is much widespread.

 

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The height of hypocrisy is that none of these nations have the guts to protest against China on their treatment of Uyghurs. Cause China simply wouldn't care about what they have to say. If this was happening in Europe they would up in arms about how France is racist. Pakistan of course being the key beneficiary of Chinese investment and CPEC but keeps protesting about Kashmir every single day. In reality these leaders like Khan are making the task easy for the Salafists.
 

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The height of hypocrisy is that none of these nations have the guts to protest against USA on their treatment of Blacks. Cause the USA simply wouldn't care about what they have to say. If this was happening in Europe they would up in arms about how France is racist. Israel of course being the key beneficiary of US investment but keeps protesting about Palestine every single day. In reality these leaders like Trump are making the task easy for the Democrats
 

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The reality at the moment is the theists have grabbed the ropes of government right now, be it Pakistan, or America and then we get the Libs here preselecting the likes of David van Gend here, people who think their faith is more important than good public policy. At least Pakistan is honest enough to call itself an Islamic republic.
 

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The reality at the moment is the theists have grabbed the ropes of government right now, be it Pakistan, or America and then we get the Libs here preselecting the likes of David van Gend here, people who think their faith is more important than good public policy. At least Pakistan is honest enough to call itself an Islamic republic.
Thats the point, in a secular country, one should be able to critique religion.
 

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