Opinion Cancelwood Magpariahs

[Chief Ten Beers]

Shhh, we're huntin' leftists...

Of course good old rusted on JB1975 steps in...

 

[JB1975]

Of course good old rusted on JB1975 steps in...

With panache and good humour. You can rely on me for that.

 

[Maggie5]

I would like to see a Fair & Balanced media.

Those days are gone (if they ever existed), social media and being the first to report on something or even make it up sometimes is now the norm.

Australian Press Council is a toothless tiger nowadays.

Check this out on a complaint made and their decision, slap with a wet lettuce.

Complainant / The Daily Telegraph | Australian Press Council

www.presscouncil.org.au

 

[sideswipe]

nothing rightwhingers like more than shifting goalposts in the presence of inconvenient facts.

Cough, cough - shifting goalposts doesn't even make it into our top 10. Things we like more:
1. Money,
2. Lower taxes (see 1)
3. Less social security (see 2)
4. Wars and shit
5. Different sex marriage
6. Same sex schools
7. Katherine Delves (would probably put her higher if this wasn't a family show)
8. Union bashing
9. Laughing at the less fortunate
10. Weird sexual peccadilloes

That's just off the top of my head. Oh yeah, and polo shirts.

 

[Dynamics]

What exactly is your problem if all Murdoch media is right leaning anyway?

The rest of the media, including taxpayer funded ABC included, is mostly left leaning. Isn't it a good thing some people can chose to read the Age? Others can choose to read the Hun? As in free press?

But I suppose that's what you progressives are all about, a differing opinion that is not in line with the narrative should be called out and ostracised. In a free society as ours, there should be right leaning papers, should be left leaning papers, should be neutral papers - only the government funded media should be neutral...

I don't identify with any "side" in this false fight between the "left" and "right". And here's my two cents on why (in part) it's bad for Rupert's organisation to take a concerted political stance in anything.

Because ANY media outlet that presents itself as a genuine news service while peddling their own agenda (left, right, whatever) is damaging to the public discourse. When it's as globally powerful as News Limited is, you have yourself an organisation yielding massive influence for its own ends but with zero accountability to the public they baffle with their bullshit.

The argument that the ABC needs to be left leaning to balance out the likes of News Limited buys into the very same partisan garbage that's used to divide, distract and manipulate consumers and keep them in a constant state of of either clicking outrage or backslapping echo-chamberism.

Theyre two sides of the same rusty coin.

 

[JB1975]

7. Katherine Delves (would probably put her higher if this wasn't a family show)

Might be something Freudian about your misspelling of her surname. She's Deves, she does not Delves.

You sick reactionary f***.

 

[sideswipe]

Might be something Freudian about your misspelling of her surname. She's Deves, she does not Delves.

You sick reactionary f***.

keep your dirty fingernailed hands off her.

 

[magpies42]

This is embarrassingly naïve.

Take a look in the mirror buddy…

 

[magpies42]

Trying to imply he doesn't have agency over his products is fairly bizarre. He's essentially an auteur with the editorial lines.

And, arguing that his organisations aren't right-leaning on social issues is pretty absurd. Only by some American definition of social ideology would that be correct. Fox Corp aren't right leaning socially? The Australian is obviously right-leaning, as is the Hun.

Every media outlet pushes an agenda…left, right or other…and targets a market like any business does. Your comments are so shallow and poorly thought out… all the time pontificating and interpreting things you don’t understand.

 

[steviewonder36]

There are some Magpies forums (Wisbey's) who are sticking it to the players and the club for not doing enough.

So there many supporters are not supporting the club in this media pile on too that i have seen on the net.

 

[76woodenspooners]

Or maybe KFC is loving how many extra times their logo is appearing on tv?

Sponsors might even make noise about values but deep down in their dark hearts they don’t give two fks. Corporates sponsoring afl teams is pretty much the business of exposing the logos. And as far as the Pies are concerned, right now, business is a booming.


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That’s true.

But “<brand> cancels sponsorship over scandal about …” also is very good at putting logos in front of eyeballs. As happened with Wellingham / TAC.

 

[magpies42]

There are some magpies forums (Wisbey's) who are sticking to the players and the club for not doing enough.

So there are so-called supporters are not supporting the club in this media pile on too.

Well this is how we end up getting torn apart by this nonsense, we don’t stick together…too many people react to what’s written rather than understanding what has actually happened.

Should Eddy have been matched out the way he was, clearly not. But it happened people buy into drivel. I would expect magpie fans to be more across the details and to be supportive of the club in season at least!

 

[magpies42]

That’s true.

But “<brand> cancels sponsorship over scandal about …” also is very good at putting logos in front of eyeballs. As happened with Wellingham / TAC.

That’s fine, somebody else slots in…Collingwood is the biggest club because of the supporter base and because we are the most successful and hated club. We shape the market not the other way around, sponsors will come.

 

[gouki88]

Every media outlet pushes an agenda…left, right or other…and targets a market like any business does. Your comments are so shallow and poorly thought out… all the time pontificating and interpreting things you don’t understand.

Your inability to read strikes once more. See the post I was replying to? Or did you just jump in guns blazing in your eagerness to try and "own" someone a bit more progressive than you. The poster I was responding to argued that Murdoch's various media outlets don't push a RW line - that is a crock of shit.

It's all well and good to push a right wing agenda, freedom of speech and all. But given the tendency for Murdoch's media outlets to lie and exert considerable amounts of political influence, it becomes problematic. Our media market is insanely monopolised, a self-evident problem if we want it to execute its democratic role.

