Society/Culture Can we please stop equating the risk posed by left wing extremists with that of right wing extremists?

[Lethality]

Also for what its worth, 'Men' tend to favor the Republicans, and we've established that they're the real threat here.

No we haven't, it's too big of a generalisation to be anything but bigotry in my view and probably others.

 

[Malifice]

No we haven't.

I made two points:

1) Men commit 700 percent more murders than women, and virtually all mass shootings and terrorist attacks in the USA are by men.

2) Men tend to vote Republican, and are doing so in greater numbers than ever before.

Both of those statements are objectively true. Which one don't you agree with?

 

[Lethality]

I made two points:

1) Men commit 700 percent more murders than women, and virtually all mass shootings and terrorist attacks in the USA are by men.

2) Men tend to vote Republican, and are doing so in greater numbers than ever before.

Both of those statements are objectively true. Which one don't you agree with?

There's a big difference between quoting stats and facts, and then going on to make statements like men are the real threat. I would feel uncomfortable making that kind of generalisation even about more specific groups let alone half the population.

 

[Boronia67]

Now adjust those stats by poverty, and the ethnic disparity disappears.

Explain this:



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Not only is it 'men' that are the leading demographic for murder (and by a country mile), you cant make that disparity disappear by factoring in poverty either.

The ethnic disparity still exists regardless of economic backgrounds.

 

[Boronia67]

Also for what its worth, 'Men' (far and away the most violent demographic, committing most of the murders, and virtually all terror attacks and mass shootings) tend to favor the Republicans.



How U.S. men and women differ in voter turnout, party identification | Pew Research Center

79% of African American males voted democrat at the last presidential election

 

[Carringbush2010]

How is that in any way proportionate?

You're a woman; how many blokes do you know that you could physically overpower in a fight for your life?

You're not conflating a can chucking contest with a fight til the death are you?

 

[Chief]

79% of African American males voted democrat at the last presidential election

And what was the point again? I lost track.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

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79% of African American males voted democrat at the last presidential election

Did all the African Americans vote?

 

[Carringbush2010]

I've answered your question with far more nuance than your options available.

No no no Taylor, you're not allowed to use nuances. It has to be simple so a certain narrative can be followed.

keep it simple.

Woman chuck man at can = ok

Man retaliates and chucks can back = not ok

 

[Carringbush2010]

It's interesting how the conversation went from pegging a can at the back of someones head, to squeezing balls.

Theres a few degrees of separation there, regardless of hypotheticals.

Interesting how the thread went from left v right fringe lunatics to then a gender battle.

 

[Chief]

You mean when gender became relevant to the discussion?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Interesting how the thread went from left v right fringe lunatics to then a gender battle.

Are you an incel?

 

[Carringbush2010]

Smoko calls it unAustralian:

'Smoko' lol that is gold Cheif! Fargin hilarious. Gonna use this now.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Are you an incel?

Not sure how your mind works (if at all), so I don't know how you come to that question.

Anyways, no I'm not an incel. Too old for a start.

 

[Carringbush2010]

You mean when gender became relevant to the discussion?

Well it isn't. Yet we have a poster war going on here about justified v unjustified can pegging based on gender.

 

[Chief]

Well it isn't. Yet we have a poster war going on here about justified v unjustified can pegging based on gender.

Maybe think about deeper about what the discussion is about?

 

[Carringbush2010]

Maybe think about deeper about what the discussion is about?

Well the 'discussion' is not concentrated on Antifa or Nazi Hanson lovers is it. Y'know the thread subject.

 

[Chief]

Well the 'discussion' is not concentrated on Antifa or Nazi Hanson lovers is it. Y'know the thread subject.

Yes it’s a little off topic but, we do get those diversions from time to time.

 

[Boronia67]

And what was the point again? I lost track.

Most killings in the US are from demographics that vote democrats.

 

[Chief]

Most killings in the US are from demographics that vote democrats.

If true, what’s your interpretation of that data?

 

[Boronia67]

If true, what’s your interpretation of that data?

Most people who commit homicide vote for left wing parties.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Most people who commit homicide vote for left wing parties.

Democrats are right wing, just not as far right as republicans.

Also, voting in US is not compulsory. Not all African Americans vote, so your numbers are wrong.

 

[Boronia67]

Democrats are right wing, just not as far right as republicans.

Also, voting in US is not compulsory. Not all African Americans vote, so your numbers are wrong.

What criteria are you using to determine if a party is left or right leaning ?

Those stats are based on people who voted at the last presidential election.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

What criteria are you using to determine if a party is left or right leaning ?

Those stats are based on people who voted at the last presidential election.

Not all of them vote. For example, if only 50% of African Americans voted, then the 80% of those that did vote democrat, would only be 40% of African Americans.

So, most of the murderers, could be people that didn't vote at all.

 

[Boronia67]

Not all of them vote. For example, if only 50% of African Americans voted, then the 80% of those that did vote democrat, would only be 40% of African Americans.

So, most of the murderers, could be people that didn't vote at all.

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Not claiming that all African Americans voted. However those stats I provided are a analysis of the people who voted at the last presidential election NOT a analysis of the general population.

While we don't have specific data on how criminals vote we do know that serious crime including homicide is more prevalent in low socio-economic areas, ethnic communities and in the inner city suburbs. These are all demographics that strongly lean Democrat.