Society/Culture Can we please stop equating the risk posed by left wing extremists with that of right wing extremists?
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Here's classic left-wing extremism in action. Difference to most right-wing extremism is that it is actually by those in Government. Scary.
www.thetimes.co.uk
Hate crime bill: Hate talk in homes ‘must be prosecuted’
Conversations over the dinner table that incite hatred must be prosecuted under Scotland’s hate crime law, the justice secretary has said.
Journalists and theatre directors should also face the courts if their work is deemed to deliberately stoke up prejudice, Humza Yousaf said.
Hate crime bill: Hate talk in homes ‘must be prosecuted’
Conversations over the dinner table that incite hatred must be prosecuted under Scotland’s hate crime law, the justice secretary has said.Journalists and theatr
Hate crime bill: Hate talk in homes ‘must be prosecuted’
Conversations over the dinner table that incite hatred must be prosecuted under Scotland’s hate crime law, the justice secretary has said.
Journalists and theatre directors should also face the courts if their work is deemed to deliberately stoke up prejudice, Humza Yousaf said.
Here's another example of what left-wing extremism causes: not only the terrorist attack itself, but the Government putting the fear of God into people to speak honestly and plainly.
www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk
Arena bomb inquiry: Steward who spotted Abedi looking suspicious hesitated because 'he feared being called racist'
A Showsec steward who spotted Manchester Arena bomber Salman Abedi acting suspiciously 15 minutes before he detonated his device told the inquiry into the atrocity he hesitated because he feared being branded a racist.
In his police statement, the inquiry heard Mr Lawler said: "I felt unsure about what to do. It’s very difficult to define a terrorist . For all I knew, he might have been an innocent young Asian male sitting on the steps. I did not want people to think that I was stereotyping him because of his race.
"He could have been an older brother waiting for his younger sister. He looked like he was dressed for travel in a train station. People would sit in that area often when they were waiting for trains.
"I was scared of being wrong and being branded a racist . If I ’d got it wrong then I would have got into trouble. It made me hesitant about what to do. I wanted to get it right and not to mess up by overreacting or judging someone by their race."
Arena steward who spotted Abedi feared being branded racist
Kyle Lawler, then 18, admitted he had a 'bad feeling' when he saw suicide bomber Salman Abedi
Arena bomb inquiry: Steward who spotted Abedi looking suspicious hesitated because 'he feared being called racist'
A Showsec steward who spotted Manchester Arena bomber Salman Abedi acting suspiciously 15 minutes before he detonated his device told the inquiry into the atrocity he hesitated because he feared being branded a racist.
In his police statement, the inquiry heard Mr Lawler said: "I felt unsure about what to do. It’s very difficult to define a terrorist . For all I knew, he might have been an innocent young Asian male sitting on the steps. I did not want people to think that I was stereotyping him because of his race.
"He could have been an older brother waiting for his younger sister. He looked like he was dressed for travel in a train station. People would sit in that area often when they were waiting for trains.
"I was scared of being wrong and being branded a racist . If I ’d got it wrong then I would have got into trouble. It made me hesitant about what to do. I wanted to get it right and not to mess up by overreacting or judging someone by their race."
Security unable to secure the lives of the innocent because of the Racism Police.
Is that it?
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It’s paywalled so I can’t read the details.Here's classic left-wing extremism in action. Difference to most right-wing extremism is that it is actually by those in Government. Scary.
Hate crime bill: Hate talk in homes ‘must be prosecuted’
Conversations over the dinner table that incite hatred must be prosecuted under Scotland’s hate crime law, the justice secretary has said.Journalists and theatr
Hate crime bill: Hate talk in homes ‘must be prosecuted’
Conversations over the dinner table that incite hatred must be prosecuted under Scotland’s hate crime law, the justice secretary has said.
Journalists and theatre directors should also face the courts if their work is deemed to deliberately stoke up prejudice, Humza Yousaf said.
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Because of this, Mr Yousaf was forced to amend the legislation and change the controversial "stirring up" offences section which has been condemned by opponents.
It now means "stirring up offences" would be limited to “intent” relating to age, disability, religion, sexual orientation, transgender identity and variations in sex characteristics and therefore prosecutions could only be brought in this respect.