 

[MyManLynch]

Those days are gone (if they ever existed), social media and being the first to report on something or even make it up sometimes is now the norm.

Australian Press Council is a toothless tiger nowadays.

Check this out on a complaint made and their decision, slap with a wet lettuce.

Complainant / The Daily Telegraph | Australian Press Council

www.presscouncil.org.au

Quite pathetic…never trust a Journalist.
Up there with used car salesmen & insurance agents…

 

[76woodenspooners]

That’s fine, somebody else slots in…Collingwood is the biggest club because of the supporter base and because we are the most successful and hated club. We shape the market not the other way around, sponsors will come.

We have no right to be that arrogant.

Our training centre went without a naming rights sponsor for 14 months.

The Melbourne sporting sponsorship landscape is one of the most crowded in the world.

Huge amounts of marketing dollars are moving out of traditional channels like sponsorship, and into modern channels like Facebook, Google and other social media platforms that can better target and offer a better ROI of marketing $.

 

[Albert Parker]

That’s true.

But “<brand> cancels sponsorship over scandal about …” also is very good at putting logos in front of eyeballs. As happened with Wellingham / TAC.

Sure Wellingham for drink driving sees a withdrawal of a TAC sponsorship after other players had also transgressed in their vehicles.
But is "Finger licking good" KFC going to withdraw their sponsorship after that Jordy video?

 

[Good Horse]

Cough, cough - shifting goalposts doesn't even make it into our top 10. Things we like more:

10. Weird sexual peccadilloes

You don't have to tell me about this one.

It paid my way through university.

At least I got some of the money. My old highschool uniform was never the same though.

 

[Good Horse]

Sure Wellingham for drink driving sees a withdrawal of a TAC sponsorship after other players had also transgressed in their vehicles.
But is "Finger licking good" KFC going to withdraw their sponsorship after that Jordy video?

I would have thought Jordy could be a great ambassador for "I don't care...I love it!"

 

[76woodenspooners]

Sure Wellingham for drink driving sees a withdrawal of a TAC sponsorship after other players had also transgressed in their vehicles.

+ IIRC didn’t TAC simply move their sponsorship to Richmond?

So they retained the exposure of a big AFL club but got the added publicity of taking it off Collingwood.

 

[Pie eyed]

At what point do we, as supporters, need to be concerned that our club has become the media’s punching bag?

Essendon brought it upon themselves by experimenting with drugs not approved for use in humans, whom I’m informed made up a majority of their playing list at the time.

Carltank did what Carltank does. Oh and salary cap rorts, which they also do.

St. Kilda decided to pass around a teenaged girl like a bong in a dorm room, and take pics of themselves nude making odd faces at one another, because reasons.

Now I’m sure you’ll agree the media storm was entirely deserved in these instances, but now Collingwood is in the crosshairs for violations against TikTok. WTF?!

There is surely a stage at which we do need to be concerned for the welfare of our players, as Jordy mentioned, or genuinely worried that FA prospects might use the insane level of scrutiny directed at our list as a negative tiebreaker in signing a contract with us. Time for the club to push back, IMHO.

Now.
I am going to punch back.
**** the media.
I wouldn't wipe a dogs arse with the HUN or any other 9MSN or Murdoch bullshit factory.
Time these campaigners reap some of what they sow,

 

[Black_White]

For the record.
The ABC get the same amount of complaints from the Liberal/National parties in government as they get from the Labor party in government.
An often overlooked fact.
I agree that in the main the ABC appear left leaning, but this is simply because the right are such an easy target with the rorting of the public purse they continually do.
And remember, only the ABC are subject to constant oversight by the government of the day. ”Independently” of course…
Australia would be a poorer place without the ABC.

 

[Obese Arachnid]

The Richmond media Mafia have been doing a hatchet job on us for a while, Caroline, KB and John Ralph...

It was foretold & it has come to pass.

 

[Good Horse]

It was foretold & it has come to pass.

Is that the same text that spoke of the pony apocalypse?

 

[domus]

The club and playing group will have their own sets of expectations for players. Key to handling all of this external garbage is for the club to keep its eye fixed very much on those expectations and communicate that clearly and repeatedly to the players. Take care of their welfare and the culture of the group and club from within.

News Limited in particular is clearly targeting our players. If it wasn't clear before to everyone on this board that they have less than zero concern for what's in the public interest when determining what to cover, it should be abundantly clear now. And if you have any lingering doubt, just ask a Liverpool supporter about Murdoch's stain of a newspaper, The Sun.

And don't have ANY expectation of a change of stance on this over the long term, regardless of any embargo the club may consider. To be clear, I 100% agree that the club should prohibit access for the likes of Scott Gullan and his pals as a matter of principal. But we're talking about a media behemoth that thinks nothing of steering the election results of multiple countries as they see fit. The lives of our young footballers mean less than nothing to those who truly set the agenda at a paper like the Herald Sun. And they certainly aren't alone. There are "journalists" working directly for the AFL who are answerable to some of this garbage. Employed by the custodians of the game no less.

All that talks for Murdoch and his minions is the bottom line. If it generates clicks and in any way drives up subscription numbers, and they can manage any PR/legal concerns it might throw up, they WILL run with it.

So do your bit... Don't click on their stories. Don't visit their site, don't buy their papers. You won't miss a thing.

It's a problem in all of the MSM. Carolina Wilson has made a living out iof destroying footballers and football administrators lives. And there are many others who don't work for the scummy Murdoch media who are just as bad.