- So it never happened, the democratic process stopped it from happening. Prosecution in the home wasn’t even a specific part of the bill.
During today’s session, Glasgow Tory MSP and Committee Convenor Adam Tomkins questioned the Scottish Justice Secretary on how you can commit an offence of public order in private.
It comes after Mr Yousaf suggested during the committee session that he would be in favour of the stirring up offences applying inside home dwellings.
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Take a step back and read up on these thing before falling for click bait.
It now means "stirring up offences" would be limited to “intent” relating to age, disability, religion, sexual orientation, transgender identity and variations in sex characteristics and therefore prosecutions could only be brought in this respect.
- So it never happened, the democratic process stopped it from happening. Prosecution in the home wasn’t even a specific part of the bill.
During today’s session, Glasgow Tory MSP and Committee Convenor Adam Tomkins questioned the Scottish Justice Secretary on how you can commit an offence of public order in private.
It comes after Mr Yousaf suggested during the committee session that he would be in favour of the stirring up offences applying inside home dwellings.
SNP's new hate crime law could see people prosecuted for expressing views in OWN HOMES
THE SNP's new hate crime bill could criminalise free speech in people's own homes, MSPs have been told.
Take a step back and read up on these thing before falling for click bait.
Hahahahaha, weakest reasoning ever - "democratic process stopped it from happening". WHY was it happening in the first place? Left wing extremism, that's why.
Pfft not clickbait at all. It was an article in The Times. And it's all Scotland has been talking about in the last 24 hrs.
He literally said that was the aim of the new laws.
why should this not be prosecuted. It would if you did so down the pub but not in your house?
I think raging left-wingers prosecuting dinner time conversations in the home makes my mind up for me pretty simply, yes.
What, you're left with some doubt as to whether this is sane and normal??
Erm, no, that is not what Yousaf is saying at all. He didn't even mention violence.
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It’s not even what is happening FFS.
I mean. Just take a look at yourself you shrill idiot.
On top of that you’re pretending that “teh eeeevil leeeft” are the only people who could EVER legislate against people’s freedoms.
It’s hilarious!
This is a bill being debated as per the democratic process.
Don’t get hooked in by the panic-merchants.
Sorry the difference here is this is being done by a government usually described as "centre left/ progressive" especially on social issues etc. Now cf a government of a right-wing persuasion legislating in this way. It would definitely be described as "far-right". So how about we apply the same standards here and describe the SNP as a "far-left extremist" government?
Can you show me a right-wing government of an English speaking nation legislating against dinner time conversation in your own home?
Yes, you say it is being debated as per the democratic process - that's because there are parties and MSPs that are NOT far-left extremists involved.
I'm zeroing in on the SNP and their Minister here - not the entire Scottish legal system.
What's scary is that this is exactly what could be included. Literally.
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Any idea when was the last time a right-wing person beheaded someone?
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Today, in France.
Motives of far-right and Islamist terrorists ‘eerily similar’ | The Strategist
An international terrorism specialist has found an ‘eerie similarity’ between the manifesto released by right-wing terrorist Brenton Tarrant, who murdered 50 people and injured dozens more in New Zealand last year, and jihadist propaganda issued ...
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That’s what hardline extremist religious conservatives will do.France has become the enemy of the Islamists due to President Macron's defence of cartoons that depict the Prophet Mohammed.
Three more dead in an incident in Nice. An elderly woman beheaded in a church, a man has his throat cut, another man dies of multiple stab wounds.
Two further attacks took place on Thursday morning, one in France and one in Saudi Arabia. A man was shot dead in Montfavet near Avignon after threatening police with a handgun. And a guard was attacked outside the French consulate in Jeddah.
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has called for a boycott of French goods.
France attack: Three killed in 'Islamist terrorist' stabbings
President Macron says France will not give up its values after the attack at the Notre-Dame basilica.www.bbc.com
I don't get the thread title. Stop "equating the risk of left wing extremism with right wing extremism "? Are you saying right wing extremism poses a higher risk than left wing terrorism or is your main point that people downplay right wing extremism? Islamic terrorism etc is extreme right wing.. communism is extreme left wing - imo its all shades of s**t at the extremes.
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